ffp13
Addicted pilgrim
- Feb 15, 2011
- 521
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- Completed Caminos: 2009 SJPP, 2011 Roncessvalle , 2012 Pamploma, 2013 Roncessvalle, 2013 Porto, 2014 Burgos, 2014 Porto
Future: Roncessvalle
We have been following this and a thought has occurred to us. Is it in fact the oven that has to be disabled, (the cocina) rather than the kitchen as a whole? The reason being safety as too many pilgrims were using them to dry their clothes. Terry saw a warning about this 3 years ago.ffp13 said:The Ferreiros xunta albergue seem to have ignored the Xunta directive to empty and disable the pilgrims kitchen,
Are there others that are still equiped and functioning?
Rebekah Scott said:"Whatever their motive for this it is not acceptable, many of us are travelling on a budget, have particular dietary requirements or both as in my case or perhaps just want to cook for themselves and others as it's a nice thing to do. We should contact the authority to request they provide these facilities for those who need/want them."
Not acceptable? No one HAS to provide pilgrim albergues, much less kitchenware, kitchens, gas, electricity, water, toilets, beds, and all the rest. Pilgrims are entitled to NOTHING. If there´s a place to stay, it´s because someone made an effort to make it happen for you. But for a pilgrim to say it´s "not acceptable," and to cry "budget" to municipalities struggling to keep their own streets paved and lights burning, well... you can always just go home, pilgrim. Back where all these things are acceptably provided to you, no doubt, on a donativo basis.
A tourist demands. A pilgrim asks how he can help. And the kitchenware is usually "stripped" by your fellow pilgrims...
piogaw said:Thank you all to everyone who have spoken out on behalf of the albergues - be it xunta, municipal, parochial, local or regional. Special thanks to rebekah, caminogen, priscillian, sandra, falcon, laurie who all have the courage to speak out against the excessive demands of some of the new waves of peregrino.
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Camino12 said:If one hasn't sufficient money to walk the Camino , then stay at home until you have sufficient means. The Camino will always be there. Maybe you are not meant to walk it at this time.
Sandra
ffp13 said:piogaw said:Thank you all to everyone who have spoken out on behalf of the albergues - be it xunta, municipal, parochial, local or regional. Special thanks to rebekah, caminogen, priscillian, sandra, falcon, laurie who all have the courage to speak out against the excessive demands of some of the new waves of peregrino.
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I take offence in your suggestion that the new wave pilgrims are less worthy than those who have walked in the past.
There is nothing wrong with pilgrims asking questions, after all this is a forum, and different points of view should allowed to be expressed.
is saying that"excessive demands of some"
the new wave pilgrims are less worthy than those who have walked in the past.
Rebekah Scott said:"Whatever their motive for this it is not acceptable, many of us are travelling on a budget, have particular dietary requirements or both as in my case or perhaps just want to cook for themselves and others as it's a nice thing to do. We should contact the authority to request they provide these facilities for those who need/want them."
Not acceptable? No one HAS to provide pilgrim albergues, much less kitchenware, kitchens, gas, electricity, water, toilets, beds, and all the rest. Pilgrims are entitled to NOTHING. If there´s a place to stay, it´s because someone made an effort to make it happen for you. But for a pilgrim to say it´s "not acceptable," and to cry "budget" to municipalities struggling to keep their own streets paved and lights burning, well... you can always just go home, pilgrim. Back where all these things are acceptably provided to you, no doubt, on a donativo basis.
A tourist demands. A pilgrim asks how he can help. And the kitchenware is usually "stripped" by your fellow pilgrims...
ffp13 said:Terry B
I have read the post again that I had commented on, and I concur that I misinterpreted what was said.
My view is that you are I entitled to whatever you want on the Camino, as long as you are prepared to pay full price. If you pay less than full price then you are receiving charity, and those in receipt of charity should not be too choosy (within reason) reasonable expectations should not be confused as a sense of entitlement.