- Camino(s) past & future
Does anyone know the name of the British brother at Sobrado dos Monxes?
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Cum laude, Sabine! I am fascinated by his accent. Where did he learn his Castellano? if it were Scottish English, I would say he learned in Dundee... but then, I am so long out of my own country who am I to say? Anyway, main point: good on you, Sabine, you gave the exact answer to the original question, and bonus was the video.Found him !
I was corrected by the monk who looks after the pilgrims that, although cistercian, this monastary was of the trappist variety ie very strict about keeping the silence. However I think the padres are the very strict ones. If this monk is Fra Lawrence, then maybe he does not have to observe vows of silence.Yes it is amazing. He likes a good chat altho isn't it supposed to be a silent order? ! He told me he used to live in Italy. Abandoned UK in late 70's what a good idea. I loved it there and it was good to go to evening prayers altho the formalities were slightly lost on me
Yeah, it's kinda like substitution theology . . . .I hope this was supposed to be humorous cuz it gave me a chuckle.
There used to be a distinction between what were commonly called the "choir monks" and the "lay brothers" as if they were two separate orders with separate rules of life living alongside each other. However, that was collapsed into a single rule and life under the Vatican II reforms. These reforms also led to the emphasis on a spirit of interior rather than formal exterior silence. Thus, whether priest or brother, they have the same obligation for silence. The real difference in speech v silence is their office or job. Those dealing with the public are necessarily more talkative.. . . I think the padres are the very strict ones. If this monk is Fra Lawrence, then maybe he does not have to observe vows of silence.
Near where I live in northernn Illinois, we have one of the last Poor Clare convents in the USA. The nuns take a vow of silence, new recruits are dwindling, and the aged have their funerals and are buried on the property. A fascinating book was written in 2014 by author and filmmaker, Abbie Reese, "Dedicated to God; an oral history of cloistered nuns". She formed a rapport with the Mother Superior over many months and was then granted permission and allowed to interview the nuns one at a time.Cistercians are a reform of Benedictine spirituality and rule. I am a Benedictine, and can tell you the Rule dictates all those in the monastery keep a “great silence” from the end of nighttime prayers until after breakfast the next morning, speaking only in urgent situations. Speech is limited throughout the rest of the day, but the cellarer (who does the shopping and inventories), the abbot and prior (who are in charge) and the porter - the doorkeeper - have special dispensation to talk as needed. Their jobs are described in great detail by Benedict, the privileges come with extra responsibility, too. So wonderful to spend time in these communities dedicated to prayer.
Slow watching."Into Great Silence," a 2005 documentary, goes deeply into daily life at a Trappist monastery in the Alps. Beautiful.
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