LouiseEdin
Louise Edinburgh
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- Frances 2015; finnesterre 2015; CP from porto 2016; Frances 2017; Mozarabe Feb 2018; CP Sept 2018;
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Porto is a beautiful town with lots of things to see. One day should not be enough !Hi, flying into Lisbon on the early morning of 1st Sept, getting train up to Porto (still to plan that) Should i stay in Porto one night and start out on 2nd? Plan to do coastal/beach route but go inland to get up high sometimes. Does anyone know if it is easy to go cross-country between routes? Thanks, love this forum
Thank you JackiHave at least a day in Porto if you can, it's a lovely city. You can easily walk from Vilo de Conde, on the coast, to Rates on the central route. Buen Camino, Jacki.
Thanks albertinho. Thanks for the itinerary and also the most important stop at casa da Fernando, looks like an unmissable place, but wasn't sure (from reading the forums) where it slotted inPorto is a beautiful town with lots of things to see. One day should not be enough !
The walk from the cathedral along side the Douro river and the ocean to Vila do Conde is great. 30 kms so you could do your walk to Matosinhos as a part of siteseeing , return to your hostal and next day take bus 500 of the metro to Matosinhos and walk from there to Vila do Conde. 20 kms.
From there it is 15 kms to São Pedro de Rates where is an albergue.
From there is some nasty roadwalking to Barcelos but with some safety precautions-fluorescent safetyvest- it is no problem. 20 km.
From Barcelos walk 18 kms to Casa da Fernanda and stay there for the night .best place on the caminho to stay. Give Fernanda a ring on beforehand +351 914 589 521. It can be busy.
From there it is 14 kms to Ponte de Lima. Stay there for the night. Albergue or several hostals.
Next day is a hard day climbing the off road path to the top of the LaBruja mountain and down to Rubiaes. 18 kms
From there every next stage is about 20 kms except the Padrón to Santiago stage. 24 kms
You could break this distance to 14 kms to Teo where is an albergue and the next day a relaxed walk of 10 kms to Santiago.
Bom caminho
Casa da Fernanda is 18 kms after Barcelos on the caminho in the little village of Vitorino de Piães. You can't miss it . If you see a sign Lugar do Corgo you are in front of her house.Thanks albertinho. Thanks for the itinerary and also the most important stop at casa da Fernando, looks like an unmissable place, but wasn't sure (from reading the forums) where it slotted in
Coastal route is well marked including going inland to main route. Do spend a day or 2 in Porto. See and walk across Eiffels Bridge, its free, take a tour and sample some Port on the river, it's not free, and walk around old Porto. Start your camino by take the tram to Matosinhos then walk back to Porto along the coast and river, spend the night, then take tram back the next morning and continue up the coast. Do be careful on the road of possible death, you will know it when you see it. Don't miss Casa Fernanda but do call ahead. Do spend the night on the Portuguese side of the boarder or if you spend the night in Tue go back and visit the old Portuguese boarder fort. Its free and there's a surprise inside. Bom CaminhoHi, flying into Lisbon on the early morning of 1st Sept, getting train up to Porto (still to plan that) Should i stay in Porto one night and start out on 2nd? Plan to do coastal/beach route but go inland to get up high sometimes. Does anyone know if it is easy to go cross-country between routes? Thanks, love this forum
In earlier issues of the Brierley guide he mentioned a detour from Porto along the coast to Vila do Conde and on to São Pedro de Rates. We walked a part of it in Vila do Conde last year and was very well waymarked with yellow markers.. In 2013 we walked the Portuguese from Lisbon and walked the detour too and it was well waymarked .can't imagine the waymarkers are gone by now.Was just spending some times going through the latest edition of the Brierly guide and it says that neither path from Vila do Conde to Sao Pedro de Rates to join the Central are waymarked.
I am talking about leaving Vila do Conde as he does not mention any problema until there.In earlier issues of the Brierley guide he mentioned a detour from Porto along the coast to Vila do Conde and on to São Pedro de Rates. We walked a part of it in Vila do Conde last year and was very well waymarked with yellow markers.. In 2013 we walked the Portuguese from Lisbon and walked the detour too and it was well waymarked .can't imagine the waymarkers are gone by now.
Another 'ooohps' in those guides that simply are not correct. Unless of course every arrow past May 2014 has been removed. I walked it. It's marked.Was just spending some times going through the latest edition of the Brierly guide and it says that neither path from Vila do Conde to Sao Pedro de Rates to join the Central are waymarked.
What did the old edition of his book say? If it also says it is not then I would have to go with your experience, but this is his brand new edition and things change quickly on the Camino. And he does say they were removed on purpose so people would not walk those options. Anyone have an old copy of Brierly's guide they can look up?Another 'ooohps' in those guides that simply are not correct. Unless of course every arrow past May 2014 has been removed. I walked it. It's marked.
yes - circumstances on some stretches on the camino can change quickly indeed while other remain unchanged for centuries.What did the old edition of his book say? If it also says it is not then I would have to go with your experience, but this is his brand new edition and things change quickly on the Camino. And he does say they were removed on purpose so people would not walk those options. Anyone have an old copy of Brierly's guide they can look up?
Okay. I have a 3rd edition of 2011 and a maps book of 2015What did the old edition of his book say? If it also says it is not then I would have to go with your experience, but this is his brand new edition and things change quickly on the Camino. And he does say they were removed on purpose so people would not walk those options. Anyone have an old copy of Brierly's guide they can look up?
What did the 2011 edition say about the waymarks?Okay. I have a 3rd edition of 2011 and a maps book of 2015
We did not walk via Beiriz but via Arcos. One time in 2013 coming from Vila do Conde and last time in 2014 coming vfrom Vairão/ Vilarinho and both routes were waymarked.
Last june we were as tourists in Porto and went by metro to Via do Conde and walked around and everywhere were waymarkers.
The detour VDC to Rates is indicated via Arcos only in the 2011 edition..What did the 2011 edition say about the waymarks?
I just follow the yellow waymarkersThe route south of N206: "If you are experienced at route-finding and orientation then it is relatively easy to follow and the first 5.4 km is due north alongside the aqueduct".
In the map it joins the Central at the intersection with N-306 and at Arcos you can take a detour to Villa d'Arcos or going straight to Sao Pedro.
Obrigada!Look at the subforum coastal route and you find all answers, vids,blogs.
The coastal continues all way to Vigo in Spain, is well waymarked and beautifull.
There are albergues, hostals,appartments for rent. Restaurants. All distances in between 20kms per day.
Bom caminho
I've got the 2015 guide, and it's got blue (front cover) / green (stage) dots all the way Matosinhos > VdC > Rates - then nothing along the coast til Esposende, where one can continue on the coastal route - do people always go inland at VdC? Is it not possible to just walk north to Esposende? If not, how do you get there to resume the costal route? Thanks.
It is the other way round. the first part to Caminha is not waymarked unless you first walk to Valença do Minho . Or walk along the not waymarked busy N202 to Viana do Castelo and walk from there the coastal to Caminha. Many roads lead to Rome eh...Santiago.Would recommend taking the "traditional" coastal route out of Porto up to Vila do Conde and then branching inland. However, after Ponte de Lima (one of the nicest towns on the CP) suggest turning back to the coast and taking the ferry from Caminha to Guarda. The next two days walking up the Galician coast via Baiona and Vigo to Cesantes (before cutting back inland to Pontevedra) are the most beautiful I experienced last year.
My wife and I are leaving Porto on the 15th April after 3 days there to walk to Santiago.Hi, flying into Lisbon on the early morning of 1st Sept, getting train up to Porto (still to plan that) Should i stay in Porto one night and start out on 2nd? Plan to do coastal/beach route but go inland to get up high sometimes. Does anyone know if it is easy to go cross-country between routes? Thanks, love this forum
Interesting ! The road to Barcelos indeed is not a nice one . I supose you will walk on small paths and use gps ? Looking forward for your updates.bom caminhoMy wife and I are leaving Porto on the 15th April after 3 days there to walk to Santiago.
We will go to Vila de Conde and from there inland to either Arcos or Rates and then take the tracks to Barcelos but over the hills rather than the road.
I will post something when we get back home to Brisbane Australia in later May. We are using Brierley's 2014 edition of the Camino Portugues.
Thanks for your comment. Brierly takes us on a path across Alto da Mulher and Quinta & Igreja (near Mont Franqueira)Interesting ! The road to Barcelos indeed is not a nice one . I supose you will walk on small paths and use gps ? Looking forward for your updates.bom caminho
Would recommend taking the "traditional" coastal route out of Porto up to Vila do Conde and then branching inland. However, after Ponte de Lima (one of the nicest towns on the CP) suggest turning back to the coast and taking the ferry from Caminha to Guarda. The next two days walking up the Galician coast via Baiona and Vigo to Cesantes (before cutting back inland to Pontevedra) are the most beautiful I experienced last year.
See my comment above ! To get to Caminha you have to go to Valença which means you have to walk the stages Ponte de Lima to Rubiães and Rubiães to Valença. From there you walk south west to Vila Nova de Cerveira and Caminha. So you will walk backwards .@Geoff the Welshman, how do you get from Pte de Lima to the ferry in Caminha? Brierly 2016 guide does not show a path. Thank you.
You are welcome ! The point is that Caminha is in forward direction north west from Ponte de Lima but diagonal you face a mountain landscape with pretty high mountains. Only the motorway crosses these mountains. We drove this motorway several times. There are a few villages so the chance to find a place to sleep ..???Thank you @Albertinho , I was hoping there was a way not to backtrack I could not see on the Brierly map.
Thanks albertinho. Thanks for the itinerary and also the most important stop at casa da Fernando, looks like an unmissable place, but wasn't sure (from reading the forums) where it slotted in
Dear all,
Awesome that so many pilgrims are interested in walking the caminos in Portugal. I have walked the coastal routes north of Porto twice (May 2014 and Sept 2014) on different routes and in May 2015 from Lisbon to Sdc and Finisterre mostly on the central route. All I can say is that all the Portuguese camino routes are well marked and there is no doupt where to go. Just follow the signs
The first stages between Lisbon and Santarem are quite lonely partly because pilgrims are being asked on this forum to start from Santarem to be able to skip the boring parts. For me the camino is never boring - if it is it's part of the camino! In good in bad in rain in sun shine on tarmac on board walks easy and difficult.
Bom caminho
Just placed a thread on this forum about Quinta da Portela last week.@lady danglebury
Don't worry if Fernanda's is completo. Walk 6 kilometers to Portela and stay at the Quinta da Portela - the Dutch man Han Geelen will open his Pilgrim House for you with two bedrooms, complete kitchen, great patio and view over his vinyards. He will do your laundry as well as he will cook you a superb dinner served in his magnifique dining room inside the main building. After the dinner a good night's sleep before continuing after the breakfast. Give Han a call first - maybe completo! Right on the camino easy to find.
Porto is a beautiful town with lots of things to see. One day should not be enough !
The walk from the cathedral along side the Douro river and the ocean to Vila do Conde is great. 30 kms so you could do your walk to Matosinhos as a part of siteseeing , return to your hostal and next day take bus 500 of the metro to Matosinhos and walk from there to Vila do Conde. 20 kms.
From there it is 15 kms to São Pedro de Rates where is an albergue.
From there is some nasty roadwalking to Barcelos but with some safety precautions-fluorescent safetyvest- it is no problem. 20 km.
From Barcelos walk 18 kms to Casa da Fernanda and stay there for the night .best place on the caminho to stay. Give Fernanda a ring on beforehand +351 914 589 521. It can be busy.
From there it is 14 kms to Ponte de Lima. Stay there for the night. Albergue or several hostals.
Next day is a hard day climbing the off road path to the top of the LaBruja mountain and down to Rubiaes. 18 kms
From there every next stage is about 20 kms except the Padrón to Santiago stage. 24 kms
You could break this distance to 14 kms to Teo where is an albergue and the next day a relaxed walk of 10 kms to Santiago.
Bom caminho
Just a quick note for those who may be interested. We are now back home in Australia.Thanks for your comment. Brierly takes us on a path across Alto da Mulher and Quinta & Igreja (near Mont Franqueira)
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