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Tassie Kaz

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2023?
The ABC, after recently repeating the series 'Pilgrimage: Road to Santiago' & currently re-showing 'Pilgrimage: Road to Rome' (Sun 3.30pm AEDT), will be airing 'Pilgrimage: Road to Istanbul' commencing tomorrow night (Sun 5th Dec) at 9.20pm AEDT on ABC Kids/3/TV Plus.

To my knowledge, this is the first time the latest series has been shown on free-to-air TV in Australia. It follows the same format as the previous productions with 'people in the public eye' (although I don't recognise any of them as usual) spending a mere 15 days on the trail. This is a path I hope to walk myself one day so I'll be watching with more than a casual interest. The previous series have polarized me to some extent but in these times of international travel still being off the agenda for many of us...I'll take it! Enjoy! 🤗
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domigee

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Yeah, I watched it and I didn’t like the programme 🙁 Sadly. But that is just me. In my view, you can’t just walk say 5 km a day and say you walked to Jerusalem (Or Istanbul). It doesn’t do it justice.
it is a very long slog and you cannot cut corners, imo. As you walk, you get stronger. They weren’t given the chance.
i didn’t recognise any of it.
But again, that is just my opinion.
I’ll be interested to hear what you think after watching it.
 

Tassie Kaz

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2023?
Yeah, I watched it and I didn’t like the programme 🙁 Sadly. But that is just me. In my view, you can’t just walk say 5 km a day and say you walked to Jerusalem (Or Istanbul). It doesn’t do it justice.
it is a very long slog and you cannot cut corners, imo. As you walk, you get stronger. They weren’t given the chance.
i didn’t recognise any of it.
But again, that is just my opinion.
I’ll be interested to hear what you think after watching it.
Hmm...your summation is what I feared for this latest 'Pilgrimage Road' offering. As I said, the previous two series polarized me for the very reasons you mention. Of course I have done both the CF & the VF but only have limited knowledge & no practical experience of the Istanbul trail.
See how it goes... 🤔🤞😖 😄
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Tassie Kaz

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2023?
Thank you @Tassie Kaz I understand the attraction particularly in these times when the reality of walking a Camino may seem far away.

It’s interesting …or perhaps not 😎 that, for me, other than snippets I enjoy on this forum, I’m not at all drawn to documentaries about our people’s experiences along The Way. For me it’s such a very personal experience, appreciated in the moment and in retrospect. I don’t think I can reconcile a Camino and a film crew 🙏
I agree to a point @jenny@zen; my initial reaction to the first series was 'is nothing sacred from the clutches of reality TV these days?' 😣 I certainly would not like to encounter a film crew on the side of any path I was on.
However, I am interested in other peoples stories of their experiences on long distance trails. I think this mainly stems from being a solo traveller & solo on the homefront (both by choice); with no one to plan, execute & reflect on a journey with, I seek that common ground, especially the moment where you say "Yes!..that's exactly how I feel or what it was like". Sometimes that connection is found, often it's not, but when it does happen, it is a joy to behold for me.
I do agree with @domigee, the full & true experience only comes with time & effort put in, not from a 'sample, patch job'!
I will try to watch 'Road to Istanbul' with an open mind although I can foresee my eye-rolling & slightly annoyed deep breaths that accompanied the Santiago & Rome versions. But if only one thing resonates with me from my viewing, then it's worth it. Generally I will take the written word over footage any day though.
See what Episode 1 brings us... 🙄 😏
Can I gather you won't be tuning in? 🤭
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TMcA

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It’s interesting …or perhaps not 😎 that, for me, other than snippets I enjoy on this forum, I’m not at all drawn to documentaries about our people’s experiences along The Way. For me it’s such a very personal experience, appreciated in the moment and in retrospect
This has always been my response when I see videos or blogs on this forum.

However, to each his own.
 
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2002, Toulouse/Aragon 2005, Cami S Jaume/Aragon 2007/9, Mont Saint Michel/Norte/Vadiniense 2011, Norte/Primitivo 2013, Norte/Primitivo 2014. Norte 2015, Cami S Jaume/Castellano-Aragonese 2016
Apropos the making of Camino films, I was coming off the Primitivo in (IIRC 2015) with a Californian pilgrim whose name was well-known in Camino circles years ago when we saw an Oprah film crew van parked at the roadside. We recoiled in horror, wondering how many souls would be sent on the pilgrimage through Oprah (answer: who knows? and would it be a bad thing for them?). We then determined that, were we to be interviewed, we would approach the van with the alligator walk (pioneered by the girls of Wesley College, Dublin-- it features one-step, one-step, skip; repeated-- try it when passing young people as it seems to entrance them). We would then tell Oprah's crew that it was a penance set on us by our confessors.

My Californian companion, a specialist in social trends, would then track the spread of the alligator walk, and write a documentary on it. A prixze-winning documentary, to be sure.

Well, the Oprah team never came near us so our great plan never worked.

Hola to my Australian pilgrim friends-- Janet and Chris and cat-loving John & Mary.
 
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SJPdP - SdC 2022
The ABC, after recently repeating the series 'Pilgrimage: Road to Santiago' & currently re-showing 'Pilgrimage: Road to Rome' (Sun 3.30pm AEDT), will be airing 'Pilgrimage: Road to Istanbul' commencing tomorrow night (Sun 5th Dec) at 9.20pm AEDT on ABC Kids/3/TV Plus.

To my knowledge, this is the first time the latest series has been shown on free-to-air TV in Australia. It follows the same format as the previous productions with 'people in the public eye' (although I don't recognise any of them as usual) spending a mere 15 days on the trail. This is a path I hope to walk myself one day so I'll be watching with more than a casual interest. The previous series have polarized me to some extent but in these times of international travel still being off the agenda for many of us...I'll take it! Enjoy! 🤗
👣 🌏
Have 'mud mapped' a tour of Australian WW1 memorial sites from Amiens to Saint Quentin then a section of the Francigena to vauchonvilliers, short detour to Vendeuvre-sur-Barse & train to Lucca via Nice & Genoa and pick up the trail through Tuscany and train to Rome. Maybe 2024 after our 2023 Porto? Thanks ABC and Mike and Allison on the Forum who have recently completed it from Canterbury all the way to Rome.
 

Walton

Active Member
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2016 Sjpp to Sdc. 2018 Lisbon to Sdc to Finisterre. Next up hopefully VDP or Del Norte.
Finally, there is going to be something possibly worth watching on Aussie TV.

Amazing absolutely amazing.

Thanks for the heads up Tazzie Kaz!
 

pelerine

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Norte 10, Primitivo 13, Plata 14+15, Salvador 16, Torres 17, Portugues 18, Mozarabe 19
It’s interesting …or perhaps not 😎 that, for me, other than snippets I enjoy on this forum, I’m not at all drawn to documentaries about our people’s experiences along The Way. For me it’s such a very personal experience, appreciated in the moment and in retrospect. I don’t think I can reconcile a Camino and a film crew 🙏

You might like to watch “I’ll push you”. Despite the presence of a film crew (who were not allowed to intervene to help when problems arose) this film is very moving...
 
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anamcara

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2022 Chemin du Piémont Pyrénéen; Camino Baztan 😎
You might like to watch “I’ll push you”. Despite the presence of a film crew (who were not allowed to intervene to help when problems arose) this film is very moving...
Yes I’ve seen it. It is. For some reason I didn’t think of it in the same category as the other series. It definitely is a moving film 🙏

PS. A good reminder to self, not to generalise. 🤔
 
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Yeah, I watched it and I didn’t like the programme 🙁 Sadly. But that is just me. In my view, you can’t just walk say 5 km a day and say you walked to Jerusalem (Or Istanbul). It doesn’t do it justice.
it is a very long slog and you cannot cut corners, imo. As you walk, you get stronger. They weren’t given the chance.
i didn’t recognise any of it.
But again, that is just my opinion.
I’ll be interested to hear what you think after watching it.
good for planting a seed
 

Glen Moray

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Frances 2012-13; 2013-4;2016-17 SDC-Muxia-Finisterre 2015, 2018 Ferrol-SDC 2018
I have seen this programme in the UK and it is a big improvement on the previous two series. The participants seem to respect each other’s opinions and don’t concentrate on scoring points off each other. It is a trail with a lot of history and an interesting Muslim / Christian / Jewish balance with the Christian / Jewish part at the beginning and the Muslim part stronger as they approach Istanbul
 

Tassie Kaz

Sempre Avanti
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2023?
Finally, there is going to be something possibly worth watching on Aussie TV.

Amazing absolutely amazing.

Thanks for the heads up Tazzie Kaz!
Yep...very slim pickings indeed on the box these days!
My saviour is SBS World Movies...thank goodness for SBS. 🙏
Lets hope we do enjoy the 'Road to Istanbul'. At the very least it should be a reminder that we will, some day, be able to get back out there & do what we love best. 🤗
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Davybhoy

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Thank you @Tassie Kaz I understand the attraction particularly in these times when the reality of walking a Camino may seem far away.

It’s interesting …or perhaps not 😎 that, for me, other than snippets I enjoy on this forum, I’m not at all drawn to documentaries about our people’s experiences along The Way. For me it’s such a very personal experience, appreciated in the moment and in retrospect. I don’t think I can reconcile a Camino and a film crew 🙏
On our Camino in 2019, we were randomly interviewed by a Spanish magazine style TV program called "Buen Camino". It was whilst we were having morning tea at a cafe at a small village near Triacastela. I saw it as a bit of a thrill actually, not an intrusion but then it was only for 10 minutes whilst we had stopped anyway. It went to air a few weeks later and we managed to view it on YouTube.
 

Tassie Kaz

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2023?
My original comment was simply to share an observation that I find I’m not drawn to these type of programs - (albeit that I am drawn to many things Camino related). Perhaps I could have been more specific in referring to those that are a reality TV style ‘documentary’ set up with a group of celebrities of sorts. I was in no way questioning whether these or any other programs are worthwhile, interesting or enjoyable.

It was not intended as a negative comment to the original suggestion from @Tassie Kaz - in fact I started by thanking her and saying that I could appreciate the attraction of the program. So sorry @Tassie Kaz if it came across that way as appears may be the case 🙏
Stress not @jenny@zen..I didn't take any of your comments as negative in any way! In fact as I stated, I relish differing opinions; they help us to look at things from another point of view.
I'm really enjoying the discussions this simple thread to let people know about a TV program, has generated from all respondents. 🙏
Best wishes!
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jl

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Past OR future Camino
Frances('05, '07), Aragonese ('05), del Norte / Primitivo ('09), Via Tolosana (Toulouse '05), Via Podiensis (Le Puy '07), Via Lemovicensis (Troyes '09), VF ('12), Winter Camino ('13/'14) Cammino d'Assisi ('14) Jakobseweg (Leipzig - Paris '15) San Salvador/Norte ('15) Ignaciano ('16) Invierno ('16)
Firstly - greetings Austin. I suspect you are, like me, loitering in the background of the forum these days!

Secondly - @Dennis White if you want to find out the route I took through the Western Front paying attention to the Australian sites PM me. When I did the VF I detoured from Ypres back to the VF.

Lastly - with regard to the first two TV series mentioned earlier by @Tassie Kaz I have had some really interesting comments from people who have never walked, after viewing the two series. Simple things such as " I had no idea northern Spain was so green" "....hilly" etc. I think that for those of us who have walked these paths, and many more, it is easy to be overly critical of such programmes. Of course it is different to each experience we have had, and of course we can be self righteous about walking the "whole way" - WHATEVER that might be, BUT these programmes do give a snapshot of what it can be like for those who have no knowledge or experience for such a journey, and it could well be the trigger to encourage someone to try the experience for themselves.

I too don't recognize the people participating in the various pilgrimages, but I enjoy watching the scenery that is shown and enjoy reminiscing about the places they visit. When talking and teaching about the Camino one of the things I stress is that we all walk (or bike) our own Camino. If we have to catch a bus / train etc, for whatever reason, it shouldn't matter to anyone at all. Those celebrities made their journey following the production requirements, but watching them I felt that they all got something from their journey, and for some it was a tremendous challenge! They walked their own Camino within the paramotors of the show they are participating in.
 

Tassie Kaz

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2023?
...with regard to the first two TV series mentioned earlier by @Tassie Kaz I have had some really interesting comments from people who have never walked, after viewing the two series. Simple things such as " I had no idea northern Spain was so green" "....hilly" etc. I think that for those of us who have walked these paths, and many more, it is easy to be overly critical of such programmes. Of course it is different to each experience we have had, and of course we can be self righteous about walking the "whole way" - WHATEVER that might be, BUT these programmes do give a snapshot of what it can be like for those who have no knowledge or experience for such a journey, and it could well be the trigger to encourage someone to try the experience for themselves.

I too don't recognize the people participating in the various pilgrimages, but I enjoy watching the scenery that is shown and enjoy reminiscing about the places they visit. When talking and teaching about the Camino one of the things I stress is that we all walk (or bike) our own Camino. If we have to catch a bus / train etc, for whatever reason, it shouldn't matter to anyone at all. Those celebrities made their journey following the production requirements, but watching them I felt that they all got something from their journey, and for some it was a tremendous challenge! They walked their own Camino within the paramotors of the show they are participating in.
My Mum, the greatest supporter of my walking exploits but who couldn't imagine doing something like it, even in her younger days, absolutely loved the first two series (she watches each airing) & found them quite emotional as she does with all things Camino or long distance trail related.
As with everything, its subjective & in the eye of the beholder...& we wouldn't want it any other way. 🤗 As long as we feel something rather than nothing...now that would be sad.
I do wonder how the participants in such programs really feel; they would be under some kind pressure, even if it is subtle, to have an experience or reaction...after all, they have been chosen/cast as performers. 🤔
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JennyH94

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CF - sections and whole (2012-2019) and part VF (2017)
Hi Kaz - thanks so very much for the alert on this latest series of Pilgrimage. I loved every single moment of this first episode, as I have done with the Roads to Santiago and to Rome. For me, each series has been exceptional, and I feel so blessed to be able to view the three series.

I feel really emotional about it - these celebrities are embarking on their own pilgrimage just as we have done - they feel the same feelings as we all have had and still do - having that wonderful connection with people we would never meet in our everyday lives is only a part of it - it’s so familiar and what a gift it is.

Camino hugs Kaz -

Jenny

PS - Kaz - I’m just like your Mum as to how I feel about this series!
 
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Tassie Kaz

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2023?
Hi Kaz - thanks so very much for the alert on this latest series of Pilgrimage. I loved every single moment of this first episode, as I have done with the Roads to Santiago and to Rome. For me, each series has been exceptional, and I feel so blessed to be able to view the three series.

I feel really emotional about it - these celebrities are embarking on their own pilgrimage just as we have done - they feel the same feelings as we all have had and still do - having that wonderful connection with people we would never meet in our everyday lives is only a part of it - it’s so familiar and what a gift it is.

Camino hugs Kaz -

Jenny

PS - Kaz - I’m just like your Mum as to how I feel about this series!
Thank you for your lovely & kind words @JennyH94. I'm glad you found my post in time to catch the first episode last night.
I actually recognised one of the participants; the blind man has appeared in several UK docos (usually medical programs) aired here.
I was happy to have one of those 'yes, that's exactly what it's like or how I feel' moments as I mentioned in my post #4. It came when the atheist (can't remember his name) spoke of the simple act of walking; your job for the day is just to get from A to B & by walking, it forces you to be present & how you notice all the little things. When asked by others why I'd do something 'crazy' like walking long distances in foreign lands, my answer is always the same...it makes you be right here, right now.
Another thing I love which I'm sure you & others can relate to is; how naive we are when we set off...all the research & planning & yet we truly have no idea what we're in for...isn't it just the best?! 🤗 The program participants are the same way in all 3 series; they have a notion when they begin, but really no idea & it all unfolds as we & they, move along...wonderful!
I'm waiting to hear back from my Mum about episode 1...but I can say with certainty what she will have thought of it. 🥰
Best wishes to you Jenny...your Camino spirit is alive & well. 🙏
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Tassie Kaz

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2023?
Nice to see your name pop up again @timr 😊 Hope you've been keeping well & your wings are no longer clipped...or at least you can start planning to unclip them!
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timr

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Several and counting...
Nice to see your name pop up again @timr 😊 Hope you've been keeping well & your wings are no longer clipped...or at least you can start planning to unclip them!
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Thanks @Tassie Kaz Pretty clipped still actually! Marooned in Liverpool. My mother's response to all those BBC pilgrim series is identical with your mother's, and she watches them each time they are repeated, which is generally once a year here! (She is 94.) I don't mind them, although didn't feel inclined to watch any of them more than once! I thought the third series was the most 'sensible.' And Istanbul is my next destination, but not the way they went.
I hope you are in a planning stage too?
 

JennyH94

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CF - sections and whole (2012-2019) and part VF (2017)
Thank you for your lovely & kind words @JennyH94. I'm glad you found my post in time to catch the first episode last night.
I actually recognised one of the participants; the blind man has appeared in several UK docos (usually medical programs) aired here.
I was happy to have one of those 'yes, that's exactly what it's like or how I feel' moments as I mentioned in my post #4. It came when the atheist (can't remember his name) spoke of the simple act of walking; your job for the day is just to get from A to B & by walking, it forces you to be present & how you notice all the little things. When asked by others why I'd do something 'crazy' like walking long distances in foreign lands, my answer is always the same...it makes you be right here, right now.
Another thing I love which I'm sure you & others can relate to is; how naive we are when we set off...all the research & planning & yet we truly have no idea what we're in for...isn't it just the best?! 🤗 The program participants are the same way in all 3 series; they have a notion when they begin, but really no idea & it all unfolds as we & they, move along...wonderful!
I'm waiting to hear back from my Mum about episode 1...but I can say with certainty what she will have thought of it. 🥰
Best wishes to you Jenny...your Camino spirit is alive & well. 🙏
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Hi Kaz -

Thanks so much for your kind thoughts - I really appreciate them.

It was Dom Joly who talked about the simple act of walking - his words were so beautiful that he made me cry.

I must say that the actor Lee Ingleby who has narrated all three series has done a wonderful job - he’s really engaged with the series. Even the intro music sets the scene ... it’s so inspiring.

Yes - the excitement that builds as we plan and the not knowing how all will turn out - yes - that feeling is the best!

Let’s know what your Mum thought about the first episode of Series 3.

Camino hugs -

Jenny
 
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Tassie Kaz

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2023?
Thanks @Tassie Kaz Pretty clipped still actually! Marooned in Liverpool. My mother's response to all those BBC pilgrim series is identical with your mother's, and she watches them each time they are repeated, which is generally once a year here! (She is 94.) I don't mind them, although didn't feel inclined to watch any of them more than once! I thought the third series was the most 'sensible.' And Istanbul is my next destination, but not the way they went.
I hope you are in a planning stage too?
How itchy are your feet Tim? 🤭 Throughout the entire pandemic, I have surprised myself by not being restless. Seems I was so successful in shutting down what was the biggest part of my life, nothing is even twitching to start it up again...completely lost all momentum. The possibility of being able to utilize my rapidly dwindling passport validity a whole year before I was expecting to (ie 2022), still didn't have me dusting off my Must Do List! 🤷‍♀️ I'm sure...well, hoping...my old drive will kick in when there's a real prospect of relatively hassle-free travel; most likely 2023 for me. I do wonder if we'll have that same sense of freedom we experienced before the C-word ever again though. 🤔
Like you, I haven't watched any repeats of the 'Road to...' series. However, I have re-watched Simon Reeve's excellent (apart from the segment at the roadhouse...entirely unnecessary IMHO!) series 'Pilgrimage'; completely different format of course but gets to me every time.
Happy researching @timr ...trust you'll keep us posted on your plans & then during the execution. Especially looking forward to your contributions re your own Istanbul journey!
Best wishes.
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Tassie Kaz

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2023?
Hi Kaz -

Thanks so much for your kind thoughts - I really appreciate them.

It was Dom Joly who talked about the simple act of walking - his words were so beautiful that he made me cry.

I must say that the actor Lee Ingleby who has narrated all three series has done a wonderful job - he’s really engaged with the series. Even the intro music sets the scene ... it’s so inspiring.

Yes - the excitement that builds as we plan and the not knowing how all will turn out - yes - that feeling is the best!

Let’s know what your Mum thought about the first episode of Series 3.

Camino hugs -

Jenny
Hi Jenny,
I sent a screenshot of your message to my Mum...she was touched you were interested in what she thinks about the first episode! 🥰
She completely agrees with you about Lee Inglebury as narrator. Being a long time viewer of British TV, she has recognised participants from each series so already felt a connection to them. Mum did say she feels differently about this series because I haven't walked the route..therefore she's not looking at it picturing what I may have experienced.

Best wishes for your future walking plans @JennyH94 ...who knows, maybe our paths will cross in person some day! 🤗
Sempre avanti,
K 👣 🌏
 
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timr

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However, I have re-watched Simon Reeve's excellent (apart from the segment at the roadhouse...entirely unnecessary IMHO!) series 'Pilgrimage'; completely different format of course but gets to me every time.

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I agree, yes, Simon Reeve is a cut above the rest generally! He has done a lot of interesting stuff. Those I would watch again. 🚶‍♂️👣
 

Tassie Kaz

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2023?
I agree, yes, Simon Reeve is a cut above the rest generally! He has done a lot of interesting stuff. Those I would watch again. 🚶‍♂️👣
Simon Reeve is an international living treasure...hasn't done a dud program yet. Always balanced in his approach, doesn't shy away from issues, completely likeable & relatable & not afraid to show the emotional impact his journeys have on him.
Interestingly (to me anyway), I found myself feeling a tad defensive in his 'Australia' program...he obviously touched a nerve which means he was right on the money.
Simon is much admired & respected here & he tops my list of 'If you could meet anyone, who would it be?' 🤗
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JennyH94

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CF - sections and whole (2012-2019) and part VF (2017)
Hi Kaz - I’ve just watched the third and final episode and gosh - what a wonderful series it’s been.

Like Pauline, my heart’s full to bursting - each episode has had so much that deeply resonates and that is so very special.

Thank you, thank you for alerting Aussie Forum members to the series.

Best wishes to you too for your future Camino plans Kaz and I do hope that one day we will catch up 🚶🏽‍♀️🚶🏽‍♀️🌻🌻🍷🍷💕💕

Camino hugs from Sydney -

Jenny xxx
 
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Tassie Kaz

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2023?
Hi Kaz - I’ve just watched the third and final episode and gosh - what a wonderful series it’s been.

Like Pauline, my heart’s full to bursting - each episode has had so much that deeply resonates and that is so very special.

Thank you, thank you for alerting Aussie Forum members to the series.

Best wishes to you too for your future Camino plans Kaz and I do hope that one day we will catch up 🚶🏽‍♀️🚶🏽‍♀️🌻🌻🍷🍷💕💕

Camino hugs from Sydney -

Jenny xxx
Hi Jenny,
Lovely to read your message!
I'm yet to see the final episode...I do night shift in Aged Care so had to tape it (showing my age here... 😆). I hope to watch it in the next day or so & will then respond properly to your post. So glad you enjoyed the series...& your appreciative message has made my day!
Stay tuned... 🤗
K 🌞 xox
 

JennyH94

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CF - sections and whole (2012-2019) and part VF (2017)
Hi Jenny,
Lovely to read your message!
I'm yet to see the final episode...I do night shift in Aged Care so had to tape it (showing my age here... 😆). I hope to watch it in the next day or so & will then respond properly to your post. So glad you enjoyed the series...& your appreciative message has made my day!
Stay tuned... 🤗
K 🌞 xox
Cheers Kaz - you’re going to love the final episode - there are so many special moments. Let’s know what you think once you’ve had a chance to watch it.

I hope your Mum enjoyed the series - I reckon it was the best yet.

Camino hugs -

Jenny xxx
 

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I agree with Jenny. I loved the series, especially the Road to Istanbul. It was so varied but it would be better with a group of likeminded folk, the interaction was great.
 

Tassie Kaz

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Cheers Kaz - you’re going to love the final episode - there are so many special moments. Let’s know what you think once you’ve had a chance to watch it.

I hope your Mum enjoyed the series - I reckon it was the best yet.

Camino hugs -

Jenny xxx
Hi @JennyH94 (& any other passers-by),

Yes, although a tad cynical pre-airing, the 3rd & final episode of 'Pilgrimage: Road to Istanbul' won me over. I found it quite emotional too.
I watched the previous two series, CF & VF, because I had walked both. This one I hadn't, so my interest in it was as a prospective trail. It began burning my toast (as the other two series did) due to the lack of walking (& complaints from participants when actual walking was involved) in a program about walking.
To save my toast from the bin or the birdies, this time I 'let go' of walking being my viewing criteria...& that made all the difference. I really enjoyed it. The show is not about walking, it was never about the walking.
The interactions amongst the group, the camaraderie between them all equally, was obvious & key to the experience had as a participant & to the viewer. I agree Pauline seemed to sum it up most closely to how I would feel.
I liked how Dom-the-Athiest opened up to the Sufi experience; he allowed himself to go with it providing that priceless moment when he realised the camera was on him & he partly 'corrected' his actions. I even warmed to Fatima in that instalment. I didn't dislike her but found her need to verbalise her physical superiority unnecessary despite no ill intent.
For me, this episode also held extra meaning because Istanbul is my favourite city in the world.
All in all, a 👍⭐ from me...high praise indeed for program of this ilk! 😇
Oh..& Mum enjoyed it immensely although she missed the connection to the trail as her daughter hasn't walked it. Knowing through me what it is required for such an undertaking (the full kitty-boodle, not a tiny fraction that is) she did comment how easy they had it. My response to that was; perhaps that's why the participants got so much out of it..they didn't have to bother themselves with the trivialities of logistics! 😆

Jenny, if you ever venture down to Tassie & would like to meet up for a chat (I live in Launceston), please PM me & we'll get something sorted. 🤗
I hope you had a lovely Christmas & I wish you all the very best for 2022.
Happy trails & as always, sempre avanti,
Karen 👱‍♀️
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The ABC, after recently repeating the series 'Pilgrimage: Road to Santiago' & currently re-showing 'Pilgrimage: Road to Rome' (Sun 3.30pm AEDT), will be airing 'Pilgrimage: Road to Istanbul' commencing tomorrow night (Sun 5th Dec) at 9.20pm AEDT on ABC Kids/3/TV Plus.

To my knowledge, this is the first time the latest series has been shown on free-to-air TV in Australia. It follows the same format as the previous productions with 'people in the public eye' (although I don't recognise any of them as usual) spending a mere 15 days on the trail. This is a path I hope to walk myself one day so I'll be watching with more than a casual interest. The previous series have polarized me to some extent but in these times of international travel still being off the agenda for many of us...I'll take it! Enjoy! 🤗
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Just watched all 3 episodes.
Sure it was a TV version of a Pilgrimage.
What can one encapsulate from a 2,000 km walk when you have 7 'celebrities' a film crew and only 2 weeks?

I enjoyed it.

I think in terms of the spiritual aspects of a Pilgrimage it was interesting.

The characters were interesting, bar one.
I suppose 'casting' demands one obnoxious one! :rolleyes:
 

JennyH94

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Thanks so much Karen for your terrific post. Having viewed the series, do you think the Sultan’s Trail is a goer for you, Covid mess notwithstanding?

Thank you for the lovely offer of a catch up in Tassie. We’d have tons to talk about! I haven’t got any plans to head to Tassie at the moment but things can change so don’t be surprised if you see a PM from me!

Camino hugs -

Jenny
 

Tassie Kaz

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Thanks so much Karen for your terrific post. Having viewed the series, do you think the Sultan’s Trail is a goer for you, Covid mess notwithstanding?

Thank you for the lovely offer of a catch up in Tassie. We’d have tons to talk about! I haven’t got any plans to head to Tassie at the moment but things can change so don’t be surprised if you see a PM from me!

Camino hugs -

Jenny
Hmmm...interesting you ask about the Sultans Trail Jenny 🤔 ...I did surmise from the program that as a solo female walker, it doesn't seem to have the minimum level of infrastructure I would be comfortable with; eg they had to camp, accom/food availability, language, etc. What about for you?
For others, this being 'off the beaten path' would be very appealing..as it is to me to a certain extent..but from a safety/security comfort level, personally it's a little too untrodden!
@timr & another member (possibly @domigee?) mentioned an alternative route which would definitely be worth looking into. I certainly like the idea of walking through countries previously uncharted by me & especially having Istanbul as a final destination. One for the 'Would Like to but Probably Won't' List but...never say never! 😆
Happy trails to you Jenny...hope you make it to our fine shores someday. 🤗
K 🌞 xo
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Gerry O

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For those with Foxtel ...on Fox Docos there is currently a series called Europe's Most Beautiful Hiking Trails .....

My wife and I are looking forward to getting fit again and tackling the first half of the Camino ....we only did the section from Carrion de los Condes onwards due to time constraints last time... the Pyrenees will be a challenge with a pack at my age but we'll see how we go ....

best wishes to all the pilgrims about to embark again...
 

Tassie Kaz

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For those with Foxtel ...on Fox Docos there is currently a series called Europe's Most Beautiful Hiking Trails .....

My wife and I are looking forward to getting fit again and tackling the first half of the Camino ....we only did the section from Carrion de los Condes onwards due to time constraints last time... the Pyrenees will be a challenge with a pack at my age but we'll see how we go ....

best wishes to all the pilgrims about to embark again...
Thanks for the alert @Gerry O...hopefully the series will make it to 'free to air' at some stage.
Good luck with your plans...where there's a will, there's a way! If you're concerned about the Pyrenees, you could take the alternative, lower elevation route. 😊
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Crossing the Pyrenees is not difficult if:
1) you send your pack ahead with Express Bourricot from SJPP
2) break the journey by staying overnight at Orisson
 

Gerry O

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Thanks for the alert @Gerry O...hopefully the series will make it to 'free to air' at some stage.
Good luck with your plans...where there's a will, there's a way! If you're concerned about the Pyrenees, you could take the alternative, lower elevation route. 😊
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yes, I've heard about that route ... from memory, the time of the year you set out is crucial ??
 

Tassie Kaz

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yes, I've heard about that route ... from memory, the time of the year you set out is crucial ??
To go over the Pyrenees, yes..but the Valcarlos route (lower elevation) should be okay year round. I took the Valcarlos route because of poor weather when I set out from StJPdP in late April (2012).
If you use the Forum 'search' function, you'll find plenty of posts/advice about weather & conditions for both options at various times of the year. Otherwise, simply post your own thread & you're sure to get plenty of responses.
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timr

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Like you, I haven't watched any repeats of the 'Road to...' series. However, I have re-watched Simon Reeve's excellent (apart from the segment at the roadhouse...entirely unnecessary IMHO!) series 'Pilgrimage'; completely different format of course but gets to me every time.
@Tassie Kaz and others who have enjoyed the programmes of Simon Reeve may be interested to listen to his appearance last Sunday on BBC Radio (which I think is unrestricted for listening around the world). Desert Island Discs (DID) has been running since 1942.
 
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Tassie Kaz

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@Tassie Kaz and others who have enjoyed the programmes of Simon Reeve may be interested to listen to his appearance last Sunday on BBC Radio (which I think is unrestricted for listening around the world). Desert Island Discs (DID) has been running since 1942.
Oh wow...🙏 thanks very much for the info & link @timr. I just tried & had no problems playing it here in Aus.
Look forward to settling in for a good listen when our summer presents a not so lovely day.
Really appreciate you bringing it to my (& others) attention..I would never have known about it otherwise. 🤗
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Tassie Kaz

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Would be happy to swap a few of our 'not so lovely' days with you...... ☃️❄️
But of course, happy to think that someone somewhere is getting the sun!! 😎
Here you go Tim...have a typical summer-in-Launceston (Cataract Gorge, in the city) day.
Feel free to apply liberally as needed! 😎
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GaryAus

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Crossing the Pyrenees is not difficult if:
1) you send your pack ahead with Express Bourricot from SJPP
2) break the journey by staying overnight at Orisson
Or go the Valcarlos route and stay in Valcarlos (14km first day). 1 Nov to 30 April you have to do this anyway as Napoleon closed.
 

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