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Winter albergue closures on VDLP

Bradypus

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#1
I am walking the northern end of the VDLP at the moment. In the past few days I have discovered a couple of places where the Gronze website's statement that an albergue is open all year proved untrue. The first was in Montamarta where a notice on the albergue door said closed until spring. Today the municipal albergue in Mombuey was closed - no contact information on the door, no answer at the house named by Gronze as the keyholder. A private albergue close by was also closed but its owner at least tried but failed to contact the municipal hospitalero for me. So I carried on walking to Asturianos - an extra and unwelcome 17km arriving shortly after sunset. For those who are considering a winter walk on the VDLP it may be worthwhile to confirm in advance that your next night's stop is actually available. Online information is clearly not always accurate.
 

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naturmenneske

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#2
I walked from Sevilla to Santiago at this time two years ago and also meet closed dors, but with a little help from the locals I always found a place to sleep. Sometimes I took a taxi to get there. I walk no more than 30 km a day, mostly 20 - 25 km. I do not speak spanish, just some few words.
Buen Camino!
 

Pierre Julian

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#3
Quite a few closed along the way so far, I'm at Alcuéscar now, but always found somewhere. Main closures I remember are: Castilblanco, Albergue El Carmen at Villafranca, municipal at Tirremejía, and El Carrascelejo.
 

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#4
Best albergue so far: municipal at Guillena (spacious, kitchen, friendly hospitaleros at bar next door), municipal at Alamadén de la Plata (Nieve is the kindest of hospitaleros, good bathrooms and kitchen), private at El Real de la Jara (but only one bathroom), parish hostel at Monasterio (beautiful place, the priest in charge is always there cleaning!), El Zaguan in Fuente do Cantos (lovely Antonio's - father and son, beautiful place), Albergue Extrenatura in Villafranca de Los Barros: lovely place, Jose Maria is wonderful. Albergues to avoid (IMO): Alcuéscar Slaves of Mary (grim, rules, unfriendly, cold, no kitchen, if you arrive after 6pm: no dinner; food hard to find in town, difficult to find access to albergue - I waited an hour in darkness ringing bells and looking for someone to help, and then was told off by hospitallero for arriving late). Zafra: lovely Amigos albergue but a really unpleasant hospitalerra - hopefully she is not there for long).
 
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Momonne

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#5
Glad to hear the muni in guinella has opened again. And you made me smile when mentioning the priest in Monesterios always cleaning. He was deiving us mad when we were teying to cook. We figured he went into priesthood because no woman would put up with his cleaning frenzy.
 

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handzondeck2

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#6
I am walking the northern end of the VDLP at the moment. In the past few days I have discovered a couple of places where the Gronze website's statement that an albergue is open all year proved untrue. The first was in Montamarta where a notice on the albergue door said closed until spring. Today the municipal albergue in Mombuey was closed - no contact information on the door, no answer at the house named by Gronze as the keyholder. A private albergue close by was also closed but its owner at least tried but failed to contact the municipal hospitalero for me. So I carried on walking to Asturianos - an extra and unwelcome 17km arriving shortly after sunset. For those who are considering a winter walk on the VDLP it may be worthwhile to confirm in advance that your next night's stop is actually available. Online information is clearly not always accurate.
Bradypus how was the albergue in Asturianos? I'm walking in April and am thinking of stopping there
 

handzondeck2

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#7
Best albergue so far: municipal at Guillena (spacious, kitchen, friendly hospitaleros at bar next door), municipal at Alamadén de la Plata (Nieve is the kindest of hospitaleros, good bathrooms and kitchen), private at El Real de la Jara (but only one bathroom), parish hostel at Monasterio (beautiful place, the priest in charge is always there cleaning!), El Zaguan in Fuente do Cantos (lovely Antonio's - father and son, beautiful place), Albergue Extrenatura in Villafranca de Los Barros: lovely place, Jose Maria is wonderful. Albergues to avoid (IMO): Alcuéscar Slaves of Mary (grim, rules, unfriendly, cold, no kitchen, if you arrive after 6pm: no dinner; food hard to find in town, difficult to find access to albergue - I waited an hour in darkness ringing bells and looking for someone to help, and then was told off by hospitallero for arriving late). Zafra: lovely Amigos albergue but a really unpleasant hospitalerra - hopefully she is not there for long).
Hi Pierre great post. Do you have a list of the albergues were you are staying? Im walking in April
 

Bradypus

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#8
Bradypus how was the albergue in Asturianos? I'm walking in April and am thinking of stopping there
It was open and gave me a friendly welcome. Very simple place - beds, toilet and showers with no other facilities. Being right next to the bar helped. What more do I need? :)
 

handzondeck2

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#9
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It was open and gave me a friendly welcome. Very simple place - beds, toilet and showers with no other facilities. Being right next to the bar helped. What more do I need? :)
My type of albergue ;)
 

Pierre Julian

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#10
Bradypus how was the albergue in Asturianos? I'm walking in April and am thinking of stopping there
It really is a lovely albergue - thanks to him, but you are right! I think he needs a busier parish!
 

wildrover

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#11
Hi, I totally agree about the alcuescar albergue. I’ve stayed there twice now and on both occasions the fundamentals of Christianity were completely absent. Regarding the lady at zafra, she was more than polite and helpful towards me. I was there about 27/12. I’m assuming, it’s the same lady. Cheers,wild.
Best albergue so far: municipal at Guillena (spacious, kitchen, friendly hospitaleros at bar next door), municipal at Alamadén de la Plata (Nieve is the kindest of hospitaleros, good bathrooms and kitchen), private at El Real de la Jara (but only one bathroom), parish hostel at Monasterio (beautiful place, the priest in charge is always there cleaning!), El Zaguan in Fuente do Cantos (lovely Antonio's - father and son, beautiful place), Albergue Extrenatura in Villafranca de Los Barros: lovely place, Jose Maria is wonderful. Albergues to avoid (IMO): Alcuéscar Slaves of Mary (grim, rules, unfriendly, cold, no kitchen, if you arrive after 6pm: no dinner; food hard to find in town, difficult to find access to albergue - I waited an hour in darkness ringing bells and looking for someone to help, and then was told off by hospitallero for arriving late). Zafra: lovely Amigos albergue but a really unpleasant hospitalerra - hopefully she is not there for long).
 

Pierre Julian

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#12
Hi, I totally agree about the alcuescar albergue. I’ve stayed there twice now and on both occasions the fundamentals of Christianity were completely absent. Regarding the lady at zafra, she was more than polite and helpful towards me. I was there about 27/12. I’m assuming, it’s the same lady. Cheers,wild.
I think they may change regularly as I guess they are volunteers, because a friend was there 2 months ago, at that stage it was a man who met new arrivals in his underwear!
 

Pierre Julian

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#13

wildrover

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#14
I am walking the northern end of the VDLP at the moment. In the past few days I have discovered a couple of places where the Gronze website's statement that an albergue is open all year proved untrue. The first was in Montamarta where a notice on the albergue door said closed until spring. Today the municipal albergue in Mombuey was closed - no contact information on the door, no answer at the house named by Gronze as the keyholder. A private albergue close by was also closed but its owner at least tried but failed to contact the municipal hospitalero for me. So I carried on walking to Asturianos - an extra and unwelcome 17km arriving shortly after sunset. For those who are considering a winter walk on the VDLP it may be worthwhile to confirm in advance that your next night's stop is actually available. Online information is clearly not always accurate.
Hi, I knew about the montamarta closure in advance. I was nearly caught out by the one in mombuey. I was in the bar in Rio Negro de and I just happened to read your post. I went in to the hotel at the top of the town. Good value, extremely noisy.Your post saved me the walk down. Cheers
 

wildrover

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#15
I think they may change regularly as I guess they are volunteers, because a friend was there 2 months ago, at that stage it was a man who met new arrivals in his underwear!
I think the man is the owner and the lady I met, is his girlfriend. They were living in the albergue, when I was there. He’s an exceptionaly nice man. He’s the same guy who was there, on my first visit two years ago. His girlfriend, at times works abroad. Cheers,wild
 

Momonne

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#16
I think the man is the owner and the lady I met, is his girlfriend. They were living in the albergue, when I was there. He’s an exceptionaly nice man. He’s the same guy who was there, on my first visit two years ago. His girlfriend, at times works abroad. Cheers,wild
The Van Gogh albergue is owned by the local association, not a private individual, although Antonio is the man in charge. Other members of the association pop in to give a hand now and then, including a Norwegian who has been living in Spain for years and years. Antonio does have a bedroom at the back of the albergue. When I was there he was getting help from a lady who was doing this for the first time. She was a little nervous, but lovely. She had come from whereever her home is, miles away, leaving husband back at home, to volunteer for a couple of weeks.
 

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#17
I walked from Sevilla to Santiago at this time two years ago and also meet closed dors, but with a little help from the locals I always found a place to sleep. Sometimes I took a taxi to get there. I walk no more than 30 km a day, mostly 20 - 25 km. I do not speak spanish, just some few words.
Buen Camino!
How much water did you find 8 km after Santiponte when crossing the stream, on the left route, - or did you use the alternative route to Guillena ?
The water level at the time you passed , I mean !?
 
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Pierre Julian

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#18
How much water did you find 8 km after Santiponte when crossing the stream, on the left route, - or did you use the alternative route to Guillena ?
I walked it 2 weeks ago. I did not use the alternative route. I was able to walk around the water. No wet feet.
 

Pierre Julian

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#19
Warning in Galisteo, for those using Kelly's guide. He describes Bar Los Emigrantes in Galisteo as "a welcoming place and does good food (€8) which pilgrims rave about".

It must have changed since as the whole set up was pretty dodgy: some surly staff (not all), grotty bar, the room I was given was squalid, no spare blankets, dirty shared bathroom, heating would not work in my room (barman couldn't fix it). I asked for my money back and went to the albergue which is far superior - infact it's lovely.

The meal at Emigrantes was also no better than any other menu (and I've had many) and the sauce on the pasta was still frozen in parts. It was €9:50.

Sadly, Emigrantes is far from impressive. I would certainly not recommend anyone stay there.
 

Stivandrer

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#20
I walked it 2 weeks ago. I did not use the alternative route. I was able to walk around the water. No wet feet.
Thanks,
Did you go west or east to cross??
 

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#21
The meal at Emigrantes was also no better than any other menu
I had an outstandingly good meal in the dining room at the back of Los Emigrantes, in April 2017. It was good enough that I remember it clearly. The proprietors were friendly and helpful. I stayed in the municipal albergue.
 

Pierre Julian

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Pierre Julian

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#23
I had an outstandingly good meal in the dining room at the back of Los Emigrantes, in April 2017. It was good enough that I remember it clearly. The proprietors were friendly and helpful. I stayed in the municipal albergue.
Sad then that it's changed so much.
 

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#24
Last May we stayed at Hotel Medina further out of town as Emigrantes was full. Nice room and good menu at the Hotel.
 

Pierre Julian

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#25
The Posada at Grimaldo is wonderful and deserves full encouragement. Cesar is so kind, great breakfast (as Spanish breakfasts go), beautiful room, bathroom, lounge area. And all for £20.
 

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#28
How much water did you find 8 km after Santiponte when crossing the stream, on the left route, - or did you use the alternative route to Guillena ?
The water level at the time you passed , I mean !?
Stivander: The stream after Santiponte goes up and down very quickly depending on the amount of rain in the last few days. I walked this stretch on March 1, 2017. It was almost totally dry. Just two weeks before it had been 6 feet deep, and just two weeks later it was flooded again. I was very lucky. My advice is to watch the rainfall amounts for the several days before you leave Seville, this will be your best way to know whether to take the highway detour or not. Buen Camino!
 

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#29
duly noted, thanks..
I intended to ask sb in Seville
 

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