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I am planning to walk my 3rd Camino in April 2022. I have already walked 2 camino's, the Portuguese (Coastal Route) and the Primitivo.

I have 27 days available for walking. I can easily walk an average of 30km per day, but with some site seeing, I would prefer 25km per day. I want to end my camino with the Finisterre route. That will take me 3 days. I will therefor have 24 days of walking.

Any suggestions for a route of between 600km and 700km? I do want to do an official route from start to finish. I do not want to start halfway on another route (like for instance the camino Frances).

All suggestions shall be appreciated.
 
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I am planning to walk my 3rd Camino in April 2022. I have already walked 2 camino's, the Portuguese (Coastal Route) and the Primitivo.

I have 27 days available for walking. I can easily walk an average of 30km per day, but with some site seeing, I would prefer 25km per day. I want to end my camino with the Finisterre route. That will take me 3 days. I will therefor have 24 days of walking.

Any suggestions for a route of between 600km and 700km? I do want to do an official route from start to finish. I do not want to start halfway on another route (like for instance the camino Frances).

All suggestions shall be appreciated.
The Portuguese route from Lisbon fits your requirements.
As far as doing a "full" vs "partial" route - if you start from any place other than your own front door you are doing a partial route.
Starting points like St Jean Pied de Port are arbitrary.
 

dick bird

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Plata, Ingles, Madrid, Norte, Primitivo, Invierno, Aragones, Olvidado, Chemin D'Arles
Madrid and Invierno? Plata ( Sanabrés) starting from Salamanca? Irún to Ovideo? Or even the Chemin D'Arles starting in Toulouse or Arles. You decide.
 
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I loved the Norte. If you have 27 days you could comfortably start in Cantabria (Santander, Castro Urdiales) and enjoy some beautiful coastal walking before heading south and inland to Santiago. Whatever you decide, Buen Camino.
 

koknesis

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Lucky you! With a capital of 27 days I would arrive in Porto, walk to Barcellos (2-3days), then teleport to Braga, spend a day there and walk Camino Geira e dos Arrieiros (10-11days). Spend a day in SdC and walk to Fisterra (3 days). Spend a day there and walk to Muxia, where stay again for a day before taking a bus to SdC. That is because I love Costa da Morte so much! btw there is an option to walk a part of the stage from Fisterra to Lires closer to the coast than the waymarked path. "La via bonita" as the locals referred.
Kind of 21 days and not so many km of walking, but what a beautiful route expected! I am afraid the remaining days I would spend as stopovers for instance to explore some fine products of Ribeiro DO and Rias Baixas DO :) ... and yes, while in Muxia do not miss A Casa do Peixe for a dinner ..

Approaching Lires by coastal path:

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The Camino Catalán from Barcelona, Montserrat an on to Santiago de Compostela has always interested me.
I will therefor have 24 days of walking.
If you can do the Camino Catalan to Santiago in 24 days you are a much faster walker than I am. I won't say you are walking too fast, though. Everyone can walk at the speed that works for them.
 

jsalt

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I will therefor have 24 days of walking.

Any suggestions for a route of between 600km and 700km? I do want to do an official route from start to finish.
The Via de la Plata from Seville to Astorga is about 700kms, or about 29.5kms on average per day over 24 days . . .
 

Isca-camigo

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Various ones.
As suggested above the Camino Geira but start in Salamanca and do the Camino Torres to Braga which would be 24/25 i(ncluding the Geira ) days to Santiago, and would fit into the 600-650km range. On both options you might need some type of GPS.
 
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I am planning to walk my 3rd Camino in April 2022. I have already walked 2 camino's, the Portuguese (Coastal Route) and the Primitivo.

I have 27 days available for walking. I can easily walk an average of 30km per day, but with some site seeing, I would prefer 25km per day. I want to end my camino with the Finisterre route. That will take me 3 days. I will therefor have 24 days of walking.

Any suggestions for a route of between 600km and 700km? I do want to do an official route from start to finish. I do not want to start halfway on another route (like for instance the camino Frances).

All suggestions shall be appreciated.
I think you could walk the Frances with a couple of long days on the Meseta or a start in Pamplona
 

Eswee

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Madrid and Invierno? Plata ( Sanabrés) starting from Salamanca? Irún to Ovideo? Or even the Chemin D'Arles starting in Toulouse or Arles. You decide.
Hi Dick. I did think about the Madrid route. Thanks for the other suggestions.
 
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Lucky you! With a capital of 27 days I would arrive in Porto, walk to Barcellos (2-3days), then teleport to Braga, spend a day there and walk Camino Geira e dos Arrieiros (10-11days). Spend a day in SdC and walk to Fisterra (3 days). Spend a day there and walk to Muxia, where stay again for a day before taking a bus to SdC. That is because I love Costa da Morte so much! btw there is an option to walk a part of the stage from Fisterra to Lires closer to the coast than the waymarked path. "La via bonita" as the locals referred.
Kind of 21 days and not so many km of walking, but what a beautiful route expected! I am afraid the remaining days I would spend as stopovers for instance to explore some fine products of Ribeiro DO and Rias Baixas DO :) ... and yes, while in Muxia do not miss A Casa do Peixe for a dinner ..

Approaching Lires by coastal path:

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Hi Koknesis. My flight is already booked to Porto. So that will be an excellent starting point. I did start there when I did the Portuguese camino. I love my walk, so I want to walk the total of 27 days continuously. I will investigate your suggestions.
 

jsalt

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I think you could walk the Frances with a couple of long days on the Meseta
I would also choose the CF in the circumstances, starting in SJPdP.

1. It’s a different route from the previous 2 caminos.

2. It’s an “official route from start to finish” (for many).

3. There are many sections where one can walk more than 30kms to make up time.

4. The infrastructure is so good that often there is another albergue only 3, 4 or 5kms further.

5. The CF has so much pilgrim vibe, it HAS to be walked at least once.
 
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Eswee

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Done the Frances from SJPdP to SdC in 27 days. Not overly exhausting (July '19) and not overcrowded.
If you start in Pamplona you will have time to walk to Finisterre.
Fantastic. I would love to do the Frances in 27 days. The Finisterre is not a must. Is it possible that you can send me your route planner for the 27 days?
 
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The Via de la Plata from Seville to Astorga is about 700kms, or about 29.5kms on average per day over 24 days . . .
I want to end my first phase in SdC so that I can continue with the Finisterre route.
 

Eswee

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As suggested above the Camino Geira but start in Salamanca and do the Camino Torres to Braga which would be 24/25 days to Santiago, and would fit into the 600-650km range. On both options you might need to some type GPS or wikiloc.
Thanks. I will investigate this route.
 

Eswee

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I think you could walk the Frances with a couple of long days on the Meseta or a start in Pamplona
Thanks. Roland49 (above) did it in 27 days. Sounds like a good option to consider.
 

koknesis

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Hi Koknesis. My flight is already booked to Porto. So that will be an excellent starting point. I did start there when I did the Portuguese camino. I love my walk, so I want to walk the total of 27 days continuously. I will investigate your suggestions.
Apparently there is a route from Porto to Braga through Paranhos, S. Mamede, Nogueira de Maia, Silva Escura, S. Mamede do Coronado, Covelas, Esmeriz, Vila Nova de Familicão and Telhado. Perhaps it may help you with more uninterrupted walking.
I am not sure how canonical it is and is it waymarked at all..
 

Eswee

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I would also choose the CF in the circumstances, starting in SJPdP.

1. It’s a different route from the previous 2 caminos.

2. It’s an “official route from start to finish” (for many).

3. There are many sections where one can walk more than 30kms to make up time.

4. The infrastructure is so good that often there is another albergue only 3, 4 or 5kms further.

5. The CF has so much pilgrim vibe, it HAS to be walked at least once.
Thank you so much for this info. My biggest dream was to walk the CF, but I never new it can be done in 27 days. Roland49 and you just convinced me to do it. Now I am into the planning phase for the next 3 months.
 
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Thank you so much for this info. My biggest dream was to walk the CF, but I never new it can be done in 27 days. Roland49 and you just convinced me to do it. Now I am into the planning phase for the next 3 months.
Start in Roncesvalles, which is the traditional starting point for Spaniards.
 

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My biggest dream was to walk the CF, but I never new it can be done in 27 days.
If you are flying into Porto, then it will take at least one full day to get to SJPdP, so 1 day down.

Maybe Roncesvalles or Pamplona, as @jpflavin1 suggested, would be a better starting point.

Just curious, which airline are you going with from Cape Town?
 

jpflavin1

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Thanks. Roland49 (above) did it in 27 days. Sounds like a good option to consider.
The last time I walked the Frances in 26 days but could have done it in less time. The Meseta provides numerous opportunities to walk longer days. You do not have to do a lot of planning. I think 24 days is very doable.

That said, there will be those who say "What is the hurry"? I, for one do not necessarily want to spend a half day in every Pueblo along the way. The occasional 35-45 km day is not a problem.
 
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... and me. I already thought about the Madrid route.
I was about to say no .... because this is a very exclusive group ... but you seem to be a decent sort of a bloke. I guess we can make allowances for you cobber.
I'm considering Madrid to Sahagun.
Then bus (Quelle Horreur)? to Ponferrada.
On via The Winter Way (I just love the name) to Jamestown.
Maybe on out to the Coast...burn some shoes and clothes...We are trying to help with the establishment of a tradition. No, not really. We just like giving the moaners a windup.

Regards and good planning,
Gerard
 
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Eswee

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Apparently there is a route from Porto to Braga through Paranhos, S. Mamede, Nogueira de Maia, Silva Escura, S. Mamede do Coronado, Covelas, Esmeriz, Vila Nova de Familicão and Telhado. Perhaps it may help you with more uninterrupted walking.
I am not sure how canonical it is and is it waymarked at all..
Thanks. I will look into it. See if I can find a way. Luckily I have GPS to guide me when I get lost.
Start in Roncesvalles, which is the traditional starting point for Spaniards.
Sound like a good idea.
 

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If you are flying into Porto, then it will take at least one full day to get to SJPdP, so 1 day down.

Maybe Roncesvalles or Pamplona, as @jpflavin1 suggested, would be a better starting point.

Just curious, which airline are you going with from Cape Town?
I always fly with TAAG (Angola Airlines). I bought my ticket before covid for my trip end of last year, but because of covid, they did not fly. They luckily extend the use of my ticket until end of April 2022 (because they do not fly Cape Town/Porto yet).
 

Eswee

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The last time I walked the Frances in 26 days but could have done it in less time. The Meseta provides numerous opportunities to walk longer days. You do not have to do a lot of planning. I think 24 days is very doable.

That said, there will be those who say "What is the hurry"? I, for one do not necessarily want to spend a half day in every Pueblo along the way. The occasional 35-45 km day is not a problem.
I am like you. I love my walking.
 
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I was about to say no .... because this is a very exclusive group ... but you seem to be a decent sort of a bloke. I guess we can make allowances for you cobber.
I'm considering Madrid to Sahagun, bus (Quelle Horreur)? to Ponferrada, on via The Winter Way (I just love the name) to Jamestown. Maybe on to the Coast...burn some shoes and clothes...we are trying to help with the establishment of a tradition. No, not really. We just like giving the moaners a windup.
Regards and good planning,
Gerard
Thank you Gerard.
 

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Fantastic. I would love to do the Frances in 27 days. The Finisterre is not a must. Is it possible that you can send me your route planner for the 27 days?
There is a Camino planner for the Frances, you can plot your stages according to how many km you want to walk each day. 😄👣

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koknesis

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There is a Camino planner for the Frances, you can plot your stages according to how many km you want to walk each day. 😄👣
Right, for CF and many other Caminos:
So, good luck with planing, just keep in mind that emerging omicron variant may overrule all plans for coming months 🙁
 
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I would also choose the CF in the circumstances, starting in SJPdP.

1. It’s a different route from the previous 2 caminos.

2. It’s an “official route from start to finish” (for many).

3. There are many sections where one can walk more than 30kms to make up time.

4. The infrastructure is so good that often there is another albergue only 3, 4 or 5kms further.

5. The CF has so much pilgrim vibe, it HAS to be walked at least once.
I agree. Which brings up an interesting, maybe controversial, point I have often thought about. I have walked the CF twice, and will do it again in July. I have met plenty of people who have walked multiple CF's. One Canadian fellow had been walking it every year for the past 10 years. I like that, although I get the idea of doing new routes (collecting Caminos). I met a couple Australians who were doing it for the first time--when I mentioned that I had walked it before, and probably will continue to walk the CF in subsequent years, the response was something along the lines of "I can't imagine doing the same walk twice." That kind of made me wince. I think most on the forum, notwithstanding many who have walked numerous Camino routes, would agree that the CF is the Mothership, and not just for the superior infrastructure. For me it's the energy. Yes, far more people than lesser traveled Casinos--but that is the source of the energy. That ever-moving stream of souls from all over the world all headed in the same direction with the same goal. The idea of walking all day and only seeing a handful of fellow pilgrims is just not appealing to me. Not that I'm particular social--I'm not. I could easily walk a day on the Camino and barely converse. But, being in the milieu is an important part of the experience. Sitting and socializing in a Plaza Mayor at the end of the day and watching fellow pilgrims trudge in while having a beer or sangria might be my favorite aspect. I wouldn't think any of us gets the full measure of the CF in a single outing. There's just too much to see, and so many potential city/town/village/hamlet overnights to experience, such that once is just not enough. A few months ago I wrote a post about a slow camino, and and staying in "the inbetween places" which I hope to put into practice in July. The Camino Frances is the busiest, has the largest selection of accommodations and food, and the most astounding architecture. We all have our Camino likes and dislikes. Everything I like about the Camino experience is easily accessed on the CF. I will definitely keep my mind open about alternative routes, but as of now there is much more for me to experience on the CF. As jsalt who has an impressive list of completed Caminos other than the CF observed, the CF "has so much pilgrim vibe". I like that vibe. Maybe it's the crowds that help drive people to other Caminos. I'm not bothered by the crowds. In fact, I am timing next years Camino to arrive in Santiago de Compostela on August 7 or 8. Talk about crowds!
I am planning to walk my 3rd Camino in April 2022. I have already walked 2 camino's, the Portuguese (Coastal Route) and the Primitivo.

I have 27 days available for walking. I can easily walk an average of 30km per day, but with some site seeing, I would prefer 25km per day. I want to end my camino with the Finisterre route. That will take me 3 days. I will therefor have 24 days of walking.

Any suggestions for a route of between 600km and 700km? I do want to do an official route from start to finish. I do not want to start halfway on another route (like for instance the camino Frances).

All suggestions shall be appreciated.
 
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I agree. Which brings up an interesting, maybe controversial, point I have often thought about. I have walked the CF twice, and will do it again in July. I have met plenty of people who have walked multiple CF's. One Canadian fellow had been walking it every year for the past 10 years. I like that, although I get the idea of doing new routes (collecting Caminos). I met a couple Australians who were doing it for the first time--when I mentioned that I had walked it before, and probably will continue to walk the CF in subsequent years, the response was something along the lines of "I can't imagine doing the same walk twice." That kind of made me wince. I think most on the forum, notwithstanding many who have walked numerous Camino routes, would agree that the CF is the Mothership, and not just for the superior infrastructure. For me it's the energy. Yes, far more people than lesser traveled Casinos--but that is the source of the energy. That ever-moving stream of souls from all over the world all headed in the same direction with the same goal. The idea of walking all day and only seeing a handful of fellow pilgrims is just not appealing to me. Not that I'm particular social--I'm not. I could easily walk a day on the Camino and barely converse. But, being in the milieu is an important part of the experience. Sitting and socializing in a Plaza Mayor at the end of the day and watching fellow pilgrims trudge in while having a beer or sangria might be my favorite aspect. I wouldn't think any of us gets the full measure of the CF in a single outing. There's just too much to see, and so many potential city/town/village/hamlet overnights to experience, such that once is just not enough. A few months ago I wrote a post about a slow camino, and and staying in "the inbetween places" which I hope to put into practice in July. The Camino Frances is the busiest, has the largest selection of accommodations and food, and the most astounding architecture. We all have our Camino likes and dislikes. Everything I like about the Camino experience is easily accessed on the CF. I will definitely keep my mind open about alternative routes, but as of now there is much more for me to experience on the CF. As jsalt who has an impressive list of completed Caminos other than the CF observed, the CF "has so much pilgrim vibe". I like that vibe. Maybe it's the crowds that help drive people to other Caminos. I'm not bothered by the crowds. In fact, I am timing next years Camino to arrive in Santiago de Compostela on August 7 or 8. Talk about crowds!
Yes, yes, and yes!
I completely understand what you are saying. I don't mind walking sola, but I love having other pilgrims around me. My most solitary Camino experience thus far was the Camino del Salvador. I didn't see another single pilgrim the first day until I was almost at my destination. Then I shouted out "hola!" because I was so excited to see another pilgrim. That night there were four of us in the albergue. The next night only three. Then I walked alone after that until Oviedo. After Oviedo I walked up to the Camino del Norte. There were other pilgrims at the albergue in Avilés, but they were all in established groups. It was another day or so before I could really talk with another pilgrim.
The Norte now has a new ending that connects to the Francés at Lavacoalla, but I was ready to see more pilgrims earlier than that, so took a detour to connect to the Francés at Brea. I love the energy of meeting new pilgrims on the Camino.
 

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I agree. Which brings up an interesting, maybe controversial, point I have often thought about. I have walked the CF twice, and will do it again in July. I have met plenty of people who have walked multiple CF's. One Canadian fellow had been walking it every year for the past 10 years. I like that, although I get the idea of doing new routes (collecting Caminos). I met a couple Australians who were doing it for the first time--when I mentioned that I had walked it before, and probably will continue to walk the CF in subsequent years, the response was something along the lines of "I can't imagine doing the same walk twice." That kind of made me wince. I think most on the forum, notwithstanding many who have walked numerous Camino routes, would agree that the CF is the Mothership, and not just for the superior infrastructure. For me it's the energy. Yes, far more people than lesser traveled Casinos--but that is the source of the energy. That ever-moving stream of souls from all over the world all headed in the same direction with the same goal. The idea of walking all day and only seeing a handful of fellow pilgrims is just not appealing to me. Not that I'm particular social--I'm not. I could easily walk a day on the Camino and barely converse. But, being in the milieu is an important part of the experience. Sitting and socializing in a Plaza Mayor at the end of the day and watching fellow pilgrims trudge in while having a beer or sangria might be my favorite aspect. I wouldn't think any of us gets the full measure of the CF in a single outing. There's just too much to see, and so many potential city/town/village/hamlet overnights to experience, such that once is just not enough. A few months ago I wrote a post about a slow camino, and and staying in "the inbetween places" which I hope to put into practice in July. The Camino Frances is the busiest, has the largest selection of accommodations and food, and the most astounding architecture. We all have our Camino likes and dislikes. Everything I like about the Camino experience is easily accessed on the CF. I will definitely keep my mind open about alternative routes, but as of now there is much more for me to experience on the CF. As jsalt who has an impressive list of completed Caminos other than the CF observed, the CF "has so much pilgrim vibe". I like that vibe. Maybe it's the crowds that help drive people to other Caminos. I'm not bothered by the crowds. In fact, I am timing next years Camino to arrive in Santiago de Compostela on August 7 or 8. Talk about crowds!
Hi Bob. Thank you for this wonderful writing about the comradery between fellow perigrinos. I also enjoy the vibe of people walking the caminos. I very seldom walk with another perigrino. I prefer to walk alone, but I love it when we have a coffee (or a beer) at a Bar on the way. And then the evenings enjoying something to eat together and talking about the day's route. I always stay at municipal albergues to meet other interesting perigrinos. I do not think that I will get the same vibe if I walk the Madrid route. The Camino Frances it will be. If covid allows me.
 
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The Camino Frances it will be. It covid allows me.

Just in case you are wondering how to get from Lisbon, or Porto, to SJPdP, I’ll tell you our story.

We (4 of us) were originally booked on TAAG to Lisbon in June 2020, and then we intended taking the Trenhotel overnight to Irun, where Express Bourricot were going to pick us up to take us on to SJPdP.

Well, our flights are still on hold, but the Trenhotel no longer operates.

I had some TAP vouchers (from the same trip) that expired within 2 years, so I used them to buy us 4 flights from Lisbon to Bilbao in April 2022.

From there we’ll bus to San Sebastian, where Express Bourricot will pick us up.

That’s the plan, but as it’s changed 3 times already since June 2020, I will not be at all surprised if it changes again.
 

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I agree. Which brings up an interesting, maybe controversial, point I have often thought about. I have walked the CF twice, and will do it again in July. I have met plenty of people who have walked multiple CF's. One Canadian fellow had been walking it every year for the past 10 years. I like that, although I get the idea of doing new routes (collecting Caminos). I met a couple Australians who were doing it for the first time--when I mentioned that I had walked it before, and probably will continue to walk the CF in subsequent years, the response was something along the lines of "I can't imagine doing the same walk twice." That kind of made me wince. I think most on the forum, notwithstanding many who have walked numerous Camino routes, would agree that the CF is the Mothership, and not just for the superior infrastructure. For me it's the energy. Yes, far more people than lesser traveled Casinos--but that is the source of the energy. That ever-moving stream of souls from all over the world all headed in the same direction with the same goal. The idea of walking all day and only seeing a handful of fellow pilgrims is just not appealing to me. Not that I'm particular social--I'm not. I could easily walk a day on the Camino and barely converse. But, being in the milieu is an important part of the experience. Sitting and socializing in a Plaza Mayor at the end of the day and watching fellow pilgrims trudge in while having a beer or sangria might be my favorite aspect. I wouldn't think any of us gets the full measure of the CF in a single outing. There's just too much to see, and so many potential city/town/village/hamlet overnights to experience, such that once is just not enough. A few months ago I wrote a post about a slow camino, and and staying in "the inbetween places" which I hope to put into practice in July. The Camino Frances is the busiest, has the largest selection of accommodations and food, and the most astounding architecture. We all have our Camino likes and dislikes. Everything I like about the Camino experience is easily accessed on the CF. I will definitely keep my mind open about alternative routes, but as of now there is much more for me to experience on the CF. As jsalt who has an impressive list of completed Caminos other than the CF observed, the CF "has so much pilgrim vibe". I like that vibe. Maybe it's the crowds that help drive people to other Caminos. I'm not bothered by the crowds. In fact, I am timing next years Camino to arrive in Santiago de Compostela on August 7 or 8. Talk about crowds!
To me, saying "The Camino Frances was great but I can't imagine ever wanting to walk it again" is like saying "That was a great song but I would never want to hear it again." Similarly, saying "I love the Camino Frances, I feel no need to try a different Camino" is like saying "I've found the song I like; why would I ever listen to other music?".
 
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Eswee

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Just in case you are wondering how to get from Lisbon, or Porto, to SJPdP, I’ll tell you our story.

We (4 of us) were originally booked on TAAG to Lisbon in June 2020, and then we intended taking the Trenhotel overnight to Irun, where Express Bourricot were going to pick us up to take us on to SJPdP.

Well, our flights are still on hold, but the Trenhotel no longer operates.

I had some TAP vouchers (from the same trip) that expired within 2 years, so I used them to buy us 4 flights from Lisbon to Bilbao in April 2022.

From there we’ll bus to San Sebastian, where Express Bourricot will pick us up.

That’s the plan, but as it’s changed 3 times already since June 2020, I will not be at all surprised if it changes again.
Hi Jill. That will be a hill I have to climb if/when I ever get to Porto. My TAAG ticket was bought in January 2020 (before covid), for September 2020. I can still use my ticket till end April 2022. Hopefully there will be another extension if the borders are still close.
 
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To me, saying "The Camino Frances was great but I can't imagine ever wanting to walk it again" is like saying "That was a great song but I would never want to hear it again." Similarly, saying "I love the Camino Frances, I feel no need to try a different Camino" is like saying "I've found the song I like; why would I ever listen to other music?".
Or like a favorite food - you don't want to eat it all the time, but keep going back to it.
 

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