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<blockquote data-quote="Former member 91017" data-source="post: 987800"><p>Yes, and I don’t eat industrial meat for that reason. I am very privileged to be able to afford to eat only from small, local farms with a “closed circle” approach to chicken, lamb, beef and pork, and to small plot vegetables (farms of roughy 30 acres in which they rotate the vegetable crops and the animals).</p><p></p><p>And I’m not going to rely on that monocropping/water use etc to provide the 20% for straight up food, which I guess is the only way the industry has found it economically “viable” to create the food supply. </p><p>Protein replacement foods are still riding the coattails of industrial food. The vegan soy and corn relies on the same mono crops and the same *system* for its economic viability (In our current industrial food system, that I do not defend).</p><p></p><p>Solution? I dunno. But I avoid participating in it, personally. I don’t go as far as my old professor who maintained a strict body-weight as a political principle (she did not want to do field work in places like Tanzania, arriving as a person with a body size larger than her average research participants). I do try not to take more than I need.</p><p></p><p>I am not sure what to do about the fuel issues… We have to stay warm… even with the mini-split heatpumps, there has to be some kind of power generation. My step father designed boilers for nuclear power stations (he did the installation near Moissac as just one of many around the globe); I tend to agree with him that there were/are the safest/cleanest option we have until solar gets a lot better, and more affordable. But the public still needs cheap fuel, and nuclear remains really unpopular.</p><p></p><p>On the Francés I learned that most of the sunflower fields were for cooking oil and for biodiesel.</p><p></p><p>It’s all a very big mess that I don’t have the answers for, only what I personally try to avoid using.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Former member 91017, post: 987800"] Yes, and I don’t eat industrial meat for that reason. I am very privileged to be able to afford to eat only from small, local farms with a “closed circle” approach to chicken, lamb, beef and pork, and to small plot vegetables (farms of roughy 30 acres in which they rotate the vegetable crops and the animals). And I’m not going to rely on that monocropping/water use etc to provide the 20% for straight up food, which I guess is the only way the industry has found it economically “viable” to create the food supply. Protein replacement foods are still riding the coattails of industrial food. The vegan soy and corn relies on the same mono crops and the same *system* for its economic viability (In our current industrial food system, that I do not defend). Solution? I dunno. But I avoid participating in it, personally. I don’t go as far as my old professor who maintained a strict body-weight as a political principle (she did not want to do field work in places like Tanzania, arriving as a person with a body size larger than her average research participants). I do try not to take more than I need. I am not sure what to do about the fuel issues… We have to stay warm… even with the mini-split heatpumps, there has to be some kind of power generation. My step father designed boilers for nuclear power stations (he did the installation near Moissac as just one of many around the globe); I tend to agree with him that there were/are the safest/cleanest option we have until solar gets a lot better, and more affordable. But the public still needs cheap fuel, and nuclear remains really unpopular. On the Francés I learned that most of the sunflower fields were for cooking oil and for biodiesel. It’s all a very big mess that I don’t have the answers for, only what I personally try to avoid using. [/QUOTE]
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