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Got the Oxford Astra Z a couple of weeks ago, absolutely no problems. Waiting for the huge drive to get the middle aged groups and second doses started soon. According to various news sources vaccine output from the manufacturers is due to ramp up considerably throughout all facilities next week as they now have the facilties to test the much higher number of batches before release to the public.They have also solved the shortage of syringes, so, given the fact that no one expected to need the hundreds of millions of syringes and needles and all the other stuff needed to deliver individual doses , prior to the pandemic, it can be understood that there are manufacturing bottlenecks at times. I was kinda hoping they'd find a way to give us the vaccine on a sugar cube like the polio one when I was a kid.😁
 
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I was kinda hoping they'd find a way to give us the vaccine on a sugar cube like the polio one when I was a kid.😁
That's a ways off. Vaxart just did a Phase One trial of an oral COVID-19 vaccine:

But consider that the first polio vaccine was administered by injection from the mid 1950s and the oral vaccination wasn't available until the '60s ... so things are actually moving very fast.
 
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That's a ways off. Vaxart just did a Phase One trial of an oral COVID-19 vaccine:

But consider that the first polio vaccine was administered by injection from the mid 1950s and the oral vaccination wasn't available until the '60s ... so things are actually moving very fast
Wow, Raggy, thanks for this. It is indeed an amazingly quick development. I had stated that as a humerous aside not realizing they were in fact working on it.
 

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When 12-13 Celsius is chilly, you know you live a pampered life.

That restaurant looks very good. I was looking at it on google maps and see that I have been to two others on the same street — Dezaseis and San Clodio (where we went once when Dezaseis was full, but I liked Dezaseis better!). Looks like a good street to go when hunger strikes — next time I’m in Santiago.........
 
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Like the look of San Pedro for food. And I'm feeling hopeful that I will get the chance to try it. I always have trouble orienting myself from the maps of Santiago - so will have to work out which way to walk away from the Cathedral to get there.
 

lt56ny

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Excited and hopeful to get back on my Camino soon. Can’t wait!
Got my Pfizer shot this morning, so far no adverse reaction...another jab in 4 weeks time, then the party can start 😎


If you are also getting the Pfizer vaccine like Olimpia did good luck to you. It was just reported this morning that it looks like the Pfizer vaccine is very effective against the English strain and most likely will do a good job against the South African virus.
I had both my Pfizer vaccines. In the United States it is administered 3 weeks apart. I can tell you both that as you probably know it is the second vaccine where you may get a reaction to the vaccine. I know quite a few people that have had both Pfizer and Moderna and all but one had a reaction to the second vaccine. They ranged from mild to pretty strong for about a day. I think I had the strongest reaction of my friends and family. I was dizzy almost immediately and then suffered from fatigue for about a week. But as I have read and was told by 3 different physician friends of mine, one who is an immunologist, that having a very strong reaction is actually a pretty good thing that means my body is reacting strongly and I should have excellent viral protection. But I did feel pretty lousy.
 

lt56ny

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That's a ways off. Vaxart just did a Phase One trial of an oral COVID-19 vaccine:

But consider that the first polio vaccine was administered by injection from the mid 1950s and the oral vaccination wasn't available until the '60s ... so things are actually moving very fast.
I remember as a kid growing up in New York City we got the polio sugar cubes in school. It was a very different time. I don't think there were any anti-vaxxers in those days.
 
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I remember as a kid growing up in New York City we got the polio sugar cubes in school. It was a very different time. I don't think there were any anti-vaxxers in those days.
A young girl in our village had polio which paralysed her. She lived in an Iron lung until her untimely death. Seeing that as a child (families took it in turns to visit her and read to her in hospital) and now knowing that polio has been almost eradicated gives me huge belief in vaccines.
 

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A young girl in our village had polio which paralysed her. She lived in an Iron lung until her untimely death. Seeing that as a child (families took it in turns to visit her and read to her in hospital) and now knowing that polio has been almost eradicated gives me huge belief in vaccines.
Unfortunately it is having a comeback. Here is a news article from National Public Radio in the United States regarding Polio.
 
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Unfortunately it is having a comeback. Here is a news article from National Public Radio in the United States regarding Polio.
That is a terrible indictment of the results of war and poverty during a time of pandemics. If those children had clean water and decent sewerage the outbreaks would not have occurred.
So sad.
 
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If you are also getting the Pfizer vaccine like Olimpia did good luck to you. It was just reported this morning that it looks like the Pfizer vaccine is very effective against the English strain and most likely will do a good job against the South African virus.
I had both my Pfizer vaccines. In the United States it is administered 3 weeks apart. I can tell you both that as you probably know it is the second vaccine where you may get a reaction to the vaccine. I know quite a few people that have had both Pfizer and Moderna and all but one had a reaction to the second vaccine. They ranged from mild to pretty strong for about a day. I think I had the strongest reaction of my friends and family. I was dizzy almost immediately and then suffered from fatigue for about a week. But as I have read and was told by 3 different physician friends of mine, one who is an immunologist, that having a very strong reaction is actually a pretty good thing that means my body is reacting strongly and I should have excellent viral protection. But I did feel pretty lousy.
In my country, only Pfizer-BioNTech (Comirnaty) and Moderna vaccines are certified and available. These are free for the entire population, and between the two, no choice is given; you get what you get. In the 3 days since the jab, no reaction, no pain.
Maybe it's because I am in chemotherapy...hahaha
 

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One way or another, there will be various kinds of complications, perhaps even mortality, but the vaccine will be given further, since the benefits are much greater!
 
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One way or another, there will be various kinds of complications, perhaps even mortality, but the vaccine will be given further, since the benefits are much greater.
The Swiss government purchased millions of AstraZeneca doses in spite that the vaccine is not as yet approved by the Swiss health authority.
Meanwhile, they apparently try to find a buyer for the entire...good luck.
 

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