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Train Derailment at Santiago

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It's very serious.

From Wikepedia...

The Santiago de Compostela train accident occured on 24 July 2013 at about 20:45 local time (18:45 UTC) in Santiago de Compostela, Spain when a train from the line Madrid - Ferrol derailed. At least 12 people were killed.[1]

I have always enjoyed the rail service in Spain, and in Galicia particularly, and found the staff helpful and very tolerant of this pilgrims poor Spanish.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Edit - 21.56
Now reported as worst train accident in Spain in 40 years. A terribly poignant St James Day tomorrow.
 
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Edit - removed link to El Pais .SJ>

A Alvia train derailed just at the entrance to the station of Santiago de Compostela. This is the line linking Madrid and Ferrol and at least ten bodies are scattered around the track covered with blankets. All remain overturned train cars at the height of the viaduct Angrois AP-9 and fire emergency services and move to the crash site at the entrance to the capital of Galicia from the south. The penultimate car is wrecked. Two train passengers injured, one with a collar and the other uninjured, relate that felt like the train took the curve, the next thing I remember is that they were on the floor "surrounded by dead". Witnesses described horrific scenes and fear that the number of people killed may rise. The wounded are dozens.

The event occurs at the beginning of the bridge Galicia Day and night where James lives his big party acts that have already been suspended. The train, which traveled about 240 people, has derailed on a sharp curve. The machine is blazing back and another flew over an embankment to five meters high and 15 away from the track.

"There are many people dead here, my god!" Cry just a neighbor in the area through the Radio Galega. The bodies and state security forces are beginning to organize to assist victims and investigate what caused the derailment of the train Alvia covering the route between Madrid and Ferrol. The locals have told Europa Press that they heard an explosion about 2040 hours. The derailment occurred at kilometer 84.3 on the route of the AVE Ourense-Santiago. The engine of one of the machines, one mole immense, was thrown by the impact. Firemen and policemen are currently attempting to rescue people who are in the interior of the carriages affected, which could be around 13.

Even the scene where you can see a column of smoke intense, are shifting the Government Delegate, Samuel Juarez, and the deputy of the Government in La Coruna, Jorge Atan. Just come to the area the Regional Minister for the Environment, Land and Infraestruturas, Agustin Hernandez, and has come also the mayor of the capital of Galicia, Angel Currás.
 

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Pilgrims in Santiago...please go to the Hospital Clinico and offer to donate blood as it is URGENTLY needed. There are at the time of writing at least 70 seriously injured. There are also 30 dead. Your donation might help that terrible number from being more.
 
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I have removed the link to El Pais because it carries photographs which I consider intrusive and disrespectful.

There is an urgent appeal for blood donors.
 
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#9
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I am in Santiago and headed to the Cathedral at 9:00 PM to view this evening's festivities and light show only to be turned around-- they have cancelled the St. James festival due to the tragic train crash. There is an uncertain energy in the city as pilgrims and and locals try and grasp the tragedy. Local news, as well as BBC are reporting 35 casualties. I'm deeply saddened by the news and have begun to feel the local devastation.
 
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Tortuga9
Thank you for that update - it is going to be a very different St James Day tomorrow. Tuesday saw 1200+ Compostelas given by the Pilgrims Office, I imagine as many today. I'm sure compassion will fill the Praza Obradorio
 
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the latest unofficial death toll given on Voz de Galicia is at least 40 with at least 50 injured. Still provisional, as at midnight local time rescue workers have still not gained access to all the carriages
 

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stevenjarvis said:
BBC news reports a train derailment near SdC. I wish all well.
Prayers of mercy for those traveling on the train and those in the surrounding areas.
Amen.
 

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Awful news...my thoughts and prayers are with the injured, families of the dead and the emergency services personnel.
Sending love & light to Santaigo
 

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What a tragedy. Prayers go out to all the families and loved ones waiting at home, wondering. May the Lord comfort all involved; the injured, emergency crews, clean-up crews, etc… How sad, how very sad.

All who lost life today, may you Rest In Peace.
 

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May they rest in peace and God protect the injured.
 
#17
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Camino a Santiago‏@caminoasantiago12m
Vía @el_pais Las autoridades sanitarias reclaman donantes de tipo 0- y A- que lo acrediten con un carné en Santiago, Vigo y A Coruña.
13 min ago, over 50 dead now, very grave, so tragic esp before the feast day.
 
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Latest from Norw. papers: "At least 57 dead, 70 wounded and 20 seriously wounded".

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#19
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Such very sad news! My thoughts are with all the bereaved, all those that are suffering with injuries and all of those people who have been a part of this tragedy. May God bless and strengthen them all.
 
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Blood Donation priority O- as Ivar posted earlier and A- , hundreds of people queing to donate -

from Twitter Policía Nacional ‏@policia 2h

POR FAVOR, PRIORIDAD DONACIÓN 0- y A- (CARNET DONANTE) RT @18d_cano: Cola para donar sangre en Hospital d #Santiago pic.twitter.com/kGSQFOIYli
 
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From what I can interpret ,following a massive public reponse to the call for blood donors the authorities are urging those with Donor Cards and blood type O- and A- to donate over the coming days.
People are desperate to help in any way they can. There will be a huge response from pilgrims around the world in the coming hours. I hope those in need will gain strength from that.
 
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RTVE‏@rtve2m
Al menos 60 muertos y más de 125 heridos por el descarrilamiento de un tren en Santiago http://bit.ly/1bOWIXG
If I were in Santiago right now I would be beside myself feeling desperately sad for what has happened. Normally arriving there is a joyous occasion especially for those coming for the feast day. At times like this prayer is very helpful.
 

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#24
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Heartbreaking news. My prayers to the victims and their families, Santiago, and Spain. God bless you in your time of need.
 
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#25
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Devastating news. My prayers and thoughts are with all victims, families, rescue services, medical teams, and all people in Santiago. All pilgrims, past and present, will feel united with the Santiago people.
Sandra
 
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abc.es reporting 65 fatalities now. This has been a tragic event. It is hard to imagine what good can come from this, but already the strength of the human spirit is evident in the reponse by those directly involved in the event, and from others all over the world.
#animogalicia
 
#27
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Prayers are offered for the victims.

Please keep the information going on this thread. There is no (or little) information flowing in the USA on the major news outlets. Please, even is you think it is common knowledge, know that many of us that care have limited information. Please post news, facts and links.

Rest in Peace to the deceased. Prayers for Peace and Healing to the injured. Blessing to the pilgrims in Santiago and enroute.

Peace. (I completed the Camino Frances in June 2013.)
 
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#28
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Shocking, terrible and very sad news. My thoughts are with the victims, their families and the rescue teams in Santiago. Pilgrims, please pray. I cannot imagine what the situation will be like in a city that was preparing festivities, but now has to endure this sad tragedy.

Coldweather, the number of deaths has risen to at least 77. Above a hundred people are (severely) injured.
 
#29
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St James Day. Galicia Day.
Sadly Spanish news confirms more fatalities.
Nuevo balance: 77 muertos

Al menos 77 personas han muerto en el accidente de tren de anoche en Santiago de Compostela, según ha informado un nuevo el Tribunal Superior de Justicia de Galicia.


Prime Minister to visit scene today. Xunta de Galicia meets at 09.30 local.

Hard to imagine people still only learning of this today, but of course many will be, including I imagine, pilgrims arriving .
 

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#30
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I have just heard the terrible news and my heart goes out to those affected. Gitti
 
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From The Times.

At least 77 people were killed and 143 injured - including one Briton - when a high-speed train careered off the rails in Spain last night and burst into flames.
The crash - the country’s worst In 41 years - happened when 13 carriages of the train from Madrid heading for the naval port of El Ferrol, with 218 passengers on board, left the tracks 3km outside Santiago de Compostela, in the northwestern region of Galicia.
Investigators said excess speed was the most probable cause, but stressed that the inquiry was at an early stage. The speed limit on that section of the track is 80kph (50 mph). The train had been travelling so fast that one of its carriages flew over the embankment and landed on a road above.
Witnesses confirmed that it had sped through a bend. “It was going so quickly . . . It seems that on a curve the train started to twist, and the carriages piled up one on top of the other,” Ricardo Montesco, a passenger, told Cadena Ser radio station.
“A lot of people were squashed on the bottom. We tried to squeeze out of the bottom of the carriages to get out and we realised the train was burning. I was in the second carriage and there was fire. I saw corpses.” Abel Rivas, 25, was among the first residents who came out of their homes to try to help the wounded.
“We heard a tremendous noise, enormous, like nothing else. We went down and we saw the train had been completely smashed,” he told Efe news agency. “We saw a huge cloud of smoke and one of the carriages was on fire. We saw injured people trying to get children out.”
Spanish television showed the bodies of some of the dead covered with blankets lying next to the mangled remains of the derailed carriages. There was a dense cloud of smoke above the wreckage.
A spokesman for the regional government’s office described the derailment, which happened at 8.42 pm local time, as an accident, but it will stir memories of the train bombing in Madrid in 2004, by Islamists, that killed 191 people.
The crash came less than two weeks after a French passenger train derailed just south of Paris, killing six people and injuring 30 more.
Alberto Núñez Feijóo, the Galician regional president, described the scene as “Dantesque”. “There are bodies lying on the railway track. There are also people whose lives are hanging in the balance in the operating theatre,” he said. “There is one carriage that has been crushed by another and emergency services have not been able to access it yet.”
Xaime López, a journalist for Cadena Ser radio, was clearly shaken when relating the tragedy to listeners. “Passengers said they were piled on top of each other inside the carriages. The road is full of bodies, full of bodies. It is really shocking.”
As rescue services worked to free passengers who were still trapped in the wreckage, the University Hospital in Santiago de Compostela issued an urgent appeal for blood donors to come forward because its stocks were low.
Mariano Rajoy, the Spanish Prime Minister, who was born in Santiago de Compostela, tweeted: “I want to express my affection and solidarity with the victims of the terrible train accident in Santiago.” He is due to visit the site this morning.
The city, which is the site of an annual pilgrimage to the tomb of St James by Catholics from across the world, was about to celebrate its summer festival. City authorities cancelled the festival, which was due to start today on St James’s Day, as a mark of respect to the victims.
This was the first serious accident to hit the AVE high-speed train service, which has revolutionised travel across Spain by offering cheap tickets for fast journeys across the country.
The AVE network was the pride of the previous Socialist Government which ploughed billions of euros into it during a decade-long building boom.
It is likely to be sold off by the present centre-right Government to help pay off debts accrued by loss-making regional lines.Yesterday’s crash was one of the worst rail disasters in modern Spanish history. In 1972, 77 people were killed in a derailment in Andalusia in the south and seven years ago, a metro train veered off the tracks in Valencia, killing 43.
The worst of all time for Spain is thought to be the Torre del Bierzo rail disaster which happened in January 1944 after three trains collided inside a tunnel. Officially 78 died in the crash however more recent studies believe the death toll may have been as many as 500 people.
 
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In an attempt do create something positive from this sadness, I looking for the details of any fundraising on behalf of those affected by this incident, and would welcome any information. It is very early in the process, but many will have long term needs and I wonder how "we" pilgrims, here on the Forum and beyond, might help...
 

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Since today is a holiday in Galicia the banks are closed although there may very well be something organised at the national level. I'll check for you all tomorrow.
In the meantime...
 

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To everyone from countries who censor their news, especially the UK, I feel it is important to mention that the Spanish (and other European) news websites covering this story carry many shocking, disturbing photos of the aftermath of this terrible event. I believe it is important to always have the full story but please be mindful of this when trying to find news online.

Buen Camino everyone.
 
#37
7 days of mourning declared by both Xunta and Santiago council.

Death toll now up to 78 with a couple of dozen more described as critically injured.

Driver has admitted train was travelling at twice the speed limit for those bends, though no word yet on why.
 
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#38
I share the shock and horror felt throughout Spain by her countrymen
and worldwide by all pilgrims upon learning of last night's horrific
crash in Santiago.

May the dead be at peace and the living find strength.

Margaret Meredith
 
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#40
We were heartbroken to learn of this news yesterday. Our deepest sympathies to all those involved in this horrible tragedy. May everyone get through this as best they can, and may peace eventually find its way into everyone's hearts and souls.
 

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#42
Terrible, terrible news. Many of us have so much affection for the city and region. Thoughts and prayers for all those affected.
 

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#44
A terrible, horrifying tragedy. We're still trying to process the awful numbers of people killed and injured. Our thoughts are with our beloved Santiago and Galicia and the families and friends of those injured and killed.
lynne
 

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#48
I heard the news late last night before going to bed. I am still in shock. I cannot imagine the grief in Santiago at the moment, but the reports of the extraordinary generosity and heroism of the volunteers and residents of Santiago in responding to the tragedy that are emerging in the news are tremendously heartening. It is surely a miracle of St. James.

As a friend of mine posted on Facebook in response to news of the tragedy, “May St. James greet (those who have died) at the gates of Heaven, where they can embrace him in person, rather than just his bust in the cathedral.”

Réquiem ætérnam dona eis Dómine; et lux perpétua lúceat eis. Requiéscant in pace.

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc, et in hora mortis nostrae.

Sancti Iacobi apostoli, ora pro nobis.
 
#49
Navarricano - Thank you for that. I find the extraordinary human compassion on display is far more nourishing than the rush to judgement in the haste to find a scapegoat. It is regrettable that the interconnected digital world means trial by media.
Strength for the living, whoever they maybe.
 

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#50
Santiago is very somber and quiet (even the bagpipe has been silenced) it is a city in shock. Many Pilgrims had timed their way to end with celebrations on St James day, they are confused, they are more reserved on their arrival, it is difficult to know how to celebrate the journey of their lives but still remain respectful of the tragedy that has occurred .
 

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#51
my thoughts are with those facing loss.

:(
 

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#52
I'm planning to start my camino on Monday from Leon. Will I be affected by any of this, particularly the 7 days of mourning? Should I postpone my trip? I'm coming from the US. Thanks!

Prayers to all that are affected by this tragedy.
 

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#53
Lovekait said:
I'm planning to start my camino on Monday from Leon. Will I be affected by any of this, particularly the 7 days of mourning? Should I postpone my trip? I'm coming from the US. Thanks!

Prayers to all that are affected by this tragedy.
You are fine. Pilgrims are not affected directly... the mood in Santiago is a bit low at the moment, but life will go on and pilgrims will keep arriving.

Buen Camino!
Ivar
 

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#54
Such a sad day. Our prayers for all involved, and for all those seeking now to help - including the rescue services and medical teams.
 
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#55
I just saw this tragic news on TV here in North Carolina. I am in shock! I sit here with my heart in my throat! Bless all involved...my heart weeps for all...Please let me know how I can help from here. I begin my walk sometime around the 9th of Sept so please let me know if I can help once I begin my journey...
Bringing Peace and blessed thoughts to you all... :cry:
 

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#57
I have posted this on other vacation forums but it maybe of help to those of you who still need to use the train to get either to or from Galicia.
Please read the RENFE website for current updates.
http://www.renfe.com/empresa/comunicaci ... ncias.html
The notices published here will be more up to date that I will be able to manage.
So far the trains have been rerouted and this can be found in the notices
"PLAN ALTERNATIVO DE TRANSPORTE POR INTERCEPTACION DE VIA ENTRE ORENSE Y SANTIAGO POR ACCIDENTE DE ALVIA 151 MADRID-FERROL"
and
"AVE - LARGA DISTANCIA Renfe ha establecido un Plan Alternativo de Transporte para familiares para viajar desde Madrid a Galicia "
I think the timetable situation will be fluid.
My advise is that if you are easily shocked please do not read any Spanish press. It is very normal here to show what some may call graphic or intrusive details in reports and photos.
I would like to also pass on my thanks to the heroes of this situation: The persons who live near to the accident, who helped rescue passengers, and laid out bedding and gave food and shelter to everyone. The firemen from neighbouring A Coruña who broke their strike and came to a neighbouring city; to all of the emergency services who have had to deal with, what I can only image were, scenes of devastation.
Thankfully the train services here in Spain are safe I hope they remain that way.
 
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stevenjarvis said:
In an attempt do create something positive from this sadness, I looking for the details of any fundraising on behalf of those affected by this incident, and would welcome any information. It is very early in the process, but many will have long term needs and I wonder how "we" pilgrims, here on the Forum and beyond, might help...
I support Steven's proposal. Any Australian pilgrims please contact your local Camino coordinators, not sure how we can do anything practical. I will be at the Sydney meeting first Saturday in August. (Have offered silent prayers).
I was in Spain in May and actually travelled on this train (I think its the one that comes from Madrid and arrives in SDC around 9.00 pm).
Not really something Spanish economy needs at this time. :cry:
 
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#59
I am shocked and saddened to hear this horrible news.
I just found out 5 minutes ago and I'm so sorry.
My thoughts and prayers are with those who were affected in any way.
So sad...
 

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#60
We share the shock and horror of this horrifying tragedy. Our thoughts are with everyone in Santiago in this bleak time.
Ian and Carole
 
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#61
mspath said:
I share the shock and horror felt throughout Spain by her countrymen
and worldwide by all pilgrims upon learning of last night's horrific
crash in Santiago.

May the dead be at peace and the living find strength.

Margaret Meredith
Amen.
 
#63
ivar said:
Lovekait said:
I'm planning to start my camino on Monday from Leon. Will I be affected by any of this, particularly the 7 days of mourning? Should I postpone my trip? I'm coming from the US. Thanks!

Prayers to all that are affected by this tragedy.
You are fine. Pilgrims are not affected directly... the mood in Santiago is a bit low at the moment, but life will go on and pilgrims will keep arriving.
there may be some interruptions to normal life in the next few days: for example, the metro in Barcelona stopped for 5 minutes this morning as a mark of respect/solidarity. But it's more likely to affect fiestas and other events, which may well be cancelled or postponed.
 
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#65
My prayers are for the victims and their families. And my prayers are for the pilgrims in the city of Santiago. It is a holy place. I have been in shock ever since hearing the news yesterday morning (25 July). God be with everyone in Santiago.

Ann
 
#66
stevenjarvis said:
As St James Day passes , so the number of fatalities increases to eighty, according to http://www.lavozdegalicia.es
now back down to 78. It seems that some of the bodies are in such a bad state they're having to use DNA to identify them and "some human remains which were originally thought to be from different bodies are now known to be from one".

According to the BBC, one of the dead was an American.
 

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#67
Peter Robins said:
Ribeirasacra said:
I have posted this on other vacation forums but it maybe of help to those of you who still need to use the train to get either to or from Galicia.
the line has now been reopened, and services started again this morning, though it will take a while before it's completely back to normal
Photo http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/album/gali ... 937809.htm
Yes the link I gave from the RENFE update has also been updated.
 

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#68
Thoughts and prayers from Ireland for all those killed and injured in this terrible crash. Our heartfelt sympathy goes out to all their families.
 

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#69
Santiago was the place for many joyful reunions for me. My heart goes out to all those who will not be reuniting with their loved ones again.
 

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#70
Ana-Maria Cordoba was traveling from Northern Virginia to Spain with her husband and daughter to meet up with her son Santiago, who had just completed a pilgrimage to a renowned holy site. The plan was for the family to celebrate the Feast of St. James.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/loc ... story.html
 

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#72
Thanks Peter. The CSJ of SA has been trying to find out if there were any South African's on the train but so far it seems not.
 

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#73
Peter Robins said:
http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/santiago/2013/07/26/policia-cientifica-rebaja-78-numero-muertos-accidente-tren-santiago/0003_2013071374830061616174.htm
gives more info on the nationality of the casualties. And apparently there are further Americans still in hospital plus at least one from GB

Provisional list of dead and injured http://www.elcorreogallego.es/adjuntos/ ... idente.pdf
Thanks for this info, Peter. The El Correo Gallego link didn't work for me, but it may have been similar to this one from La Voz? It's a list of passengers who have died as well as those who are still in the hospital here: http://media.lavozdegalicia.es//default ... inder1.pdf

For those who died, it lists out nationalities and dates of birth.

May the Lord heal all those who are still in critical condition and comfort those who lost friends and family.
 
#75
sillydoll said:
Thanks Peter. The CSJ of SA has been trying to find out if there were any South African's on the train but so far it seems not.
no, and that's not likely to change. One of the advantages of modern trains is that people reserve seats, so you know who is on board.

The latest from the autopsies is that 75 of the bodies have been released to the families, but they still have problems with a further 3. Definitive identification of these could take days or even weeks.

The first funerals were held yesterday, and there is a funeral in the cathedral on Monday evening, led by the archbishop http://www.widgetserver.com/syndication ... dente.html
Not sure if this is a requiem mass or what.

mp3 of the archbishop's homily at the St James Day mass on the archdiocese site http://www.archicompostela.org/web/web2011/index.html
 
#77
Peter Robins said:
Peter Robins said:
and the no of severely injured has gone up too: 95 still in hospital, of which 36 critical
now down to 83, of whom 32 critical, of whom 3 children. Those with less serious injuries will gradually be moved to hospitals nearer their homes
critical now down to 27, several having been moved out of intensive care. Quite a few of the others have been discharged from hospital, including the driver, who is now in police custody.
 

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For those who have not found it yet:- there is a moving post by Johnnie on his blog, and on the PGS forum a reflection by SisterSimon.
 
#79
Peter Robins said:
http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/santiago/2013/07/26/policia-cientifica-rebaja-78-numero-muertos-accidente-tren-santiago/0003_2013071374830061616174.htm
gives more info on the nationality of the casualties. And apparently there are further Americans still in hospital plus at least one from GB

Provisional list of dead and injured http://www.elcorreogallego.es/adjuntos/ ... idente.pdf
more on the injured Briton - the list has his name wrong - at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23479394
 
#81
Peter Robins said:
there is a funeral in the cathedral on Monday evening, led by the archbishop
it's been announced that this official funeral will be attended by Prince Felipe and his wife, the infanta Elena, PM Mariano Rajoy (born in Santiago and a graduate of the university), and the Xunta president Alberto Núñez Feijoo. I would imagine the cathedral will be packed.

[later edit: this is an 'official funeral' not a 'state funeral', which is reserved for leading figures of state]
 
#87
My sympathies to all affected by this terrible event. At such times we think of the families of those in the crash and offer prayers for them and the theirs. But also we must think of all the others affected, especially those emergency and medical people involved. Yes the crash has affected many, in Santiago and elsewhere, so we need to think of those too. I feel sorry for all pilgrims arriving at this time as their joy at arriving is marred in such a way. My thanks go to all in the Pilgrims Office who must be having a very difficult time themselves but still continue to help the Pilgrims.
Bless all who have and are helping others at this time.
 

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Tracey started a thread about 2 minutes silence at the time of the formal funeral tonight (Mon 29th) at 19.00 (Spanish time) which many of us will be observing. I have also posted a link there to the Spanish site which will be relaying the service live or by 'catch-up' - for those who wish to share in this.
 
#89
Tia Valeria said:
Tracey started a thread about 2 minutes silence at the time of the formal funeral tonight (Mon 29th) at 19.00 (Spanish time) which many of us will be observing. I have also posted a link there to the Spanish site which will be relaying the service live or by 'catch-up' - for those who wish to share in this.
there's also an invitation to light a candle at 19.00 as a symbol not only of solidarity but also to signify that there is light at the end of the tunnel http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/ga ... 248430.htm
 

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Thank you for that Peter. We lit our candle and put it in the window while we watched the service. It is now on rtve.es, currently as headline news.
 
#91
Ivar,

Is there any way that this forum could start a donation for the victims of the train crash, many of those still alive are suffering in many ways.

Joe
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#92
Tia Valeria said:
Thank you for that Peter. We lit our candle and put it in the window while we watched the service. It is now on rtve.es, currently as headline news.
the BBC have put a brief extract on their site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23486048 though it's been pushed off the front page by other things

Photos on Voz de Galicia from both inside and outside of the cathedral - the service was relayed on a large screen in Quintana to what looks to me like a couple of thousand people
http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/album/sant ... 893131.htm
http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/album/sant ... 789938.htm
plus a video
http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/video/sant ... 844508.htm
 

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#94
JALAN JAUH said:
Ivar,

Is there any way that this forum could start a donation for the victims of the train crash, many of those still alive are suffering in many ways.

Joe
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Hi there,

I am not sure if this has been set up (I have not seen anything in the papers here). We could set up something in the forum, but we need to know where to send the money once we have it collected... and I don't know if they have organized themselves yet to be able to receive. I will keep an eye open for this.

Saludos,
Ivar
 
#96
JALAN JAUH said:
Is there any way that this forum could start a donation for the victims of the train crash, many of those still alive are suffering in many ways.
not sure that money's what's needed at the moment. AFAIA there's not been any call for donations. Renfe is paying compensation/accident insurance to the injured and to the families of the dead http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/ga ... 200585.htm

[sorry, posted before seeing Ivar's response]
 

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