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[QUOTE="Smallest_Sparrow, post: 447700, member: 14189"] I've waited several days to join this thread, but here goes (putting on protective helmet:eek:) 1. I reviewed the thread on a 300km distance requirement that so upset the OP. No where did I see people denigrating pilgrims based on [I]distance-- [/I]only on the attitude they perceived in the last 100km. Could that perception be false? absolutely, and it could also be that some of the partying is coming from those who walked further but are deciding to cut loose as the journey ends, since everyone else is doing it. If you ask me, compared to every other camino I've been on, the entire CF is party-town. Perceptions vary, we don't need to accept them. 2. The proposal to use 300km rather than 100 km was made based on several issues: 300 km had more basis in history, 100 km was arbitrarily chosen in recent years. OK..I get that and respect that, good point. just because it isn't as convenient as 100 km, they make a good point. 3. exceptions were proposed for a 100km distance if disability prevented walking further. fair enough. 4. exceptions were proposed for the Ingles based on historical reasons. fair and consistent with their plea for historical basis 5. these combined to allow for people to walk 100km if disabled, to walk the Ingles if time/money were factors, or walk the 300 km in stages if time/money were factors (as is commonly done now for those who want to walk from say SJPdP or Paris or...) not unreasonable This was further proposed in part because the 100km distance put towns outside the 100km at a disadvantage (not so sure I think that's a valid reason, or eventually we'd all be walking from Roncesvalles or Irun or...:rolleyes:) This was further proposed in part because a 100km distance was easy enough that it attracted crowds that just intended to party their way to SdC, detracting from the fact that this is a religious pilgrimage (perhaps, but party people party...see 1. above) that last line could be a whole different argument (raising force fields:eek::eek:) but the fact is, it IS a religious pilgrimage founded in the Catholic faith. Yes, we all walk for different reasons, but the fact remains that we are tacking those reasons onto the path of a Catholic pilgrimage and should respect that. Anyone unable to respect the faith and emotions tied to what Catholics in our host nation hold have the option of many fine hiking trails...the Appalachian trail comes immediately to mind. Edit: before anyone protests that the Sarria-SdC party people are Spanish Catholics, let me say that what my neighbor does in his house is his business, what I do in his house is my business AND his business. all of that said, I would hate to see the distance increase because I fear the Ingles would become the Sarria-SdC equivalent (sad), the CF would be a nightmare from SJPdP to Pamplona AND from Leon westward (very sad),more will end up on the Norte and Primitivo (especially sad since I love them), infrastructure will not meet demand on the Primitivo and to some degree the Norte (I can already imagine the albergue posts), and people who probably shouldn't walk the Primitivo due to it's long required legs will need to be hauled off by ambulance (dangerous). I think that sometimes we read snobbery (or anger, or derision, etc) into posts because of a sensitive nature, or insecurity, or even fear or envy; hopefully all of that changes and improves with time, the Camino, or both. If for some reason you just can't stand to read a particular type of thread, don't. If my posts drive you mad, click on my name, then on ignore. So many times we are urged to take our personal issues off the thread, and into PM (and rightly so). I guess that's the thing that is bothering me the most about this thread, that a person's PM was made public, without permission or context. I get that the person who did that was upset, and so perhaps acted in a manner less mature than they wish they had...but the fact that they did that without censure makes me wonder if I ever want to PM someone. I don't agree with everything the person said in their PM (assuming it wasn't taken out of context), but I am very sorry someone violated their trust. [/QUOTE]
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