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Two questions - Albergue etiquette and credenciales!

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Topics' started by Nephelokokkygia, Mar 5, 2017.

  1. Nephelokokkygia

    Nephelokokkygia New Member

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    Good morning everybody,

    There are probably already several threads out there regarding this but I wanted to ask:

    1) Might sound like a daft question but are we to leave the details section of one's credencial blank until filled out at the cathedral in Santiago, and does it have to be stamped twice a day if you're doing the full SJPP-Santiago walk?

    2) When you've checked in to an albergue, although I'm aware most of them won't allow packs on the bed, is it still considered normal/safe to leave your pack there if you're heading out in to the village, town or city you're staying in?
     
  2. dougfitz

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    The credencial details should be filled out where you start, other, obviously, than the finish date. The Pilgrim Office advice is
    On the matter of stamps, this is what the Pilgrim Office website states:
    Many people will tell you that they have received their Compostela with only one stamp per day. I did in 2010. But it is quite easy to collect two or more stamps a day, even before the final 100km, and it makes sure that there is no question about this when you do get to the Pilgrim Office.
     
  3. C clearly

    C clearly Veteran Member Donating Member

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    Welcome! To answer your second question first... yes, it is normal to leave your backpack near your bed while you go out and about the town. Just be sure to carry valuables such as phone, passport, bank cards and money on your person at all times.

    About the credential and the stamps, DougFitz (above) has referred you to the precise information. The official rule is simple: Get 2 stamps per day on the last 100 km. In theory, it doesn't matter what you do before that (if all you want is the Compostela, not the certificate of distance). In practice, the person issuing the credential usually has some discretion in deciding if you have provided enough evidence that you walked the required distance.
     
  4. dougfitz

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    It is important to get a stamp at places before the last 1ookm if you want to get the certificate of distance for all the distance that you have walked. Other that that, as @C clearly says, it is the evidence that you walked the last 100 km that counts.
     
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  5. C clearly

    C clearly Veteran Member Donating Member

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    Yes, good point. I have edited my answer to be more complete, in case someone doesn't read down to your post.
     
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    I have walked 3 caminos and never got 2 stamps a day. Normally only get a stamp at each albergue. Never had a problem getting the certificates at the end.
     
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    How disappointed would you have been if a very rules oriented clerk had been working that day and denied you the compostela? Since it takes no effort to get two sellos in the last 100 km, I suggest following the rules (unless defying rules is part of your psyche). :)
     
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    It is down to your honesat face.....
     
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    Hola @falcon269, it is (was) my understanding that the two stamps per day specifically applies to those pilgrims who start around Sarria!

    I started in Pamplona and only on rare occasions did I get two stamps west of Sarria. (BTW is was very clear on my credenciale where I started from so maybe this error was ignored. I also was on a bike which I had indicated on the passport.)
     
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    The Pilgrim Office rules do not establish a specific pattern for those who walk further than the minimum. It establishes a minimum requirement from 100 km - two stamps a day for everyone who walks, 200km for cyclists.

    Ps - the rules are applied by humans, with all the vagaries implied in that.
    Pps edited to add cyclists. Thank you FLEUR.
     
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    I believe cyclists need to have pedalled the last 200km in order to qualify for their compostele
     
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    I was ignorant of the rules on my first Camino in 2015, so only got one stamp per day, starting in SJPdP. I was issued a credential in Santiago, but the person filling out my certificate did scrutinize my passport closely and at the time I wondered why. I consider myself rather fortunate. I will be going again this spring and will make sure I get two stamps per day from Sarria on "just to be sure".
     
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    Your understanding is not correct. The requirements are clearly stated on the website. The pilgrim office and the volunteers may choose to enforce strictly or not. If you want to be confident of getting the compostella, you should follow the rules.
     
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    OK - but it did not appear to matter the official in the Cathedral Office - I was given the full Compostela. I think I was asked if I had ridden the last 200 km to which I could truthfully reply YES. Will need to be more diligent when I walk the Frances in May - but think I might end up filling more than one credenciale - might have to staple them together. Cheers
     
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    I've seen point about "backpacks on bed" being a breach of etiquette; can anyone please share why?
     
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    Hi @joecamino

    Three reasons

    They carry dust and dirt

    They may spread bedbugs

    They may be wet from rain or sweat

    Good manners says keep them on the floor so that tomorrow's pilgrim gets a clean bed.

    D.
     
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    Because you pack has been on lots of less dirty places and we don’t want the contamination on the beds. Same way I would never put my suitcase on my bed at home.
     
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    ..and please do not use the chair that may be sitting at the end of your bunk to place your backpack permanently either.
    The chairs are for sharing, and for comfortably sitting when dressing or otherwise.
    If you do not want your bag to touch the ground for fear of critters, you might strap it to the end of the bed at your level.
    Usually the bunk beds are made of of metal, and I usually trust these to tether my rucksack here...
     
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    Rules were made for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.... ;):confused::p:eek:
     
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    And also, please don't put your backpack at the base of the ladder that the person in the top bunk needs to use.
     
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    I realize that we only have to have our credential stamped 2 times a day the last 100 km. I got mine stamped where ever I was at bars city halls and kept track of the place in my journal for future reference because of loosing my memory.
     
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    I like the idea of "stamps as memories of places." Is there enough room in passport if I went stamp crazy?
     
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    Joe, just get a couple of credencials, or three or four. You can fill them all up and then make a start on your notebook / guidebook / national passport (not advised) :cool:
     
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    - Then you can buy another credential and glue them together....
    so stamp to your hearts delight...
     
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    The fools usually think they are the wise ones. Maybe they are.
     
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    I left early in the AM from OPedrouza (before 6:00) and there just wasn't anything open to get a stamp. The trailside tents and stands weren't open, or the churches I passed, until I hit Santiago. As I stood in line at the Pilgrim's office I got worried that it would be a problem, but as I had started in SJPP, and had a second credential started, it was never questioned.
     
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    Hi Nephelokokkygia - the stamps are all unique, some quite grand and flamboyant, others special in other ways. It helps to have your Pass with you at all times - for example, at Pamplona Museum, you get free entry into the museum if you present your Pass and, of course, you get a grand stamp from the museum. Many places along the Way do this, and I like going through my Pass at home as it gives me reminders of all the special places along the way - cafes and restraurants will give you a stamp too, they're proud to do it! I got several stamps some days from all sorts of places, and tourist offices like to stamp your pass and take your info for statistical purposes. Obviously, at the smaller, quieter places there are less venues. If you think you would like to collect more stamps other than the regular ones, then take an extra pass or do as I do which is to photocopy blank pages and stick the copies in my pass. Never lose it, keep it safe and dry. Very best wishes. Buen Camino :)
     
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    If you can get a stamp out of the hospitaleros at Granon you will be doing very well.
     
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    I believe they have a policy of not having a stamp.
     
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    That's why you'll be doing very well to get one!
     
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    Define "well" ! :p
     
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    Once more, something that "should" be obvious to everyone. :^)
     
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    You'd think so! But on more than one occasion that's where the person in the bottom bunk put their backpack. :confused:
     
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    T'is ever the case.
     
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    I know the place you stay will give you a stamp but how do you get the second? Are there places to pop into?
     
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    From what I have been given to understand, stamps are available in a lot of places: churches have them, some cafes and bars have them and I am sure there are many more!

    Buen Camino!
     
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    I just love to collect the stamps as some are so beautiful so I just get stamps anywhere. Going again May 9 from St Jean. Anyone else leaving that day?
     
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    No. 1 - starting before Sarria you only need a stamp per day.
    No. 2 - Just take your most valuable items with you when you go out.

    Have fun.
     
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    Yes..., bars, restaurants and churches are all good places to collect additional stamps along the way.
     
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    This runs the risk of being misinterpreted. The Pilgrim Office web site is quite clear - you have to stamp the Credencial twice a day at least on the last 100 km (for pilgrims on foot or on horseback) or on the last 200 km (for cyclists pilgrims). The web site is silent on how many stamps are needed before the last 100km. If you want the Certificate of Distance, you would need to provide some evidence of where you started (and where you might have missed).
     
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    Only going on what we were told back in 2013 and what we experienced - Sarria onwards you need two stamps per day.
    We always made sure we got at least one per day and we started in Pamplona and went all the way to SDC.
     
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    I have commented about "number of sellos" posts before, and will chime in again here. I went "sello berserk", filling seven credenciales and a part of an eighth. I then scanned each page, uploaded them to a commercial website, and had a nice 24"x36" poster made. I am planning to do the Camino a second time this year, starting in mid-May and fully intend to go sello berserk once again.
     

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    Thank you xx
     
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    jsalt Jill Donating Member

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    Fabulous poster! And I like the Compostela being in the centre. Could you give the link to the website? I would love to do the same.
    Jill
     
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    They drew a heart in my credenciale. :)
     
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    Kelly Catlow Member

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    Me too!!!
     
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    You get your stamp in Grañon at the shop facing the church. Her husband owns the albergue just up the street so I suppose its his way of making sure his wife gets good business
     
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    trecile Veteran Member Donating Member

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    I got a stamp at one of the bars. They have it out on the counter and you stamp it yourself.
     
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    Kelly Catlow Member

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    How do you know where to get them? Is there a sign up the front?
     
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    Bradypus Antediluvian

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    Ernesto at La Casa de la Sonrisas told me that I could find one in the bar which must be about 20m from his door. No sign that I could see but almost every business along the CF has a sello - especially bars.
     
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    trecile Veteran Member Donating Member

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    Yup, that's the bar where I got mine.
     
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    The website is: www.collage.com
    A 60% off promotion on first time orders should appear when you go there.
    I was able to use this perk more than once by using different e-mails for subsequent orders.
    The poster is actually 20 x 30 and came framed. They do have 24 x 36, but unframed.

    Another good site to check out for Camino memorabilia is: www.vistaprint.com.
    I had some two-sided Camino shirts made using photos taken on the Camino, as well as some nice calendars. They also offer frequent promotions.

    And, last but not least: Go to Etsy and search Camino de Santiago. There is a shop that sells shirts covered with Camino sellos. He can make one with your personal ones if you wish, or you can buy the "generic" one. I liked the generic better because it is of the "all-over" design type, and I like the silky material better than the personalized one too!
     
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    Here is a picture of the "sello" shirt.
     

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    Greetings to everyone, I really appreciate all of your input and your passion throughout this fantastic forum. I am going on my first Camino at the end of May, till mid June.
    I will be doing the Northern passage, and I have a question regarding etiquette. When going out in town after a long hike, what is considered proper footwear for visiting the various sites and restaurants? Are flip flops ok, or is this looked down upon? Thanks for any help, everyone have a nice day.
     
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    Hopefully this fall!
    I would love to know what shoes you wore!
     
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    Not by the crowd wearing Crocs or dirty hiking boots to dinner.
     

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