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Travel from SJPDP at end of March

Harry Peach

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Spring 2020
Will someone please explain "the law" referred elsewhere that seems to disallow travel out of SJPDP before April 1st?
 
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CF 2015, CPo 2016, VDLP[Sev-Các] 2017, VDLP[Các-Sal] 2018
I am sure other can explain in greater detail but starting from SJPP is not disallowed but the Napoleon route from there to Ronncesvalles is closed for safety reasons during the winter. There is an alternative route via Valcarlos that is not at quite as high an altitude (though I would imagine care would need to be taken traversing any mountainous areas in poor weather). Hope this helps. There are several threads on this site on this subject if you need more info.
 

SYates

Camino Fossil AD 1999, now living in Santiago de C
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First: Camino Francés 1999
...
Last: Santiago - Muxia 2019

Now: http://egeria.house/
The high road over the Pyrenees is closed in winter, but you are still allowed to walk the valley road via Valcarlos.

BC SY
 

Monasp

I'm a manager of pilgrims office in SJPP
Camino(s) past & future
Camino in 2008.
Will someone please explain "the law" referred elsewhere that seems to disallow travel out of SJPDP before April 1st?
Go to the pilgrims office 39 rue de la citadelle : volunteers will give you all things and explanations you need ( credenciale, documents, forecast....) to start your Camino.
 

Donjek

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2012 SJPdP - Fisterra
Will someone please explain "the law" referred elsewhere that seems to disallow travel out of SJPDP before April 1st?
French and Spanish authorities are understandably fed up with rescuing or recovering dead bodies of ill-prepared pilgrims on the portion of the camino known as Route Napoleon. Reasons given are risk to rescuers and cost. Said authorities have closed that section from end November to start of April annually. Fines are in place and if you do need rescue from the closed area you will get a bill that reflects actual costs.

SO consider route Napoleon closed in winter months and plan accordingly.

Yeah, its the standard 2% of us that have wrecked it for everyone.

If you want to walk from SJPdP to Roncesvalles in winter you are directed to walk the Valcarlos route that roughly follows the highway.
 

Vacajoe

Traded in my work boots for hiking ones
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2019 Biarritz-Pamplona-Lourdes
2018 Aragon/Frances/Finis
2018 Operation Sabre
2018 Marin Ramble
I’m imagining a world in which a law DID exist that prevented ALL travel out of SJPdP until April 1....that would explain the ever increasing pilgrim crowds there!!!!
 

Kevin Malinak

-kevin-
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances, St Jean PdP, March 18 (2018)
Yes as already mentioned, only the higher elevation Napoleon route is restricted.
The Valcarlos route is not.
AND, actually, if I remember correctly, the Valcarlos route is the original route of the first pilgrims!!!
 

mspath

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Camino(s) past & future
Frances, autumn/winter; 2004, 2005-2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015
Don't know if they were attempting the Camino, but.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50681489
No the couple were attempting to walk high in the eastern Spanish Pyrenees near Vall de Núria when the victim collapsed due to hypothermia. The rest of this reportage describes a combined rescue and medical miracle.
 
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pjacobi

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2015, St. Jean Pied de Port to Burgos
2016, Burgos to Ponferrada
2017, Ponferrada to Atlantic Ocean
I don't think April 1st is a definite date. There have been years where the Napoleon route has been closed until mid-April due to large amount of snow. It all depends upon the weather.

-Paul
 

SYates

Camino Fossil AD 1999, now living in Santiago de C
Camino(s) past & future
First: Camino Francés 1999
...
Last: Santiago - Muxia 2019

Now: http://egeria.house/
Like @pjacobi said, the 'high route' over the Pyrenees can be closed at any time for safety reasons aka to save the lives of pilgrims, hikers and rescuers alike.
BC SY
 

scruffy1

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Camino(s) past & future
Holy Year from Pamplona 2010, SJPP 2011, Lisbon 2012, Le Puy 2013, Vezelay (partial watch this space!) 2014; 2015 Toulouse-Puenta la Reina (Arles)
I am sure other can explain in greater detail but starting from SJPP is not disallowed but the Napoleon route from there to Ronncesvalles is closed for safety reasons during the winter. There is an alternative route via Valcarlos that is not at quite as high an altitude (though I would imagine care would need to be taken traversing any mountainous areas in poor weather). Hope this helps. There are several threads on this site on this subject if you need more info.
The Valcarlos route is a lower altitude and much can be walked on or next to the road, both will be dangerous options because of the ice or the plowed snow from clearing the road. Why start your Camino on the wrong slippery foot? Consider starting from Roncevalles or Pamplona or waiting until April.
 

pmonts

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Past & Future
Evening,
I started from SJPP last march 2018 and walked the Napoleon route, I was advised it would be dangerous but that I could . I woke the next morning and cracked on a little misty and damp but I was confidant. the weather was fine until I started going over the top. (white out) I am very fortunate I have previously walked the route so understood time distance etc.
I was not prepared for the knee deep and at times waist Hight snow, more shockingly I met an Italian chap in a pair of jeans and trainers my jaw dropped, he told me he was not informed either.
On my arrival at Roncesvalles to say people were shocked I walked the Napoleon was concerning to me as they had all been told to avoid completely. I have only recently joined and had I before my last walked would have avoided the napoleon route at that time of the year at all costs.
 

SYates

Camino Fossil AD 1999, now living in Santiago de C
Camino(s) past & future
First: Camino Francés 1999
...
Last: Santiago - Muxia 2019

Now: http://egeria.house/
Evening,
I started from SJPP last march 2018 and walked the Napoleon route, I was advised it would be dangerous but that I could . I woke the next morning and cracked on a little misty and damp but I was confidant. the weather was fine until I started going over the top. (white out) I am very fortunate I have previously walked the route so understood time distance etc.
I was not prepared for the knee deep and at times waist Hight snow, more shockingly I met an Italian chap in a pair of jeans and trainers my jaw dropped, he told me he was not informed either.
On my arrival at Roncesvalles to say people were shocked I walked the Napoleon was concerning to me as they had all been told to avoid completely. I have only recently joined and had I before my last walked would have avoided the napoleon route at that time of the year at all costs.
Didn't you realize that the Napoleon Route was closed for EVERBODY at those dates?
BC SY
 

pmonts

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Past & Future
Didn't you realize that the Napoleon Route was closed for EVERBODY at those dates?
BC SY
I had no idea it was closed or was I informed when collecting my passport, or was I told at orison when having a coffee break in fact they said I was lucky the weather had cleared from the day before as it was closed then.
 

SYates

Camino Fossil AD 1999, now living in Santiago de C
Camino(s) past & future
First: Camino Francés 1999
...
Last: Santiago - Muxia 2019

Now: http://egeria.house/
I had no idea it was closed or was I informed when collecting my passport, or was I told at orison when having a coffee break in fact they said I was lucky the weather had cleared from the day before as it was closed then.
Very strange as Orisson is also closed in March ...
BC SY
 

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