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thermos for winter walkers

2020 Camino Guides

Bill Anthony

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances( feb/march 2018)
Hi, is a thermos a practical option for winter walkers? I have seen threads for brew your own in the mornings ( great idea ) before starting, but none for carrying the extra weight of a thermos for the day. In places that don't have bars ( sunday, mesceta ) is it a good idea?
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking..
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
I have a one quart (1 L) Thermos brand thermos. It is quite heavy. I just did a little experiment filling it with water and weighing it. It weighed a whopping 4 lbs exactly! That is a huge addition to one's backpack. Possibly there are smaller, less insulated lighter weight options, but still either way...it's not for me! :confused: I also am very motivated in the morning to get going to find my "cup o joe" along the way. Nothing like a cafe con leche grande fresh off the press!
 

Kitsambler

Jakobsweg Junkie
Camino(s) past & future
Le Puy 2010-11, Prague 2012, Nuremberg 2013, Einsiedeln 2015, Geneva 2017-19
Another option is to take a small Trangia or Esbit stove, fueled with the solid tablets or with alcohol, along with a small titanium mug/pot. On a really cold and blustery day, a hot cuppa can be a real lifesaver.
 

Stivandrer

Perambulating & Curious. Rep stravaiging offender
Camino(s) past & future
I´ve got Camino plans until 2042,
- or till I fall flat on my face, whichever comes first !!
......one uplifting aspect of the CF that it is the Coffee Route.
Never have I had so many brilliant cups of coffee in my life.. I am prostate operated upon, so I have to get a break every 45 minutes, and hey presto, there´a a café !!
So un the French you really do not need a thermos.

Tea drinkers:
Get the bar to fill one of their larger glasses ( 4cl/ 400ml) with steaming water from the coffee mashine onto a tea bag.
they might argue, that the glass will break, if so make them put a spoon into glass to ward off cracking, but it has never happened yet!
they asked me why I left the teabag in, I responded I liked it strong and black!!
Apparently tea in most of Spain is for little old ladies, and prepared in tiny cups where tea bags merely colour the water, see picture below:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/d2QH8X6vuqnQ0uj53
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking..
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
Another option is to take a small Trangia or Esbit stove, fueled with the solid tablets or with alcohol, along with a small titanium mug/pot. On a really cold and blustery day, a hot cuppa can be a real lifesaver.
True. I've never walked in winter, so it probably is a great idea to take something with to warm the tummy!
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking..
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
For winter walking I'd have thought a hip flask would be more appropriate, on second thoughts walking anytime of year it would be nice.
Oh yes, a flask of "hard stuff" would really warm the tummy! :D
 

FLEUR

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2012 - 2016
Voie de Paris / Tours Aulnay to Saintes 2017
Camino del Baztan 2018
In the Summer a young Frenchman and I were the only two at the 6 person gite/ auberge in Aulnay. He was seriously injured and sadly wasn't able to continue walking next day. Despite being in pain he was friendly and offered me tea from his thermos flask. In the heat if Summer he carried a flask! I don't like tea, I nearly always choose coffee but I hadn't the heart to refuse.
 

Jeff Crawley

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
but will I be fit enough for 2020?
Most thermoses (that looks odd doesn't it?) won't stay hot for long.

A Zojirushi travel mug https://www.amazon.co.uk/ZOJIRUSHI-Stainless-steel-480ml-Cocoa/dp/B00B1KVCEQ
if tempered (flushed with hot water first) will genuinely keep coffee hot for 8+hours. The first time I used mine I took a sip after 3 hours and burned my tongue!

A bit pricey but you can by a clone that is just as good on eBay https://tinyurl.com/yas29kjf for 1/5 of the price.
The 480ml version weights 290gms the 350 weighs 260gms empty and they don't leak (somebody tested a full one in a tumble dryer!)
 

Carlos Santiago

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
2018
I got a 500 ml. "Thermos - Ultra Insulation" in Korea last December (300 grams - empty). The hot water I put in was piping hot (for instant coffee or tea bag) after 8 hours outside; and it was still warm (say 25-30°C) 3 days later. It was exposed to mixed Temperatures of -1°C to 4°C outside and 19°C in the house.
As @Jeff Crawley up there said, flush it first with hot water and it is just perfect for instant hot water daily. The hot water can substitute for 500 ml. of the cold water one carries during the walk.
 
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jozero

Been there, going again...
Camino(s) past & future
CF x 3
Since the Camino is mostly a trail from village to village, I’m not sure I’d be willing to carry the extra weight for those rare days when you have to walk 2-3 hours betweeen bars and cafe con leches. Interestingly, I found that I converted from the conventional 3 meals a day routine with breakfast/coffee upon rising to a person who could happily (odd for no caffeine) get out of be, pack and then walk for a couple/few hours before having my first coffee or food. In the end, however, you choose what makes you comfortable and happy and go with it. If you find you don’t want the weight later on, there are nice donativo boxes in most Albergues :D
 

Lucaya

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
walk the Camino(2020)
Hi, is a thermos a practical option for winter walkers? I have seen threads for brew your own in the mornings ( great idea ) before starting, but none for carrying the extra weight of a thermos for the day. In places that don't have bars ( sunday, mesceta ) is it a good idea?
I think this is absolutely necessary. Besides wearing thick enough clothes, a thermos is one of my essential winter hiking items. The yeti and hydro flask thermos are two of my favorite brands. Hiking in winter and riding in summer, I will bring a thermos.
 

SYates

Camino Fossil AD 1999, now living in Santiago de C
Camino(s) past & future
First: Camino Francés 1999
...
Last: Santiago - Muxia 2019

Now: http://egeria.house/
I have done a few winter caminos and never took, nor missed a thermos.
BC SY
 

Jeff Crawley

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
but will I be fit enough for 2020?
I have done a few winter caminos and never took, nor missed a thermos.
BC SY
Oh I don't know. a 64oz (1.8litre) HydroFlask could come in handy. Fill it full of boiling water in the morning and, at the end of your day's hike connect a shower rose to it and voila! instant hot shower! 🚿
(What can I say? It's a sunny day for once and I'm feeling mischievous)
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking..
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
Oh I don't know. a 64oz (1.8litre) HydroFlask could come in handy. Fill it full of boiling water in the morning and, at the end of your day's hike connect a shower rose to it and voila! instant hot shower! 🚿
(What can I say? It's a sunny day for once and I'm feeling mischievous)
Jeff, you are michevious on cloudy, rainy days too...or we'd only hear from you a few times a year. You do live in England, don't you? 😂
 

chinacat

Veteran Member
Great idea!

It’s not a new one!


- in a wide mouthed thermos, mind !

It does (did use to?) work in an old fashioned glass-lined one with a standard mouth/neck.
You just need to get the ratio of oats to water right ....
NB I’m assuming you have a lightweight mug or bowl with you (on the thermos?) .... and a spoon (spork?)

I fondly remember my first stainless steel-lined thermos 😄
 
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Camino(s) past & future
2 Camino Frances, next: April 2020 Primitivo
You can always put oats and boiling water in a thermos at night, to give you warm porridge in the morning .... before you brew the coffee 😉
Now, that's an idea! Great 😃👍
I'm planning to have a little thermos on Ingles in April, specially for the days when there are longer paths between services - but this was a good idea too!
 

Jeff Crawley

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
but will I be fit enough for 2020?
It’s not a new one!





It does (did use to?) work in an old fashioned glass-lined one with a standard mouth/neck.
You just need to get the ratio of oats to water right ....
NB I’m assuming you have a lightweight mug or bowl with you (on the thermos?) .... and a spoon (spork?)

I fondly remember my first stainless steel-lined thermos 😄
I cup oatmeal, 2 cups milk, 1/2 cup water, hefty pinch of salt, sugar/honey to taste.
Made last thing at night it's rendered down to baby food by breakfast time.
 

chinacat

Veteran Member
I cup oatmeal, 2 cups milk, 1/2 cup water, hefty pinch of salt, sugar/honey to taste.
Made last thing at night it's rendered down to baby food by breakfast time.

Milk??!

I don’t want to have to wash milk fat out of my thermos!
A good rinse, even with cold water, is sufficient, if you just use water ... 😉
 

Jeff Crawley

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
but will I be fit enough for 2020?
You can always put oats and boiling water in a thermos at night, to give you warm porridge in the morning .... before you brew the coffee 😉
Or, if you have friends along . . .

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Jeff Crawley

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Contemplating yet another "final" Camino
but will I be fit enough for 2020?
Milk??!

I don’t want to have to wash milk fat out of my thermos!
A good rinse, even with cold water, is sufficient, if you just use water ... 😉
The alternative (essentially just flour and water) is what I use to glue leather spines onto my bookbinding projects:

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works a treat!
 

malingerer

Active Member
I have a one quart (1 L) Thermos brand thermos. It is quite heavy. I just did a little experiment filling it with water and weighing it. It weighed a whopping 4 lbs exactly! That is a huge addition to one's backpack. Possibly there are smaller, less insulated lighter weight options, but still either way...it's not for me! :confused: I also am very motivated in the morning to get going to find my "cup o joe" along the way. Nothing like a cafe con leche grande fresh off the press!
I use a small 3 cup thermos which even when full I never notice the weight. As for café con leche may it and its inventor be forever consigned to the very darkest realm of this forum,! I have even carried a tiny stove so that I can make proper coffee and not be tied to establishments dishing out their bulk buy rubbish. Tis enuff to make an elder weep so I go now to put on the stove top!!

Yours aye,

the Malingerer.

:)
 

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