Advice on Heat

[Rambling Priest]

Hello! My family (two fit older teens and my wife) and I are heading out to begin the Camino Frances planning to start on this Friday 15 July in SJPP. The heat, of course, looks brutal. We're New Englanders, and it's been a relatively mild summer here so far. We've hiked in the White Mountains in the past so not too anxious about elevation gain, although I'm a bit out of shape having broken 4 ribs in Feb which took long to recover (these 50 year old bodies don't heal as fast as they used to) and friends feeding me a bit too much. I've pre-booked us the first three nights out (to Pamplona after which we hope to get off the encourage stage stops).

So the question: what advice do you have on the potential heat for the first three days or so of our Camino? Leave early in the day (ie 5:30) to avoid it? Take a taxi to Roncesvalles and reassess each day? Delay in Saint Jean through the weekend until the heat breaks? Something else? We'll be carrying enough water and will have electrolytes with us, as well as cooling towels...

Many thanks for your input.

 

[wayfarer]

St Jean is only a staging point for the Camino Frances so I would take a taxi to Roncesvalles. Start early, cover up eg broad brimmed hats (don't use baseball caps) long sleeve shirts and hydrate hydrate hydrate.
Buen Camino.
Edit: Drink tonic water at every opportunity, good for preventing cramps, the gin is an optional extra.
Aquarius was our soft drink of choice as well as it's isotonic and will replace electrolytes.

 

[Marbe2]

Yes, you can take a taxi to Roncevalles. But then what? How long will the heat wave last?

 

[Grousedoctor]

Hello! My family (two fit older teens and my wife) and I are heading out to begin the Camino Frances planning to start on this Friday 15 July in Saint Jean P-d-P. The heat, of course, looks brutal. We're New Englanders, and it's been a relatively mild summer here so far. We've hiked in the White Mountains in the past so not too anxious about elevation gain, although I'm a bit out of shape having broken 4 ribs in Feb which took long to recover (these 50 year old bodies don't heal as fast as they used to) and friends feeding me a bit too much. I've pre-booked us the first three nights out (to Pamplona after which we hope to get off the encourage stage stops).

So the question: what advice do you have on the potential heat for the first three days or so of our Camino? Leave early in the day (ie 5:30) to avoid it? Take a taxi to Roncesvalles and reassess each day? Delay in Saint Jean through the weekend until the heat breaks? Something else? We'll be carrying enough water and will have electrolytes with us, as well as cooling towels...

Many thanks for your input.

One needs to be very cautious when it’s hot! Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate! Be sure to carry extra water with you. My plan for the hot weather was to always leave early, just as you plan to do. Leaving at 5:30 should allow you to finish your stage by early afternoon. It’ll see be hot by late morning or mid-day, but you won’t have to walk in the more brutal later afternoon heat. If those first few days are going to be particularly hot, you might want to think about having your packs transported for you. As you have reservations for those first three nights, your packs can be easily delivered to your albergues.

I’ve thoroughly enjoyed both of my treks across the Pyrenees. I found it to be one of the highlights of my Caminos. However, most of the Napoleon Route is in full sun. Taking the alternate Valcarlos Route the first day would offer you a bit more shade. They’re both good routes over the Pyrenees, but walking in a bit more shade might make me lean in that direction although you’d miss some great views by not taking the Napoleon Route.

So, if it were me, I’d leave SJPP as planned and adjust as need be along The Way. By the time you reach Pamplona, although you’ll undoubtedly still have plenty of hot days in front of you, you’ll better know how long or short you want to make your walking days from there.

What’s difficult to advise you on is how your Camino will go as a group. I’ve walked solo and also with my wife. Very good, but different experiences. If one person has problems then that effects the entire family.

Buen Camino!

 

[dougfitz]

Looking at the forecast highs in Pamplona on the AEMET site for this week, they are all over 35 deg C, with one day forecast to reach 41 deg C. These are dangerous temperatures to walk in, no
matter what your experience or preparation. The maximum UV indices are peaking at 10, in the very-high to extreme range, indicating you will need to be careful about sun-protection as well.

I organise and lead walks where I live, and in these forecast conditions, I would cancel a walk. I would be thinking about getting myself to Pamplona, and re-assessing the conditions after that if the forecast doesn't change, and not walking in temperatures that high.

If you cannot avoid walking, use the mornings and evenings, and stay out of the sun and heat in the middle of the day. You say you have booked accommodation. Take advantage of that and let them know you will be arriving later in the day to avoid walking in the heat.

My own approach to walking in the heat is to wear long trousers and long-sleeved shirts, a full-brimmed hat and wear sun protection mitts and sunglasses. Even in lower temperatures, I will carry at least 2 li of water, and I expect to have to refill that at least once during the day. Once I get to where I will be staying, I use a re-hydration mix. I also try to have a couple of bananas, but if that is not possible, consider some form of magnesium/calcium supplement. I always carry some table salt sachets in my pack in case I cramp up in these conditions.

 

[12-22Pilgrim]

As someone who recently walked the Meseta through the last heatwave, I offer the following advice:

I definitely recommend starting early each day. I started walking many mornings between 5 and 6am and it was wonderful to see the sunrise, experience the cool, and avoid the worst of the sun. I would check the temperature charts - unlike in the US (I am from the DC area), the temperatures continue to rise all afternoon rather than peaking early. You may get some early relief in the mountains as well.

I also recommend ending early each day. I almost never walked past 130pm and many times arrived at my destination just before noon. That provided a lot of time to recover and rehydrate as well as avoiding the worst of the heat and sun. Ending a walking day with lunch rather than using it as a mid day break was a norm for me. And plenty of times for naps, laundry, and exploring/enjoying the towns. But it takes some in-day planning and an understanding of your pacing. If you have a flexible schedule it really helps but even if you have a target end date you can figure out work arounds that do not involve over extending and suffering.

Listen to your bodies - and take breaks to recover and rehydrate. This may seem counter to the advice above to move quickly before the afternoon, but if you start feeling bad, stop and recover before pushing on. The worst experiences I had with the heat were when I tried to go further than my body would allow. Look for any signs of sun and heat related stress. Heat stroke will knock you out for DAYS while a break may only take 30-90 minutes. I met people whose entire Camino almost ended due to doing too much in one particular day.

I booked hotels with air conditioning every 3-4 days. I don’t sleep well in the heat and it stays sunny and hot much later in Spain than at home. And Albergues generally do not have AC or even fans. Having a recovery day in between the extreme heat helped, although you will get more acclimated as time goes on.

And with a crew with you, remember that you need to listen not only to your own body, but to each other. I would NOT assume that fit younger people are going to do better - all the stories I heard were that they suffered the most in the heat (and with injuries from overdoing it early) because they thought they were invincible. Do whatever it takes to keep tabs on everyone and ensure they are drinking enough water and eating enough food. Don’t assume.

Make sure everyone is using good sun protection. 100 sunblock worked well for me but had to be reapplied every couple hours - which made for natural breaks. But have some sun protection garments ready too. I also changed socks more often due to sweat to avoid blisters (my feet swelled more due to the heat…so I got blisters for that reason).

So combining all of those, have some flexibility in your plans - think about where you might stop earlier or where you might pick up a taxi if walking isn’t a good option. I think that is better than trying to wait out the heat. Our heatwave continued several days after relief was promised.

With all that said, I think you will do just fine. It’s July in Spain so it will be hot. Days on the Camino are rarely pleasant the whole time but as long as you are taking precautions against actual physical harm you should adapt well. And it will make a better story than “it was 68 and mostly cloudy the whole journey.”

Buen Camino!

 

[Mananath]

Today was my 6th day on the Frances, starting from Pamplona. My first day it was mid 70s and it was perfect since then the heat has greatly increased. It makes it hard to walk, the heat and the sun wear you down. I have been starting between 6-7am but I think I will start at 5 am pretty soon to get a few hours of walking before the sun is too intense. Bring enough water with you-there have been long, exposed, sections where there is no opportunity to fill up. I am also taking electrolyte supplements each day (nuun-bough in the us but you can buy similar in Spain). Despite carrying 1.5l of water and having a hydration tube I never feel like I am getting enough water!
Apply sunscreen liberally and cover up skin if possible. I have been wearing shorts since it is so hot but a long sleeve shirt with a hood. Plus a buff around my neck and a rimmed hat.
I have been trying to time my walks to arrive around 1300 most days. One thing I have noticed is that the daily high temp tends to occur in the late afternoon.

Good luck!

 

[DoughnutANZ]

I finished my last Camino in July in 40 degree temperatures.

I definitely recommend starting early each day. I started walking many mornings between 5 and 6am and it was wonderful to see the sunrise, experience the cool, and avoid the worst of the sun.

Do this.

I also recommend ending early each day. I almost never walked past 130pm and many times arrived at my destination just before noon.

Do this.

If you want to start in St. Jean then I recommend breaking up the walk to Roncesvalles into sections. I used Express Bourricot (https://www.expressbourricot.com/contact-and-booking/) from St. Jean. If you pre-book with them then they will meet you at prearranged spots on the walk to Roncesvalles and drive you back to St. Jean and then return you the next morning. If using Express Bourricot then consider being picked up at the "coffee cart" where the trail leaves the tarseal. They will probably recommend picking you up at the Snow Virgin but there is no shelter there and while you wait you sit on a rock. At the coffee cart (if it is open) you can buy a drink and sit on one of their chairs.

As everyone say, carry and drink lots of water.

Immediately after Roncesvalles you walk through a forest with good shade and it is downhill and so easier. There is quite a lot of shade right through to Pamplona.

By then you will have a feel for things but there is less shade after Pamplona and more uphill walking and so do short days.

 

[mspath]

All of the above posts provide useful tips for walking in summer heat. However do remember that you and you family may be tired after your flight; take some time to really rest/sleep before you start to walk. Neither route up to Roncesvalles is easy but in this exceptional heat either route could be life threatening.

Wherever/however you go good luck and Buen camino.

 

[woody66]

Such wise words posted above!
Water is life (that sounds like a very deep statement but true)

I thought carefully about dehydration when i walked the Portuguese last year! (i carried 5 x 330ml full bottles in my pack and had stopped for drinks along the way)

On the day it caught me out the temperature was around 23-24 C (cool compared to what you will be walking in)and it rained all day!
I had on a lightweight waterproof jacket, rain kilt and a sub 5 kilo pack (before water) so not over heating or sweating or so i thought as the rain was cooling!
Well i was wrong.
Obviously after walking for 7+ hours i just thought i was tired; but i was dehydrated (bit gross but i peed melted chocolate) some pilgrims i had walked with gave me lots of water and electrolytes!
I don't think it would have been very much longer before i would have been in big trouble!
When you walk it may well be much hotter!!
Take care of yourselves and enjoy your walk.
Buen Camino
Woody

 

[JerryStroebele]

Make your own shade. Carry a parasol -- an umbrella. Preferably a lightweight one with UV protection. Buen Camino

 

[lt56ny]

Looking at the forecast highs in Pamplona on the AEMET site for this week, they are all over 35 deg C, with one day forecast to reach 41 deg C. These are dangerous temperatures to walk in, no
matter what your experience or preparation. The maximum UV indices are peaking at 10, in the very-high to extreme range, indicating you will need to be careful about sun-protection as well.

I organise and lead walks where I live, and in these forecast conditions, I would cancel a walk. I would be thinking about getting myself to Pamplona, and re-assessing the conditions after that if the forecast doesn't change, and not walking in temperatures that high.

If you cannot avoid walking, use the mornings and evenings, and stay out of the sun and heat in the middle of the day. You say you have booked accommodation. Take advantage of that and let them know you will be arriving later in the day to avoid walking in the heat.

My own approach to walking in the heat is to wear long trousers and long-sleeved shirts, a full-brimmed hat and wear sun protection mitts and sunglasses. Even in lower temperatures, I will carry at least 2 li of water, and I expect to have to refill that at least once during the day. Once I get to where I will be staying, I use a re-hydration mix. I also try to have a couple of bananas, but if that is not possible, consider some form of magnesium/calcium supplement. I always carry some table salt sachets in my pack in case I cramp up in these conditions.

You are prepared! I never walk in summer exactly for this reason. One of those UV reflecting umbrellas are supposed to help from what I have read here on the forum.

 

[FRM]

I wouldn’t walk in the summer without an umbrella. It is noticeable cooler in the shade the umbrella provides.

 

[Marbe2]

Depending on how hot the day will be you could walk very early. You will be following the road out of St. jean D428. The road is paved and leads your almost all the way up. It is not lit so you will need head lamps. There is a cut off(to the left) which normally folks take and is steep (see red on Map) but it is an unpaved path which eventually brings one back to D428. In the dark you have the option to just follow continuing to follow the road to Orisson. The road is a bit further but in the dark you would be surefooted.

 

[J Willhaus]

I just came off a different Camino route and very nearly had a case of heat exhaustion last week. If you walk from St Jean there is water at Orrison and at the Spanish border over the pass.

If you or others begin to feel light headed, stop, get on some kind of shade and try to cool yourself by loosening clothing. Lie down (even if it is in the weeds and drink water. Have the 112 emergency number programmed into your phone.

I know you are excited to be on the Camino, but walk early and keep your distances low when it is hot even if it means taking a cab or rearranging travel.

 

[Bob Howard]

I’m sitting across from Albergue Restaurant El Puntido in Hontanas (Meseta) right now. They have an outside digital time and temp display. It’s about 4:30, typically the hottest time of the day. I walked from Rabe de Las Calzadas leaving at 6:15. It was 15C/59Fwhen I left, about 4 hours later when I arrived, it was 29C/82F. At about 1:00, it had gotten to 88—after 7 hours. At an average walking speed of 3 miles per hour (4.8km per hour), you would have walked 33km—average Brierly stages are abut 25km.The range of temps in these Spanish heat waves can easily vary by 100+%. I saw that yesterday Texas reached 104 with a morning low of 84–only about a 20% high/low difference. Have a look AccuWeather.com for any give day at the morning to afternoon changes and you’ll see the pattern— very much unlike the US, for example. Simply leaving at 6:00 and arriving by noon substantially defeats the heat wave.

 

[Bob Howard]

Forgot to include that at 4:30 it e was 39C/102F.

 

[ParrisPair]

As you have your accommodation booked ahead, I would recommend having your backpacks sent ahead whilst it’s so hot. We have just reached Finisterre, and it has been hot!! After a couple of days enduring high temperatures, we decided not to be heroes and had our rucksacks transported - it made all the difference!

 

[Marbe2]

I posted this before but it is worth reviewing

How to prevent heat stroke

1. Drink plenty of fluids. ...
2. Do not drink alcohol, caffeine, drinks.
3. Water is your best choice..
4. Make sure the water or sports drinks are cool.
5. Wear lightweight, light-colored, loose-fitting clothing
6. Wear wide-brimmed hat. Soak your hat in water periodically to bring down your temperature.
7. Use a sunscreen with an SPF of at least 30
8. Avoid asphalt or concrete.
9. Slow down your pace and take extra time in shaded areas.
10. Walk very early in the morning and shorten your itinerary if necessary.

Wanted to remind everyone walkng of the signs of heat Exhaustion.

• a headache.
• dizziness and confusion.
• loss of appetite and feeling sick.
• excessive sweating and pale, clammy skin.
• cramps in the arms, legs and stomach.
• fast breathing or pulse.
• a high temperature of 38C or above.
• being very thirsty.

https://www.nhs.uk › conditions › h...

 

[Rambling Priest]

Many thanks for all the suggestions above. It's helping us make a better plan than we would have on our own. It's so nice to have a group of so many willing to help and support those of us who are new. Much appreciated.

 

[Marbe2]

Many thanks for all the suggestions above. It's helping us make a better plan than we would have on our own. It's so nice to have a group of so many willing to help and support those of us who are new. Much appreciated.

Please let us know how you make out! Buen Camino

 

[MikeyC]

I posted this before but it is worth reviewing

How to prevent heat stroke

1. Drink plenty of fluids. ...
2. Do not drink alcohol, caffeine, drinks.
3. Water is your best choice..
4. Make sure the water or sports drinks are cool.
5. Wear lightweight, light-colored, loose-fitting clothing
6. Wear wide-brimmed hat. Soak your hat in water periodically to bring down your temperature.
7. Use a sunscreen with an SPF of at least 30
8. Avoid asphalt or concrete.
9. Slow down your pace and take extra time in shaded areas.
10. Walk very early in the morning and shorten your itinerary if necessary.

Wanted to remind everyone walkng of the signs of heat stroke

• a headache.
• dizziness and confusion.
• loss of appetite and feeling sick.
• excessive sweating and pale, clammy skin.
• cramps in the arms, legs and stomach.
• fast breathing or pulse.
• a high temperature of 38C or above.
• being very thirsty.

https://www.nhs.uk › conditions › h...

Good advice from Marbe2 but we need to be clear about the difference between heat exhaustion and heat stroke.

The symptoms listed above are those of heat exhaustion which is an unpleasant enough experience in itself. I suffered from this a few years back between Leon and Hospital.

The steps to alleviate heat exhaustion include seeking shade, lying down with feet slightly raised, drink and cool the skin.

If the person affected does not improve after 30 minutes then what follows is heat stroke which requires medical intervention and a call to the emergency services.

In the UK we have much lower temperatures than Spain and have 2000 heat related deaths. The heat causes our blood vessels to expand so as to cool down resulting in lower blood pressure. Mild symptoms from this can be swollen feet and an itchy heat rash. Sweating and loss of fluids and salt can cause an imbalance in these which is not a good outcome. If the blood pressure drops too far this can then lead to strokes and heart attacks. Certain medications can exacerbate the problem.
I grow up in the Tropics and spent years in South America which gives some tolerance for heat but also a lot of respect. So I'm with Dougfitz on this one and just would not walk.

 

[Harland2019]

If they don't already could the volunteers in the Pilgrims Office remind those pilgrims who check-in, and perhaps give them a handout, strongly of the importance of hydration, starting early, sunscreen, wearing a wide-brimmed hat, resting occasionally and I know that it sounds harsh but advise people of the casualties - "it could be you". I know they do the same where conditions are likely to be problematic over the Napolean route.

 

[dougfitz]

For those that might think the risk can be managed, be aware of incidents like this: https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/belgian-pilgrim-died-on-the-camino.75844/
It is often safer not to walk!

 

[dougfitz]

Wanted to remind everyone walkng of the signs of heat stroke

• a headache.
• dizziness and confusion.
• loss of appetite and feeling sick.
• excessive sweating and pale, clammy skin.
• cramps in the arms, legs and stomach.
• fast breathing or pulse.
• a high temperature of 38C or above.
• being very thirsty.

These might be the signs of heat exhaustion, but they are NOT the signs of heat stroke. The key signs that a person is suffering from heat stroke are that they have an elevated body temperature and stopped sweating, which will normally be evident by their skin being hot and dry to touch. If someone has collapsed and become unresponsive, one should treat that as heat stroke, rather than provide first aid for heat exhaustion.

The Australian Red Cross advice is to immediately call the emergency response number (112, 000, 999, 911) and to cool the person down. You shouldn't try and get them to drink fluids at this point to avoid the risk that they will choke or vomit.

I note that the advice on first aid treatment seems to vary a little from country to country. It seems to me that advice like waiting 30 minutes, which might be okay if one is an urban setting for someone in their own home, office, shops, etc just isn't appropriate for much of the Camino. If someone has hot, dry skin and has stopped sweating, I think immediate action to treat this as heat stroke is necessary.

 

[Former member 59618]

While walking from Cajarc to Limogne-en_Quercy on the Le Puy in mid-Sept 2019, I got severely dehydrated - and it happened quickly. At first I thought I was just having an off day, had low energy, but I arrived at the municipal gíte exhausted, fried and dehydrated (not just the "I'm thirsty" kind of dehydrated but something more).

That night I was unusually tired, almost to the point of being sick. That's when I realized had teetered dangerously close to potential heatstroke.

Needless to say, the next day I took it much easier

 

[Chevychase]

Hello! My family (two fit older teens and my wife) and I are heading out to begin the Camino Frances planning to start on this Friday 15 July in SJPP. The heat, of course, looks brutal. We're New Englanders, and it's been a relatively mild summer here so far. We've hiked in the White Mountains in the past so not too anxious about elevation gain, although I'm a bit out of shape having broken 4 ribs in Feb which took long to recover (these 50 year old bodies don't heal as fast as they used to) and friends feeding me a bit too much. I've pre-booked us the first three nights out (to Pamplona after which we hope to get off the encourage stage stops).

So the question: what advice do you have on the potential heat for the first three days or so of our Camino? Leave early in the day (ie 5:30) to avoid it? Take a taxi to Roncesvalles and reassess each day? Delay in Saint Jean through the weekend until the heat breaks? Something else? We'll be carrying enough water and will have electrolytes with us, as well as cooling towels...

Many thanks for your input.

We use a grading system for how everyone is feeling during the day. Eg. "out of 10. Where 10/10 is perfect and 3/10 is feeling the need to get off the trail. We gather every 30 min and ask the question" out of 10?" especially in the heat this is useful for things like :
Knowing what the group is feeling
Reminds one to sip /drink that water
Keep your hat on
Keeps the group together /near
No one is moaning but rather reporting
Manages planned stops when the group needs them.
This system is very useful in extreme conditions.

 

[Kanga]

So the question: what advice do you have on the potential heat for the first three days or so of our Camino? Leave early in the day (ie 5:30) to avoid it? Take a taxi to Roncesvalles and reassess each day? Delay in Saint Jean through the weekend until the heat breaks? Something else? We'll be carrying enough water and will have electrolytes with us, as well as cooling towels...

Many thanks for your input.

My daughter and I walked from SJPDP over the Napoleon in July (many years ago). It was in the days before there was a gîte at Orisson so there was nothing between Huntto and Roncesvalles. It is a very long day.

The heat was brutal. We saw flocks of Pyrenean vultures flying overhead and felt sure we would be dinner.

My suggestions - take plenty of water and take shade umbrellas - hiking umbrellas are fabulous, especially if they have a reflective sliver covering. If you use sticks you can rig the umbrella to your hiking pack to walk hands free. On the Napoleon there is a long stretch without any tree cover, until you reach the beach forest just before Roncesvalles, and a shade umbrella would make a big difference.

These days I would also always split the walk and make it over two days, either book in at Orisson for the night or taxi down and back sleeping overnight at SJPDP.

I'd also think about walking the more historic route through Valcarlos, which is more sheltered, has two villages on the way, and parallels the road so you can telephone for help if needed. Even then, I'd still need to carry plenty of water and I'd use a shade umbrella, at least until into the trees.

 

[dougfitz]

Basically, I think, they are electrolyte powders.

There seem to be a variety of different brands, but none of the ones that I was able to find ingredients lists for contained any electrolytes. They seem to be a combination of bicarbonate of soda, tartaric acid and malic acid. A chemist might have a view on what this does, but doesn't look like an electrolyte supplement to me.

Edit:

However, a small light cerveza at the end of a day's walking serves to replenish salts.

What beer have you found with any appreciable quantity of salt? And is it only a sodium salt, or the potassium and magnesium salts that you really need for re-hydration in the heat?

 

[Purple Backpack]

I hate the heat but always seem to get caught in heat waves, like the May one in France. My umbrella makes a world of difference and I also try to stock up on Pringles and orange juice. Plus what everyone else said above. Stay safe, Buen Camino!

 

[Marbe2]

These might be the signs of heat exhaustion, but they are NOT the signs of heat stroke. The key signs that a person is suffering from heat stroke are that they have an elevated body temperature and stopped sweating, which will normally be evident by their skin being hot and dry to touch. If someone has collapsed and become unresponsive, one should treat that as heat stroke, rather than provide first aid for heat exhaustion.

The Australian Red Cross advice is to immediately call the emergency response number (112, 000, 999, 911) and to cool the person down. You shouldn't try and get them to drink fluids at this point to avoid the risk that they will choke or vomit.

I note that the advice on first aid treatment seems to vary a little from country to country. It seems to me that advice like waiting 30 minutes, which might be okay if one is an urban setting for someone in their own home, office, shops, etc just isn't appropriate for much of the Camino. If someone has hot, dry skin and has stopped sweating, I think immediate action to treat this as heat stroke is necessary.

Thank you! Yes, indeed, my post should have been titled heated exhaustion, not heat stroke. If one is experiencing heat exhaustion systems stop walking immediately!

 

[MikeyC]

Lots of comments about carrying extra water.
Remember that adequate hydration in high temperatures starts with fluid intake before walking. Better to neck a bottle of water before starting than carrying it and waiting to feel thirsty.
A key test to objectively check you are drinking enough is whether you are peeing and what colour urine you produce. Light is good; dark is bad and indicates dehydration.

 

[Gerard Griffin]

Three points: first, there's an urgent necessity for shelters to be set up at intervals on Camino stretches which require them. A simple 4 posts plus roof and bench would do. This is essential on the VDP and with the new normal of summer heatwaves, on sections of the CF as well.

Second, we need to eliminate the risk on the CF posed by pilgrims not finding a bed and bring obliged to walk on to the next albergue in the afternoon heat. Every town needs emergency overflow accommodation in the summer, an easy thing for the local government to organise I think.

Third, (and this is a bit of a stretch ...) Imagine a volunteer group of Camino Angels, in green tabards, walking and cycling Camino stages, with water, advice, basic medical help and a kind word for all. I don't know how many local people and walkers/cyclists would be up for this. Speaking personally, I'd do it in a flash.

 

[MichelleElynHogan]

I came close to heat stroke in August 2016. I was very fortunate that day to survive.

 

[RUNLERUN]

Three points: first, there's an urgent necessity for shelters to be set up at intervals on Camino stretches which require them. A simple 4 posts plus roof and bench would do. This is essential on the VDP and with the new normal of summer heatwaves, on sections of the CF as well.

Second, we need to eliminate the risk on the CF posed by pilgrims not finding a bed and bring obliged to walk on to the next albergue in the afternoon heat. Every town needs emergency overflow accommodation in the summer, an easy thing for the local government to organise I think.

Third, (and this is a bit of a stretch ...) Imagine a volunteer group of Camino Angels, in green tabards, walking and cycling Camino stages, with water, advice, basic medical help and a kind word for all. I don't know how many local people and walkers/cyclists would be up for this. Speaking personally, I'd do it in a flash.

Such wonderful suggestions. I’m currently doing the Camino. The heat is very serious. I try to start walking before 5:30 so I can be done before the heat becomes unbearable. It is very frightening, especially because I’m doing it alone. For tomorrow’s walk, I have arranged to walk with another peregrina that I met in st Jean. I think finding someone to walk with, during this heat wave may also be a good idea. If you run into difficulties, there is someone there to help.

 

[Roland49]

Third, (and this is a bit of a stretch ...) Imagine a volunteer group of Camino Angels, in green tabards, walking and cycling Camino stages, with water, advice, basic medical help and a kind word for all. I don't know how many local people and walkers/cyclists would be up for this. Speaking personally, I'd do it in a flash.

I walked 2019 from Puente de la Reina to Los Arcos (43km) in 38°C. Just after the last (dry) fountain before Los Arcos I walked on and just after the small intersection of the A-12 I encountered the first bombero that picked up pilgrims (the food truck wasn't there) if they had a breakdown and were unable to walk further.

I told him that I was ok and he drove off to Los Arcos.
Later that day I met the both girls that he picked up and they both had heatstroke (no hat, not enough water, short garment).

I think that some parts of the CF are well observed in summertimes, when the heat is striking.

 

[lt56ny]

If they don't already could the volunteers in the Pilgrims Office remind those pilgrims who check-in, and perhaps give them a handout, strongly of the importance of hydration, starting early, sunscreen, wearing a wide-brimmed hat, resting occasionally and I know that it sounds harsh but advise people of the casualties - "it could be you". I know they do the same where conditions are likely to be problematic over the Napolean route.

As I just mentioned in a previous comment. I have heard that those UV reflective umbrellas are really good for protection. I never walk this time of year because of crowds and especially because of the heat which will only worsen as time goes on. Be safe.

 

[Mananath]

Such wonderful suggestions. I’m currently doing the Camino. The heat is very serious. I try to start walking before 5:30 so I can be done before the heat becomes unbearable. It is very frightening, especially because I’m doing it alone. For tomorrow’s walk, I have arranged to walk with another peregrina that I met in st Jean. I think finding someone to walk with, during this heat wave may also be a good idea. If you run into difficulties, there is someone there to help.

This is a good idea. I am also walking alone currently and have thought it would be nice to have someone to remind me to drink water (and vice versa). It's so easy to forget, esp if you don't have a hydration tube.

 

[J Willhaus]

Just met a set of two Norwegian pilgrims in the train station at Medina Del Campo. They took the train from San Sabastian.

They are taking the train to Santiago tonight due to the heat and will re-evaluate their options from there. Glad we stopped walking last week. I couldn't take the heat then and it was much cooler.

We are on our way to Avila tonight, then heading back towards Canfranc with a night in Zaragoza Thursday. Will be at the Canfranc Albergue by Friday afternoon. I think the temps will be better in the mountains, but you have to come down out of the clouds eventually to walk the Camino Aragones.

 

[Teej41]

While walking from Cajarc to Limogne-en_Quercy on the Le Puy in mid-Sept 2019, I got severely dehydrated - and it happened quickly. At first I thought I was just having an off day, had low energy, but I arrived at the municipal gíte exhausted, fried and dehydrated (not just the "I'm thirsty" kind of dehydrated but something more).

That night I was unusually tired, almost to the point of being sick. That's when I realized had teetered dangerously close to potential heatstroke.

Needless to say, the next day I took it much easier

It's good that you eventually realised what the cause was. These are lessons that we don't ever forget aren't they? I was 17 when I fell victim to the symptoms you describe, in my case ascending 4400 feet of steep mountainside with the sun beating down behind me and no cover for head nor neck. I'm now 69 and have never again suffered from heatstroke. I started on the Camino F in Sept 2019 finishing on October 31 in Finistera. Thoroughly enjoyable, the whole experience.

 

[RJM]

Hydrate....at least three liters daily in this type of heat. Drink a 500 ml bottle before you leave in the morning to start walking.
Loose, lightweight clothing made for the sun and heat. Think shirts and pants that sport fisherman wear.
Good sunhat.
Frequent breaks in the shade.
Lightest pack possible.
No alcohol until your finished for the day and have recovered and hydrated.
If you need to finish earlier than planned some days because the heat is kicking your butt, do it. There's no shame in that. It's okay to make a short day.

 

[JabbaPapa]

It's hard, but from having had sunstroke several times, prevention is basically knowing the symptoms, and then removing yourself from the source of it. Which you are pretty much incapable of first couple of times, as it is a consciousness-altering condition.

Last time I was at risk of it was in Catalonia last year, out in the middle of nowhere and so pretty much worst conditions, but dumping myself down in the narrow shade of a farm building for 4-6 hours, then hobbling 1K to some more serious shade from a warehouse building and not budging therefrom 'til better did avoid it.

As to drinking advice, listen to your own body, not to others. If you're not thirsty don't drink. As to no alcohol, wine or stronger is probably a bad idea, but sometimes the anti-inflammatory qualities of a low alcohol % beer can help. And I do mean low alcohol. Not anything you'd take to get drunk.

 

[Rita Flower]

Make your own shade. Carry a parasol -- an umbrella. Preferably a lightweight one with UV protection. Buen Camino

I have read that the reflective umbrellas make a huge difference and can significantly reduce dehydration. There are some 'umbrella posts' on the forum. I have just purchased one for VdlP in September.

 

[dougfitz]

@Gerard Griffin, I think there is a more compelling need for pilgrims to make sensible decisions about their behaviour than there is for local governments to provide additional facilities. Your suggestions seem to imply that local governments should give some priority to rescuing pilgrims from the effects of perhaps more risky decisions than they have to meet the needs of their residents. My view is that holding such a notion is fanciful.

first, there's an urgent necessity for shelters to be set up at intervals on Camino stretches which require them. A simple 4 posts plus roof and bench would do. This is essential on the VDP and with the new normal of summer heatwaves, on sections of the CF as well.

No. There is a more compelling need for pilgrims to not put themselves at risk for the conditions they face over the course of any particular day. If, and only if, local governments have sufficient spare funds to contemplate building such shelters, it might be an option for them to do so.

Clearly many pilgrims need to be compelled not to walk in dangerous circumstances, as evidenced by the winter closure of the Route Napoleon at the French border. I don't think high temperatures are all that much different. Perhaps local or regional governments should close walking routes other than for locals when the AEMET issues high temperature warnings, such as those currently in place for much of Spain. Here is the current map of temperature warnings for the next three days: https://www.aemet.es/en/eltiempo/prediccion/avisos.

Second, we need to eliminate the risk on the CF posed by pilgrims not finding a bed and bring obliged to walk on to the next albergue in the afternoon heat. Every town needs emergency overflow accommodation in the summer, an easy thing for the local government to organise I think.

This is another fanciful notion that seems to shift responsibility for their accommodation from the individual pilgrim to an amorphous government entity. It is clearly a pilgrim's responsibility to find a place to sleep, not anyone else's responsibility to provide accommodation for them. Clearly a variety of local government, parish and religious organisations have stepped up to assist pilgrims with accommodation over the years, as have a variety of commercial providers. This has made it possible to support even greater numbers of pilgrims, but it doesn't shift the underlying responsibility away from the pilgrim themselves.

Third, (and this is a bit of a stretch ...) Imagine a volunteer group of Camino Angels, in green tabards, walking and cycling Camino stages, with water, advice, basic medical help and a kind word for all. I don't know how many local people and walkers/cyclists would be up for this. Speaking personally, I'd do it in a flash.

I suggest that if, as you say, you'd do this in a flash, we can expect to see your next posts coming from somewhere on the Camino Frances with your bicycle and support trailer tending to the needs of those pilgrims walking in the current heat? You might want to read about some of @David's work over the years. You can even wear a green vest should you wish to, although it might be worth purchasing something that is hi-vis.

 

[Bradypus]

@Gerard Griffin, I think there is a more compelling need for pilgrims to make sensible decisions about their behaviour than there is for local governments to provide additional facilities.

I agree completely. The primary responsibility for a pilgrim's safety lies with themselves. I find it hard to understand why the pilgrim office can have issued over 1800 Compostelas today when temperatures in Galicia have reached 40C. Is walking in these conditions a wise decision regardless of any provision of shade or overflow accommodation the local authorities might make?

 

[Eddiebee]

I have been accused of racing for a bed because I walked from 6am until 1pm. I was afraid of the heat during the middle of the day. Last month it got really hot from 2pm until around 8pm. At my age, I took frequent rest stops and drank lots of water. Please be careful out there.

 

[CreationRamblers]

Hello! My family (two fit older teens and my wife) and I are heading out to begin the Camino Frances planning to start on this Friday 15 July in SJPP. The heat, of course, looks brutal. We're New Englanders, and it's been a relatively mild summer here so far. We've hiked in the White Mountains in the past so not too anxious about elevation gain, although I'm a bit out of shape having broken 4 ribs in Feb which took long to recover (these 50 year old bodies don't heal as fast as they used to) and friends feeding me a bit too much. I've pre-booked us the first three nights out (to Pamplona after which we hope to get off the encourage stage stops).

So the question: what advice do you have on the potential heat for the first three days or so of our Camino? Leave early in the day (ie 5:30) to avoid it? Take a taxi to Roncesvalles and reassess each day? Delay in Saint Jean through the weekend until the heat breaks? Something else? We'll be carrying enough water and will have electrolytes with us, as well as cooling towels...

Many thanks for your input.

My Husband and I finished our first Camino (the Portuguese, Senda Litoral) last month, we found that Magnesium wafers with Zinc (the ones that dissolve in water) helped our bodies greatly, the aches & gave us more energy to last, even on the hot days. You can find them in any of the local farmacia's (Pharmacy's along the way)... also our cooling gel neck wraps helped a lot! R&M~

 

[dbier]

Having seen part of an an earlier question...in the US, most running stores have electrolyte powders of varying strengths for endurance walkers/woggers/joggers/runners.

Gatorade, DripDrop, Verb, Orgain, LMNT ( this last is the no-sugar MackDaddy of electrolyte powders)... and those are only off the top of my head. Most replace sodium, plus potassium and magnesium. Some add calcium to the mix. I've suffered from lack of all of them, at one time or another Try one before bringing.

As for low alcohol beer, between the carbs, the cooling liquid, and traces of all of these minerals plus a bunch more, it actually is an excellent post workout drink for replacing electrolytes. (There's a reason why Guinness used to be marketed as "Guinness for strength...though it had more to do with the iron content.

 

[CreationRamblers]

My Husband and I finished our first Camino (the Portuguese, Senda Litoral) last month, we found that Magnesium wafers with Zinc (the ones that dissolve in water) helped our bodies greatly, the aches & gave us more energy to last, even on the hot days. You can find them in any of the local farmacia's (Pharmacy's along the way)... also our cooling gel neck wraps helped a lot! R&M~

 

[chinacat]

Some years ago there was an experiment performed on BBC TV.
The outcome was that Milk is the most effective post-exercise rehydration liquid.
It was cow’s milk and I think it was semi-skimmed.

I don’t touch the stuff, so carry minerals, or occasionally, rehydration sachets.

 

[Gerry O]

Some days are good for walking and some days are good for sitting and talking ...we have to make sensible choices in life and when the heat is belting down we need to be very sensible

 

[JabbaPapa]

I came close to heat stroke in August 2016. I was very fortunate that day to survive.

Sunstroke alone is rarely life-threatening, if it's not compounded by other factors. It is vital to get yourself into the shade ASAP, then to recover from it in some cool, calm, and quiet over at least 24 hours - - which in my experience the excited and pro-active emergency services do not provide, from the qualities of their engagement that are necessary in nearly all other cases.

On the Camino, unless you're well off the beaten path, you usually won't be completely alone to deal with it, and in most cases a quiet rest day will be sufficient to recover from it. In worse cases, two or three days.

If you're anywhere near tarmac, you can get to it and flag down the first passing vehicle for emergency assistance. Get yourself into the cool and dark, and just rest - - this is the basic treatment, don't let anyone force water into you, but drink only according to your actual thirst. Cold shower, but ONLY after you've already been outside of the sun and heat for about 3-4 HOURS, and your body has already cooled off somewhat. Otherwise, you can risk a hydrocution, which can kill you.

I do understand that it can be worse for those with a heart condition and so on, and I have heard this year during the previous heat wave of pilgrims just dropping down dead, but as I am not a specialist doctor, I'm afraid I can provide no more than the above sort of general advice.

Start early in the cool, end early before the real heat starts, and take short days.

 

[JabbaPapa]

I agree completely. The primary responsibility for a pilgrim's safety lies with themselves. I find it hard to understand why the pilgrim office can have issued over 1800 Compostelas today when temperatures in Galicia have reached 40C. Is walking in these conditions a wise decision regardless of any provision of shade or overflow accommodation the local authorities might make?

Those are the afternoon temps, it's still cool enough in the mornings.

Nothing like the 2019 heat that forced a stop for me in Catalonia, as it was 25° to 28° C at night (3 AM), and 32°C immediately after sunrise, into the 40s over the morning.

That's the kind of heat that can kill even the young and healthy.

This year's heat waves have been more or less manageable.

 

[JabbaPapa]

What I've been doing in the two heat waves this year, is find a bar, escape from the heat therein, down some cool beers, then after a bit switch to tinto.

I am doing this right now, in Western Portugal, on my Way to Fátima.

 

[dougfitz]

Sunstroke alone is rarely life-threatening, if it's not compounded by other factors. It is vital to get yourself into the shade ASAP, then to recover from it in some cool, calm, and quiet over at least 24 hours - - which in my experience the excited and pro-active emergency services do not provide, from the qualities of their engagement that are necessary in nearly all other cases.

On the Camino, unless you're well off the beaten path, you usually won't be completely alone to deal with it, and in most cases a quiet rest day will be sufficient to recover from it. In worse cases, two or three days.

If you're anywhere near tarmac, you can get to it and flag down the first passing vehicle for emergency assistance. Get yourself into the cool and dark, and just rest - - this is the basic treatment, don't let anyone force water into you, but drink only according to your actual thirst. Cold shower, but ONLY after you've already been outside of the sun and heat for about 3-4 HOURS, and your body has already cooled off somewhat. Otherwise, you can risk a hydrocution, which can kill you.

I do understand that it can be worse for those with a heart condition and so on, and I have heard this year during the previous heat wave of pilgrims just dropping down dead, but as I am not a specialist doctor, I'm afraid I can provide no more than the above sort of general advice.

Start early in the cool, end early before the real heat starts, and take short days.

From a first-aid perspective, heatstroke is a medical emergency, and should be treated as such. What has been proposed here might be okay for someone suffering from heat exhaustion, but I wouldn't recommend it if you believe someone is suffering from heatstroke. The mere fact that someone might be able to contemplate doing what has been recommended here suggests to me that their heat stress hasn't progressed to the point of being heatstroke.

The difficulty I think we face if we come across someone who we think might be suffering from heatstroke is that one are unlikely to be carrying a thermometer, and will only have available the visible signs to guide us on what is appropriate first aid to offer. If someone is capable and willing to take appropriate action to reduce their heat stress, ie by getting to a cooler place, removing clothing and improvising a cold compress to start cooling themselves down, then further assistance may not be required. If someone isn't capable of doing those things, then action does need to be taken to assist them.

 

[Mananath]

I had my first 5am start today (Belorado to Ages) and it was definitely a good decision. It was quite chilly before the sun came up and by the time noon arrived my walking for the day had already ended. Short trip to Burgos tomorrow but after that I think 5am will be my go-to start.
A bonus treat this morning - a bright red, full moon just before it dipped below the horizon.

 

[katie@camino]

Three points: first, there's an urgent necessity for shelters to be set up at intervals on Camino stretches which require them. A simple 4 posts plus roof and bench would do. This is essential on the VDP and with the new normal of summer heatwaves, on sections of the CF as well.

Second, we need to eliminate the risk on the CF posed by pilgrims not finding a bed and bring obliged to walk on to the next albergue in the afternoon heat. Every town needs emergency overflow accommodation in the summer, an easy thing for the local government to organise I think.

Third, (and this is a bit of a stretch ...) Imagine a volunteer group of Camino Angels, in green tabards, walking and cycling Camino stages, with water, advice, basic medical help and a kind word for all. I don't know how many local people and walkers/cyclists would be up for this. Speaking personally, I'd do it in a flash.

I've been walking PLR, Estella, Los Arcos & Logroño during the current heat wave and La Guardia Civil has been very visible and active, doing patrols, and going out of their way to tell pilgrims about the emergencu 062 number. It's been really impressive and heartening.

 

[katie@camino]

Those are the afternoon temps, it's still cool enough in the mornings.

Nothing like the 2019 heat that forced a stop for me in Catalonia, as it was 25° to 28° C at night (3 AM), and 32°C immediately after sunrise, into the 40s over the morning.

That's the kind of heat that can kill even the young and healthy.

This year's heat waves have been more or less manageable.

Yes, we've been walking at 5am (tomorrow will be 4am - full moon!) and it's been extremely pleasant. We try to arrive by around 10am and it's doable - not forever but while we ride out the heatwave.

Also I'm limiting walking to 20-ish kms and using buses for the extra kms plus utilising pack transport.

The toughest bit is the warm nights - sleep isn't easy to come by, so prioriting places with air con...even though Spanish air con isn't the best (living in Singapore and Abu Dhabi makes me a bit spoilt with air con!).

Hopefully only a few more days of managing these extreme conditions.

 

[JabbaPapa]

From a first-aid perspective, heatstroke is a medical emergency, and should be treated as such. What has been proposed here might be okay for someone suffering from heat exhaustion, but I wouldn't recommend it if you believe someone is suffering from heatstroke. The mere fact that someone might be able to contemplate doing what has been recommended here suggests to me that their heat stress hasn't progressed to the point of being heatstroke.

The difficulty I think we face if we come across someone who we think might be suffering from heatstroke is that one are unlikely to be carrying a thermometer, and will only have available the visible signs to guide us on what is appropriate first aid to offer. If someone is capable and willing to take appropriate action to reduce their heat stress, ie by getting to a cooler place, removing clothing and improvising a cold compress to start cooling themselves down, then further assistance may not be required. If someone isn't capable of doing those things, then action does need to be taken to assist them.

That's a great post, though there's some degree of cross purposes.

What to do in the heat being just as much what to do for oneself as what one might do for others.

Heat exhaustion is a lot easier either way, especially its mildest manifestation as "hot and tired", as basic advice for it is "rest in the cool and shade".

But there are various degrees of sunstroke, and unless you get the full-on really bad type, losing consciousness and so on, or otherwise debilitated to the point of powerlessness, then there are actions that you can hopefully take to diminish it that won't always rely on a third party, though of course on any Camino, the needed cool, shaded, rest day always will.

And well, advice on how to avoid it, and heat exhaustion, in the first place is intrinsically worthwhile, as shown by the several contributors to the thread.

As I said though, your first aid perspective is great, it's just that the only person I've ever come across to suffer from sunstroke is me ; so I'm biased !!

 

[dougfitz]

What to do in the heat being just as much what to do for oneself as what one might do for others.

@JabbaPapa, you are correct. My contributions have been through the eyes of a first-aider, and not on the self-care that would go to avoiding becoming so heat stressed as to require external assistance.

And to the extent that I have, like you, had to assess whether am suffering from heat exhaustion and now edging towards heat stroke, catching oneself from getting more exhausted is a far preferable path than pushing on heedless of the eventual consequences.

 

[Friend from Barquinha]

Hello! My family (two fit older teens and my wife) and I are heading out to begin the Camino Frances planning to start on this Friday 15 July in SJPP. The heat, of course, looks brutal. We're New Englanders, and it's been a relatively mild summer here so far. We've hiked in the White Mountains in the past so not too anxious about elevation gain, although I'm a bit out of shape having broken 4 ribs in Feb which took long to recover (these 50 year old bodies don't heal as fast as they used to) and friends feeding me a bit too much. I've pre-booked us the first three nights out (to Pamplona after which we hope to get off the encourage stage stops).

So the question: what advice do you have on the potential heat for the first three days or so of our Camino? Leave early in the day (ie 5:30) to avoid it? Take a taxi to Roncesvalles and reassess each day? Delay in Saint Jean through the weekend until the heat breaks? Something else? We'll be carrying enough water and will have electrolytes with us, as well as cooling towels...

Many thanks for your input.

Update from the Spanish authorities on record highs on the 13th:

(from Twitter/"Extreme Temperatures Around the World

Record hot day in Spain: -Madrid Retiro Tmin 26.2C highest Min. on records -Talavera de la Reina 44.8C Castilla La Mancha -Candeleda 45.1C arguably highest reliable temp. for Castilla y Leon New records: Ourense (Galicia) 44.1C Zamora 41.8C Navacerrada 33.4C More to come...
https://twitter.com/extremetemps/status/1547681589781360640/photo/1

 

[Friend from Barquinha]

Hello! My family (two fit older teens and my wife) and I are heading out to begin the Camino Frances planning to start on this Friday 15 July in SJPP. The heat, of course, looks brutal. We're New Englanders, and it's been a relatively mild summer here so far. We've hiked in the White Mountains in the past so not too anxious about elevation gain, although I'm a bit out of shape having broken 4 ribs in Feb which took long to recover (these 50 year old bodies don't heal as fast as they used to) and friends feeding me a bit too much. I've pre-booked us the first three nights out (to Pamplona after which we hope to get off the encourage stage stops).

So the question: what advice do you have on the potential heat for the first three days or so of our Camino? Leave early in the day (ie 5:30) to avoid it? Take a taxi to Roncesvalles and reassess each day? Delay in Saint Jean through the weekend until the heat breaks? Something else? We'll be carrying enough water and will have electrolytes with us, as well as cooling towels...

Many thanks for your input.

Input seen today on Twitter / Extreme Temperatures Around the World

Record hot day in Spain (yesterday):
-Madrid Retiro Tmin 26.2C highest Min. on records
-Talavera de la Reina 44.8C Castilla La Mancha
-Candeleda 45.1C arguably highest reliable temp. for Castilla y Leon
New records:
Ourense (Galicia) 44.1C
Zamora 41.8C
Navacerrada 33.4C


https://twitter.com/extremetemps/status/1547681589781360640/photo/1

 

[JabbaPapa]

Highest temp I'm aware of in Camino area Europe was a 2019 measure of 52.5°C in Marseilles. One week after a halt on my current Camino in Lleida that year, a village nearby that place had a temp of 50°C+, and IIRC it was the same week as the Marseilles one.

This year is liveable by comparison ...

 

[Mananath]

Yes, we've been walking at 5am (tomorrow will be 4am - full moon!) and it's been extremely pleasant. We try to arrive by around 10am and it's doable - not forever but while we ride out the heatwave.

Also I'm limiting walking to 20-ish kms and using buses for the extra kms plus utilising pack transport.

The toughest bit is the warm nights - sleep isn't easy to come by, so prioriting places with air con...even though Spanish air con isn't the best (living in Singapore and Abu Dhabi makes me a bit spoilt with air con!).

Hopefully only a few more days of managing these extreme conditions.

I am quickly discovering that "central air" is really not the same as having a unit in your room that you can control yourself!

 

[CWBuff]

Just to add from my own experience recently completing my 1st Frances May 21 - June 25 so...yup in the oft-mentioned "early and unexpected" heatwave.
1st day SJPdP to Orisson and subsequently to Roncesvalles the temps hit 95. At some point on Meseta well into 100s and IIRC in Camponaraya the Farmacia showed 105

My typical day (granted further into Camino when I sort-of finally figured out what's what)
start walking 6:00-6:30 AM (I never went out earlier than that if anything simply because I did not wanted to deal with the murky dawn light)
try to limit the distance to about 20km (this way I would comfortably be at my next Albergue by 1:00-2:00PM) just in time to check in in most of them thus avoiding the combination of scorching sun (which by now is just brutal) and Siesta
Fill my 3L camelback with about 2.5L and keeping a good eye on it refilling as often as possible and sucking on that water almost every 10 mins or so
Supplement with KAS Lemon during 1-2 breaks (more or less a perfunctory purchase in order to get a sello - and might as well hydrate at the minimal cost)
NO ALCOHOL while walking (Reward myself with some nice Lemon Cerveza or 2 in the evening)
Roughly from 8:00am on (so more or less after 1st break) apply 50SPF sunblock and lip balm - repeat as often as needed
I wore nothing special as far as clothing - your typical fast dry sport T-shirts, travel pants (that convert to shorts and I was walking doing 2-days pants 2-days shorts pattern) and a Columbia travel vest. Teva hiking boots interchangeable with Keen Sandals (still got blisters and had to deal with those). Wide brimmed hat and around 10:00am a Buff-type square bandana would come out and I would fashion it in such way as to completely cover the back of my head and neck (simply make a 'babushka' on my head and then put the hat on top of that thus securing it)
Move any extra weight forward (i.e. use baggage transfer) and walk with as light of the load as possible
Never felt that I needed to use an umbrella but I am definitely not knocking down those who do

Here are couple of pictures

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The Irish family I walked out of Belorado with Margaret, Kieran, Declund and Neve. Margaret and Declund have done portions of Camino before but this is the ...

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Good Luck and Buen Camino!

 

[Peter Fransiscus]

El día que pasará a la «historia meteorolóxica galega»: 44 grados de Ourense y casi 6.000 rayos por toda Galicia

MeteoGalicia registró anoche episodios de «chuvia torrencial» en zonas de Ourense y el sur de Lugo

www.lavozdegalicia.es

 

[Suz2022]

Hello! My family (two fit older teens and my wife) and I are heading out to begin the Camino Frances planning to start on this Friday 15 July in SJPP. The heat, of course, looks brutal. We're New Englanders, and it's been a relatively mild summer here so far. We've hiked in the White Mountains in the past so not too anxious about elevation gain, although I'm a bit out of shape having broken 4 ribs in Feb which took long to recover (these 50 year old bodies don't heal as fast as they used to) and friends feeding me a bit too much. I've pre-booked us the first three nights out (to Pamplona after which we hope to get off the encourage stage stops).

So the question: what advice do you have on the potential heat for the first three days or so of our Camino? Leave early in the day (ie 5:30) to avoid it? Take a taxi to Roncesvalles and reassess each day? Delay in Saint Jean through the weekend until the heat breaks? Something else? We'll be carrying enough water and will have electrolytes with us, as well as cooling towels...

Many thanks for your input.

I'm preparing in Maine, where we're in a severe drought, no humidity, and reaching low 90s F (hot for here). In addition to the great advice I've seen here, my best discovery is to "pre-hydrate." I drink 12-16 oz of water as soon as I wake up, and have another big glass before I head out. I also try to skip that 2nd or 3rd large mug of coffee. The day I didn't do this, I ended up pretty woozy about 15km into my walking.

 

[Michael55]

I'm preparing in Maine, where we're in a severe drought, no humidity, and reaching low 90s F (hot for here). In addition to the great advice I've seen here, my best discovery is to "pre-hydrate." I drink 12-16 oz of water as soon as I wake up, and have another big glass before I head out. I also try to skip that 2nd or 3rd large mug of coffee. The day I didn't do this, I ended up pretty woozy about 15km into my walking.

That was my method on valenca to Fatima pilgrimage I just finished July 11. I drank a liter of water before walking out the door before 6am when the heat wave hit. There was a hard day in Ourem where I got there by noon also my practice but had booked a room at the castle an hour more uphill in now 100+ temp. I just went very slow taking 4 breaks, 2 with boots and socks off for ten minutes. It was doable for me but we all have different bodies.

 

[Rambling Priest]

Hello! My family (two fit older teens and my wife) and I are heading out to begin the Camino Frances planning to start on this Friday 15 July in SJPP. The heat, of course, looks brutal. We're New Englanders, and it's been a relatively mild summer here so far. We've hiked in the White Mountains in the past so not too anxious about elevation gain, although I'm a bit out of shape having broken 4 ribs in Feb which took long to recover (these 50 year old bodies don't heal as fast as they used to) and friends feeding me a bit too much. I've pre-booked us the first three nights out (to Pamplona after which we hope to get off the encourage stage stops).

So the question: what advice do you have on the potential heat for the first three days or so of our Camino? Leave early in the day (ie 5:30) to avoid it? Take a taxi to Roncesvalles and reassess each day? Delay in Saint Jean through the weekend until the heat breaks? Something else? We'll be carrying enough water and will have electrolytes with us, as well as cooling towels...

Many thanks for your input.

So we’re 10 days in and the heat has regulated. Currently in Belorado and having a great Camino.

I wanted to let people know what we did: from SJPDP we caught a ride to Roncesvalles. We then grabbed our packs and climbed to the Collader de Lepoeder under the shade there. Steep and warm but we were grateful to have the view and to know we could turn back if needed. We got a number of questioning looks since we were headed the wrong way for a bit but it was a great start for our Camino. And since it topped out over 100 that day a very smart decision for us.

Thanks again for all the responses.

 

[Bob Howard]

So we’re 10 days in and the heat has regulated. Currently in Belorado and having a great Camino.

I wanted to let people know what we did: from SJPDP we caught a ride to Roncesvalles. We then grabbed our packs and climbed to the Collader de Lepoeder under the shade there. Steep and warm but we were grateful to have the view and to know we could turn back if needed. We got a number of questioning looks since we were headed the wrong way for a bit but it was a great start for our Camino. And since it topped out over 100 that day a very smart decision for us.

Thanks again for all the responses.

Currently in Villafranca del Bierzo. La heat wave est finis.