May-June Camino Frances - Rain Gear & Eating ware

[misspenn2519]

Hello all - thank you all so much for all of the guidance on what is not my only first camino but first hike over about 5 miles! I've headed a lot of advice about backpacks and trekking poles and the major stuff, now I'm getting down to the nitty gritty small things that may make a huge difference or may be left out to keep pack light.

First - Shoes - I'm choosing to use a pair of broken in but very good quality Salomon Speed Cross 3 and I've read that they offer zero water-proofness, but they are comfortable for me and broken in and I don't know how much rain I can expect to encounter on an approx May 20-July 6 trek. Should I buy those silicone shoe liners, just tough out the wet feet, spray silicone?

Also on the topic of no knowing how much rain to expect and trying to pack lightly, do I really need a rain jacket, or will a "water-resistent hiking jacket" and a poncho that covers myself and the backpack do?

Also, I've opted for a straw sun hat instead of waterproof fisherman's style bucket hat - had idea? Can I spray waterproofing silicone on that too?

Lastly, I've read I should always have a spork on hand, and I did buy a Onelli 6cm blade which I've read should pass but depends on the officer you get... What about a lightweight expandable silicone cup and bowl? Together, they weigh 5oz.

Also, I have a very small cool bag; 4oz; I've ready that it's hard to keep food fresh on the trail in between towns with no markets. Worth the weight when my max is approx 12lbs?

Thanks so much!

 

[Jarrad]

Shoes: You're fine. Forget the shoe liners unless they improve the fit.

Rain jacket: Stand in the shower with your proposed rain shell on and see if that works for you. I suspect it will not. The decision for you is actually whether to get a rain jacket or a poncho. Search Altus on the forum for no end of discussion on this highly lauded poncho that also covers your pack.

Straw sun hat: I can't imagine making a straw sun hat waterproof by spraying silicone on it, but maybe try it and give it the shower test. I personally do not think you need a waterproof hat in addition to a poncho or rain jacket.

I don't think you need a plate or utensils on the CdF, but others will disagree because that's what we do here on the forum. I bring neither and have never been inconvenienced. Those extra ounces and grams add up to pounds and kilograms, IMHO.

Food bag: I use a 1-gallon Zip-loc bag and, honestly, rarely use it. There's no end of fresh food available all along the way. I have a habit of grabbing sandwiches and bananas, throwing them in my pack, and forgetting they're there until the smell enlightens me days later.

You'll be fine. You've totally got this. Buen Camino!

 

[misspenn2519]

Hello all - thank you all so much for all of the guidance on what is not my only first camino but first hike over about 5 miles! I've headed a lot of advice about backpacks and trekking poles and the major stuff, now I'm getting down to the nitty gritty small things that may make a huge difference or may be left out to keep pack light.

First - Shoes - I'm choosing to use a pair of broken in but very good quality Salomon Speed Cross 3 and I've read that they offer zero water-proofness, but they are comfortable for me and broken in and I don't know how much rain I can expect to encounter on an approx May 20-July 6 trek. Should I buy those silicone shoe liners, just tough out the wet feet, spray silicone?

Also on the topic of no knowing how much rain to expect and trying to pack lightly, do I really need a rain jacket, or will a "water-resistent hiking jacket" and a poncho that covers myself and the backpack do?

Also, I've opted for a straw sun hat instead of waterproof fisherman's style bucket hat - had idea? Can I spray waterproofing silicone on that too?

Lastly, I've read I should always have a spork on hand, and I did buy a Onelli 6cm blade which I've read should pass but depends on the officer you get... What about a lightweight expandable silicone cup and bowl? Together, they weigh 5oz.

Also, I have a very small cool bag; 4oz; I've ready that it's hard to keep food fresh on the trail in between towns with no markets. Worth the weight when my max is approx 12lbs?

Thanks so much!

I actually just looked at the bottle I'm thinking of spraying the hat and shoes with - it's Scotchgard, not silicone! Any thoughts on that? I'd hate to buy a new stiff pair of hiking boots when I'm so comfortable in my trail runners and they have great grip. I could always buy some zinc oxide tape to tape my ankles if I think I'm not getting enough ankel support.... How hilly is the Route Frances after the Pyrenees?

Sorry for all of the questions!

 

[trecile]

Forget about waterproof shoes or boots. There's a good chance that they would make your feet hot and sweaty in May and June. Plus, water will still get in if it's raining heavily enough, and they will take much longer to dry out than non-waterproof shoes.

 

[SeñorJacques]

I actually just looked at the bottle I'm thinking of spraying the hat and shoes with - it's Scotchgard, not silicone! Any thoughts on that?

Scotchguard will protect against stains and spills, but will do nothing to make a straw hat or shoes waterproof. As @trecile said, if it's raining your shoes are still going to get wet no matter what — the thing to worry about is how quickly they'll dry afterwards.

I'd hate to buy a new stiff pair of hiking boots when I'm so comfortable in my trail runners and they have great grip. I could always buy some zinc oxide tape to tape my ankles if I think I'm not getting enough ankel support.... How hilly is the Route Frances after the Pyrenees?

All things considered I think sticking with your tried and true trail runners is the best option, particulalrly if you value their grippiness. There are ups and downs most of the way to Santiago (except for the Meseta, of course) but you can always tape your ankle(s) if you feel you need the extra support for those. You might want to consider a pair of walking poles, which will also provide support while walking and help you negotiate those ups and downs — especially the downs, which I found even more challenging.

And no need to apologize for the questions! If there's one thing most of us on here love more than walking the Camino, it's answering questions about it.

 

[SeñorJacques]

PS - I took a lightweight spork and camping mug with me on my Camino two years ago, and ended up using them exactly never. I won't be taking either on my second walk next month. I know some folks find them useful, but as I always found that a fork was provided every time I ordered a tortilla de patate I don't think I'll have to worry about having to eat with my hands. And there always seemed to be a mug available if I wanted to make a cup of tea when staying at an albergue. I doubt very much you'll find a use for a bowl during your walk either.

 

[J Willhaus]

I carry a microwavable cup and a spork on each Camino and I do use them. I make instant coffee for myself in the morning and the spork I use for yogurt or instant soup. If you eat out all the time, you may not need them though.

Edit: In Galicia the government supported albergues have no cookware, plates, etc, there are usually very nicely equipped kitchens.

 

[DoughnutANZ]

No raincoat or poncho is going to keep you and your clothes dry for anything more than 10 minutes of decent rain.

Instead of a raincoat I take a very lightweight shell jacket to keep most of the wind out and quick drying tops.

At that time of year I wear shorts because skin is waterproof.

Do have one or more lightweight dry-bags in your backpack for your dry clothes and then when you arrive somewhere wet you can simply change into dry clothes and your wet clothes will dry quickly.

At that time of year it will almost invariably be warm everywhere except for the Pyrenees.

Ditch the collapsible dinnerware and cool bag.



Don't overthink and especially don't over pack.

 

[woody66]

Stick with what you have i only wear non waterproof Hoka trail runners!
You will find they dry quicker .
Your feet get wet whatever shoes/boots
I use Seal skinz waterproof ankle socks (20000mm Hydrostatic Head) kept my feet dry for 6-7 hours in pouring rain; rain stopped changed out my socks back in the wet runners shoes dried in about 45 mins walking!
Zip lock for food snacks.
Defo do the shower test (for quite a while) my second Haglof LIM jacket leaked badly at the back of the hood; find out before you go!

 

[markie6]

take the spork. Zip lock bags for food. If it rains, as others have pointed out... it's the time it takes stuff to dry that is more of the problem.

Cover for your pack and shoes that you are used to.

 

[domigee]

Lastly, I've read I should always have a spork on hand, and I did buy a Onelli 6cm blade which I've read should pass but depends on the officer you get... What about a lightweight expandable silicone cup and bowl? Together, they weigh 5oz.

Also, I have a very small cool bag; 4oz; I've ready that it's hard to keep food fresh on the trail in between towns with no markets. Worth the weight when my max is approx 12lbs?

Thanks so much!

Forget the spork, forget the cool bag. Even on less travelled caminos. Imo!

 

[jrataiclang]

It rained a lot on my first Camino Frances, May-June, 2013. I had a large brimmed Tilley hat and it kept the rain off my glasses. Since I need them to see, I found the hat very helpful. I have always worn a hat since then. I take it off and hang on my pack if I don't need it, but use it in the rain. I also wore waterproof hiking boots and in 3 Caminos only found the water went in them once, because it was streaming done my legs, and that was in October (2023) on the Ingles, when an Atlantic storm was crossing the Iberian peninsula. The rest of the time, my feet have stayed dry and comfortable, not blisters from wet socks rubbing on my feet. The boots have also helped with uneven surfaces, both when you are walking on bumpy things like roman roads, etc. and they provide ankle support.

 

[JerryStroebele]

Straw hat for the sun AND a UV umbrella for both sun and rain. Buen Camino

 

[lt56ny]

I actually just looked at the bottle I'm thinking of spraying the hat and shoes with - it's Scotchgard, not silicone! Any thoughts on that? I'd hate to buy a new stiff pair of hiking boots when I'm so comfortable in my trail runners and they have great grip. I could always buy some zinc oxide tape to tape my ankles if I think I'm not getting enough ankel support.... How hilly is the Route Frances after the Pyrenees?

Sorry for all of the questions!

Do NOT buy boots especially if they are not well broken in. Recipe for major blisters. Trail runners do not need to be broken in. You can wear them for a few days before on some hikes to make sure of the fit and there is nothing that is sticking you. I have walked alot of caminos and unless you have some structural need for boots they are not necessary at all. Trail runners are also so much lighter. If your feet get wet no biggie. Some say it can cause blisters but, speaking for myself I have not had this problem. When you get to the albergue, take out the insoles and stuff newspaper in your trail runners. They will be dry in the morning.

 

[Scott Fraser]

Hello all - thank you all so much for all of the guidance on what is not my only first camino but first hike over about 5 miles! I've headed a lot of advice about backpacks and trekking poles and the major stuff, now I'm getting down to the nitty gritty small things that may make a huge difference or may be left out to keep pack light.

First - Shoes - I'm choosing to use a pair of broken in but very good quality Salomon Speed Cross 3 and I've read that they offer zero water-proofness, but they are comfortable for me and broken in and I don't know how much rain I can expect to encounter on an approx May 20-July 6 trek. Should I buy those silicone shoe liners, just tough out the wet feet, spray silicone?

Also on the topic of no knowing how much rain to expect and trying to pack lightly, do I really need a rain jacket, or will a "water-resistent hiking jacket" and a poncho that covers myself and the backpack do?

Also, I've opted for a straw sun hat instead of waterproof fisherman's style bucket hat - had idea? Can I spray waterproofing silicone on that too?

Lastly, I've read I should always have a spork on hand, and I did buy a Onelli 6cm blade which I've read should pass but depends on the officer you get... What about a lightweight expandable silicone cup and bowl? Together, they weigh 5oz.

Also, I have a very small cool bag; 4oz; I've ready that it's hard to keep food fresh on the trail in between towns with no markets. Worth the weight when my max is approx 12lbs?

Thanks so much!

Hi,

Some brief comments:

Shoes - wet feet are no fun (blister risk goes way up), but odds are most of your Camino will be dry. Tradeoff comfort and fit for waterproof any day. However, a light weight compromise would be to consider a single pair of waterproof socks. See this review from Runner's World:

https://www.runnersworld.com/gear/g39432368/best-waterproof-socks/

I have used Sealskinz. They are not the most comfortable, but they keep your feet try. I use a light weight merino sock liner against the skin and the waterproof sock on top.

There is a link in this article above that reviews waterproof jackets as well. "Water resistant" translates to "wet inside" after the first 3 minutes under a thunder storm downpour . Waterproof gear is not cheap because of more expensive materials and more labor in assembling the jackets, i.e. taped seams. You will use a light weight rain jacket for other purposes on the Camino and at home as well. I bought a top-of-the-line waterproof jacket and I use it a lot at home.

Hats - On my first few casinos I used two hats: a broad brim cloth hat that rolls up for easy stowage in the pack on sunny days and a brimmed hat (in the US a "baseball" cap) for cloudy / rainy weather. If your rain jacket / poncho has a hood wear the brimmed cap under the hood to keep a rain off our face.
(This is especially important if you wear glasses). Over the last two casinos I have used a brimmed "legion hat" as my primary hat regardless of weather (see https://www.rei.com/product/208228/goldcoast-legion-hat ). (I still carry a second hat just in case I lose my primary.) I have found that the "skirt" on the legion hat is much more effective than a broad brim in keeping sun off my neck and ears.

Food bag: Skip it. I carry a few Ziplock bags for a variety of purposes, one of which is to store the piece of cheese you didn't finish, or a half-eaten apple. If you carry 1-2 gallon size bags you can put a sandwich or bits of lunch you get at a tienda. The bigger ziplocks are also useful for packing wet or dirty clothes in your pack.

Spork et al - Spork OK, weighs next to nothing. Light weight cup, yes -- it's good for sharing a bottle of wine and storing a hard boiled egg in your back pack. Bowl, skip it.

Cool bag - No need. Nothing is going to spoil over the course of a day.

Buen Camino....

 

[Jarrad]

I had a large brimmed Tilley hat

I love my Canadian neighbors with their Tilley hats! Seriously, Canadians have the most practical headgear on the Camino. This is not debatable.

 

[henrythedog]

I turned up in Santiago a couple of years ago along with a German Peregrino wearing a straw hat that was growing moss. The hat, not the Peregrino. Probably.

I’d stick with the straw hat.

 

[trecile]

I have used Sealskinz. They are not the most comfortable, but they keep your feet try. I use a light weight merino sock liner against the skin and the waterproof sock on top.

I use waterproof socks with hiking sandals. Since the waterproof socks are pretty bulky this is much more comfortable than wearing them with shoes, and the sandals dry fast.

 

[Camino Chrissy]

I love my Canadian neighbors with their Tilley hats! Seriously, Canadians have the most practical headgear on the Camino. This is not debatable.

I have a Tilley hat I bought two years ago on a whim when hiking in Sedona because it was pale gray like my hair and they can be folded and crushed in a pack, but never take it on the Camino. It just seems too robust and the brim is big. I don't exactly have a giraffe neck and my backpack is on the tall side with its top compartment and I know I would be annoyed if it kept touching my pack.

 

[sharonmonty]

Shoes: You're fine. Forget the shoe liners unless they improve the fit.

Rain jacket: Stand in the shower with your proposed rain shell on and see if that works for you. I suspect it will not. The decision for you is actually whether to get a rain jacket or a poncho. Search Altus on the forum for no end of discussion on this highly lauded poncho that also covers your pack.

Straw sun hat: I can't imagine making a straw sun hat waterproof by spraying silicone on it, but maybe try it and give it the shower test. I personally do not think you need a waterproof hat in addition to a poncho or rain jacket.

I don't think you need a plate or utensils on the CdF, but others will disagree because that's what we do here on the forum. I bring neither and have never been inconvenienced. Those extra ounces and grams add up to pounds and kilograms, IMHO.

Food bag: I use a 1-gallon Zip-loc bag and, honestly, rarely use it. There's no end of fresh food available all along the way. I have a habit of grabbing sandwiches and bananas, throwing them in my pack, and forgetting they're there until the smell enlightens me days later.

You'll be fine. You've totally got this. Buen Camino!

This is such a great post. No nonsense. I’m now going to stand in the shower with my rain jacket.

 

[Rita Flower]

Lots of good advice already so I will add a little of my research
All rain gear these days is breathable, which means in a real downpour you will get wet. The only type of rain gear that will keep you completely dry is some non-breathable plastic - Which would not be very comfortable to use and you’d probably get wet from your own sweat.
I found a combination of light showerproof jacket and short poncho excellent. I never used rain pants and if it was really raining, I wear shorts as leg dry easily.
A lot of people get very stressed out about wet feet and blisters - but I read an article that indicated that wet feet were not such a big problem. Perhaps if they are wet for a week and your shoes don’t try out it would be a problem but for a few hours or a day I don’t think so. I wear lightweight merino socks which work really well if feet and shoes get wet.
Food - As stated, lots of fresh food is available. I found that my four pack small yoghurts and a bit of cheese lasted quite well in my backpack for a few days (I put them in the fridge at night). That was the only food I ever carried that required refrigeration.
I wear a cap when I walk and find that’s enough for me. It also works really well In keeping water off your face and glasses when worn under the hood of any rain gear. The hood of raincoats or ponchos aren’t very protective of the face.
Lastly, I carried a small retractable knife and a plastic fork and spoon from my flight to Spain.
If you Luggage is carry on, you would have to buy the knife in Spain. I found very cute ones for about €5. Good for picnic lunches - cutting cheese and fruit and spooning yoghurt into my mouth.
However, on the Francis, while there are a few long stretches, you mostly can’t go more than 5 km without a café or bar so you will be fine.
Buen Camino

 

[Camino Chrissy]

This is such a great post. No nonsense. I’m now going to stand in the shower with my rain jacket.

Been there...done that.

 

[CWBuff]

This is such a great post. No nonsense. I’m now going to stand in the shower with my rain jacket.

What kind of soap\shampoo do you use?
I mean a post without nonsense.... come ON! what is the world coming to?

On a serious note as to OP's questions - many diferent opinions. I can add from my experience and not sure if it will help or confuse more.

No waterproofing your shoes and no buying new ones. Go with the tried and true and if you still worry too much - pack an extra 2-3 pairs of socks so you can change them if the pair you're wearing does become wet. Im my case - they became more damp when i walked in my original Lowa Renegades (great of fall\winter, not so great summer in scorching sun).

I had a leather wide-brimmed hat. not a straw hat. This way the sun did not sneaked up through the tiny holes.

No coolers! For what? Many albergues have some kind of a refrigerator that you can use to store something. It comes out quite 'cool' in the morning. I'd say if its fruit - eat it within 1st half of the day.
I did however got into habit of buying small bags of apples (I am 'an apple fiend') and nothing happened to them for a period of say 4 days. Grapes would last me 2, 3max. Hard boiled eggs (i'd keep then in the original carton after I boiled them) 3 days.... No cooler

I did being not only "a spork" but the fancy touristy eating utensils set - it would uncouple itself into 2 parts - one had a fork and the other spoon and a knife. Granted did not take any space in the backpack and perhaps "in case of emergency" (or what-have-you) might've come in handy but with all that said and done - times actually used NADA!

I had a water-resistant jacket from NorthFace and a cheap-o flimsy poncho that was a freebie from my 2006 Alaskan Cruise. you know something - it worked. Now again, I did not get hit with any monsoon-like weather (although Melide to Arzua was no picnic and then the next day Arzua to O Pedrouso was really something as the mud finally caught up with me!) but it definitely kept me reasonably protected.

Good luck and Buen Camino.

 

[trecile]

All rain gear these days is breathable,

Not all rain gear is breathable. The more waterproof a jacket or poncho is the less breathable it is.

 

[misspenn2519]

PS - I took a lightweight spork and camping mug with me on my Camino two years ago, and ended up using them exactly never. I won't be taking either on my second walk next month. I know some folks find them useful, but as I always found that a fork was provided every time I ordered a tortilla de patate I don't think I'll have to worry about having to eat with my hands. And there always seemed to be a mug available if I wanted to make a cup of tea when staying at an albergue. I doubt very much you'll find a use for a bowl during your walk either.

What about biodegradeable TP fo #2? Other essential toiletries I may forget?

 

[J Willhaus]

What about biodegradeable TP fo #2? Other essential toiletries I may forget?

Please take all TP with your in a plastic bag (and your #2 as well). You find plenty of TP and the rest of it behind rocks, trees, and sometimes right on the trail. There are whole threads on this. It takes a long time for biodegradable TP and non-biodegradable types to degrade.

 

[SeñorJacques]

What about biodegradeable TP fo #2? Other essential toiletries I may forget?

Never needed it personally but handy for emergencies. I would imagine. Just make sure you leave no trace on the trail and take all used material with you for proper disposal in the next trash bin you come across.

 

[misspenn2519]

What kind of soap\shampoo do you use?
I mean a post without nonsense.... come ON! what is the world coming to?

On a serious note as to OP's questions - many diferent opinions. I can add from my experience and not sure if it will help or confuse more.

No waterproofing your shoes and no buying new ones. Go with the tried and true and if you still worry too much - pack an extra 2-3 pairs of socks so you can change them if the pair you're wearing does become wet. Im my case - they became more damp when i walked in my original Lowa Renegades (great of fall\winter, not so great summer in scorching sun).

I had a leather wide-brimmed hat. not a straw hat. This way the sun did not sneaked up through the tiny holes.

No coolers! For what? Many albergues have some kind of a refrigerator that you can use to store something. It comes out quite 'cool' in the morning. I'd say if its fruit - eat it within 1st half of the day.
I did however got into habit of buying small bags of apples (I am 'an apple fiend') and nothing happened to them for a period of say 4 days. Grapes would last me 2, 3max. Hard boiled eggs (i'd keep then in the original carton after I boiled them) 3 days.... No cooler

I did being not only "a spork" but the fancy touristy eating utensils set - it would uncouple itself into 2 parts - one had a fork and the other spoon and a knife. Granted did not take any space in the backpack and perhaps "in case of emergency" (or what-have-you) might've come in handy but with all that said and done - times actually used NADA!

I had a water-resistant jacket from NorthFace and a cheap-o flimsy poncho that was a freebie from my 2006 Alaskan Cruise. you know something - it worked. Now again, I did not get hit with any monsoon-like weather (although Melide to Arzua was no picnic and then the next day Arzua to O Pedrouso was really something as the mud finally caught up with me!) but it definitely kept me reasonably protected.

Good luck and Buen Camino.

Thank you for all of this - you are so wonderful helping this newbie. Right now, my room likes like an Amazon and REI explosion bc I've bought every version of everything to text weight, what capacity of pack I need, etc. Of course I'd like to save as much money as possible but not if the gear I have is really not optimal for the Route Frances. I bought a Patagonia Torrent 3 rain shell; liked it a bit better than the Northface but it's also heavier. I had a dirt cheap poncho from a trip to honduras but it's just plastic and snaps on side and wasn't sure if would fit with my pack (I could still try that! I have 7 packs here now to try!) so I bought a new poncho by SophieRose. Weighs 11 oz in it's zippered pouch. Still really on the fence about the bladder; seems like so much extra weight if there is ample water all along the trail. Looking now to bring a solar charge battery bank - not bringing macbook air or tablet but need charging for my phone, my headlamp.. I think that's it. But I also bought a converter plug with USB ports that might be good enough for the day charge bc the power bank is 1.2lbs. I'm getting close (I hope) to finalizing my kit; Some zinc oxide arrived today take to help heal blisters and wrap my ankles if my trail runners are sufficient; I am taking trekking poles (bringing two bc they're only 8 oz each and with the pain I'm having in hips and joints from breast cancer therapies, I figure better being safe than sorry. Just not sure which accessories to bring with them apart from for sure an extra pair of rubber tips.

Sunscreen is another big one for me - I'm albino so need protection more than just face but that's a lot of weight too. Hoping I can do well in lighter weight long-sleeve shirts. I'm sure there's sunscreen along the way but far more expensive?

Lastly, I've booked accommodation all the way through Zubiri bc of how hard I'm finding bookings are to find. But I'm willing to lose them if I find I want to make a detour or spend extra time somewhere. Pamploma I'm sure will be difficult, but if I have to, I can pay for a nicer hotel.

This trek for me is really about the journey and making new friends along the way, as well as taking some time to walk alone to try to figure some things out after a very rough year. Want to make it as least physically demanding as possible bc I really want to try to not send my pack ahead.

 

[misspenn2519]

What kind of soap\shampoo do you use?
I mean a post without nonsense.... come ON! what is the world coming to?

On a serious note as to OP's questions - many diferent opinions. I can add from my experience and not sure if it will help or confuse more.

No waterproofing your shoes and no buying new ones. Go with the tried and true and if you still worry too much - pack an extra 2-3 pairs of socks so you can change them if the pair you're wearing does become wet. Im my case - they became more damp when i walked in my original Lowa Renegades (great of fall\winter, not so great summer in scorching sun).

I had a leather wide-brimmed hat. not a straw hat. This way the sun did not sneaked up through the tiny holes.

No coolers! For what? Many albergues have some kind of a refrigerator that you can use to store something. It comes out quite 'cool' in the morning. I'd say if its fruit - eat it within 1st half of the day.
I did however got into habit of buying small bags of apples (I am 'an apple fiend') and nothing happened to them for a period of say 4 days. Grapes would last me 2, 3max. Hard boiled eggs (i'd keep then in the original carton after I boiled them) 3 days.... No cooler

I did being not only "a spork" but the fancy touristy eating utensils set - it would uncouple itself into 2 parts - one had a fork and the other spoon and a knife. Granted did not take any space in the backpack and perhaps "in case of emergency" (or what-have-you) might've come in handy but with all that said and done - times actually used NADA!

I had a water-resistant jacket from NorthFace and a cheap-o flimsy poncho that was a freebie from my 2006 Alaskan Cruise. you know something - it worked. Now again, I did not get hit with any monsoon-like weather (although Melide to Arzua was no picnic and then the next day Arzua to O Pedrouso was really something as the mud finally caught up with me!) but it definitely kept me reasonably protected.

Good luck and Buen Camino.

Not sure if the shampoo question was serious or not but I bought an expensive bar of Viori tea tree mint essential oil made with rice water. Haven't figured out if this can also work to wash my body but that's next to figure out.

Bringing a tiny travel size Native Deoderant stick.

For toothpaste, I bought superbee dentos toothpaste tables; for laundry sheets to either use in a ziplock or the occasional washer, I bought Eco Laundry Detergent sheets.

For electrolyte replenishment, I was advised to buy the chews instead of powder so I bought sour apple SatlStick Electrolyte fast chews.

Because I wasn't sure about water quality, I bought both a brita water bottle and Potable Aqua Water purification tablets.

I tried to purchase everything in mind with not harming the trail and leaving waste, and also being light to carry. If anyone has better ideas for any of these products, I'm all ears. I'm sure there are many even lighter weight and better to nature products that I just don't know about! Thank you!

 

[misspenn2519]

Not sure if the shampoo question was serious or not but I bought an expensive bar of Viori tea tree mint essential oil made with rice water. Haven't figured out if this can also work to wash my body but that's next to figure out.

Bringing a tiny travel size Native Deoderant stick.

For toothpaste, I bought superbee dentos toothpaste tables; for laundry sheets to either use in a ziplock or the occasional washer, I bought Eco Laundry Detergent sheets.

For electrolyte replenishment, I was advised to buy the chews instead of powder so I bought sour apple SatlStick Electrolyte fast chews.

Because I wasn't sure about water quality, I bought both a brita water bottle and Potable Aqua Water purification tablets.

I tried to purchase everything in mind with not harming the trail and leaving waste, and also being light to carry. If anyone has better ideas for any of these products, I'm all ears. I'm sure there are many even lighter weight and better to nature products that I just don't know about! Thank you!

Oh - and lastly - the tiiny little cooler bag is meant for meats and cheeses to eat as picnics along the way - but I'm also keen to eat as many spanish cafes as possible so may not need this, or maybe the cheese will last a day in my backpack without the cooler bag. it only weights 4.4oz.

 

[trecile]

Because I wasn't sure about water quality, I bought both a brita water bottle and Potable Aqua Water purification tablets.

Totally unnecessary. Spanish water meets high quality standards. However, if your system is ultra sensitive to the tiniest changes in drinking water it could be useful.

Not sure if the shampoo question was serious or not but I bought an expensive bar of Viori tea tree mint essential oil made with rice water. Haven't figured out if this can also work to wash my body but that's next to figure out

I always use a shampoo bar for hair and body on the Camino. If it can clean my hair and scalp it can clean the rest of my body.

Oh - and lastly - the tiiny little cooler bag is meant for meats and cheeses to eat as picnics along the way - but I'm also keen to eat as many spanish cafes as possible so may not need this, or maybe the cheese will last a day in my backpack without the cooler bag. it only weights 4.4oz.

Another thing that's unnecessary. Cheese will be fine in your backpack.

 

[misspenn2519]

Totally unnecessary. Spanish water meets high quality standards. However, if your system is ultra sensitive to the tiniest changes in drinking water it could be useful.

I always use a shampoo bar for hair and body on the Camino. If it can clean my hair and scalp it can clean the rest of my body.


Another thing that's unnecessary. Cheese will be fine in your backpack.

Thank you! all the load lightening is super helpful. I drink tap water in New York and California and it's fine for me. I just don't want water infected with parasites or brown or foul to the taste. But sounds like nothing like that to worry about on the camino? re cool bag, I ready from a guy who posted he did shopping when far in between towns the the foods spoiled, but maybe he was on a different route with less towns..? I'm happy to have every meal at the albergue or cafes along the way. Although I do love good night (or anytime) time snacks of Spanish meats and cheeses!

 

[Richard Smith]

+1 Spork. I used it twice or so when we bought a picnic lunch ingredients in supermarket and ate in a park. These lunches were great!
+1 knife. Used for picnic lunch and a few other times. OTOH I used the scissors almost everyday.
+1 bottle opener. Yes, used.
-1 Food storage container. I never used it. Fresh food kept long enough in whatever I bought it.
-1 cork screw. Drank plenty of wine but didn't need it.
So, my recommendation is to take a penknife with blade/scissors/bottle opener/tweezers and take the spork. Leave food cooler at home.

 

[CWBuff]

Re water purification: you are in SPAIN gor crying out loud. People drink tap water from the street spigot and fountains.
Brown and foul? Really? Honestly I'd be more afraid to drink it in NYC...
Same with expensive shampoo and toothpaste. Any supermercado will have similar if not the same brands we use at home. So unless that is your everyday shampoo why buy something you Don't use? For all you know might give you allergic reaction.
Cooler and... picnics? LOL... OK... I mean it's Your Camino but...
Again restaurants cafés food stands supermarkets small grocery stores ABOUND no reason to haul meat and cheeses for 5 days so they get spoiled
You're not going into the debths of Sahara, you're not even going onto Inca Trail to Machu Picchu- you are smack dab in the middle of a very civilized, if you will, European Country. You might be pleasantly surprised at the quality of some food that we can only dream of in NYC or LA....
Take a deep breath and start taking it easy; IMHO you're beginning to overthink a lot of stuff.

 

[J Willhaus]

@misspenn2519 , please don't take any of this too harshly or think you must adopt every suggestion. As you can see, we all have different preferences. Just take the things that seem best for you.

 

[trecile]

I ready from a guy who posted he did shopping when far in between towns the the foods spoiled, but maybe he was on a different route with less towns..?

Every Camino route that I've walked has been from town to town. Towns where people live, and therefore buy food. I can't imagine walking for days without being able to buy food.

 

[J Willhaus]

Every Camino route that I've walked has been from town to town. Towns where people live, and therefore buy food. I can't imagine walking for days without being able to buy food.

Ok, wait for the Aragones.

 

[JerryStroebele]

But don’t wait too long! Buen Camino

 

[trecile]

Ok, wait for the Aragones.

I know that there aren't as many towns, but I don't think that one walks for days without the opportunity to buy food! It sounds like it might be similar to the Camino del Salvador where there are some stages where there either isn't a grocery store, or it's not open when you pass through, and you need to notify the places that you stay ahead of time so that you can get a meal, but I only remember one day where I needed to carry food other than my normal orange and chocolate bar. A large bag of peanut M&Ms got me through my first day when I didn't pass an open bar until the afternoon because it was a Sunday.

 

[misspenn2519]

Re water purification: you are in SPAIN gor crying out loud. People drink tap water from the street spigot and fountains.
Brown and foul? Really? Honestly I'd be more afraid to drink it in NYC...
Same with expensive shampoo and toothpaste. Any supermercado will have similar if not the same brands we use at home. So unless that is your everyday shampoo why buy something you Don't use? For all you know might give you allergic reaction.
Cooler and... picnics? LOL... OK... I mean it's Your Camino but...
Again restaurants cafés food stands supermarkets small grocery stores ABOUND no reason to haul meat and cheeses for 5 days so they get spoiled
You're not going into the debths of Sahara, you're not even going onto Inca Trail to Machu Picchu- you are smack dab in the middle of a very civilized, if you will, European Country. You might be pleasantly surprised at the quality of some food that we can only dream of in NYC or LA....
Take a deep breath and start taking it easy; IMHO you're beginning to overthink a lot of stuff.

No, no. Don't get me wrong - I don't think I'm going to a scary place - I've been to Spain many times and love it - just never this region, never been on the trail to know the infrastructure, and also want to be prepared for those random alone side trips where I may want to take a bottle of wine and some bread and cheese up to a quiet replace to reflect. I do admit I'm getting too much advice with people telling me to bring water purification bottles or tablets. Shampoo; I was just trying to think of not bringing plastic to the trail and something lighter weight. But you're probably right, I could cut it and just small travel size plastic bottles there I suppose.

 

[JerryStroebele]

Bottle of wine. Mighty fine. But heavy. A copa is much lighter in a bar or Albergue. Buen Camino

 

[trecile]

I do admit I'm getting too much advice with people telling me to bring water purification bottles or tablets.

Who is giving you that advice? Certainly not normal advice on this forum.

 

[J Willhaus]

I know that there aren't as many towns, but I don't think that one walks for days without the opportunity to buy food! It sounds like it might be similar to the Camino del Salvador where there are some stages where there either isn't a grocery store, or it's not open when you pass through, and you need to notify the places that you stay ahead of time so that you can get a meal, but I only remember one day where I needed to carry food other than my normal orange and chocolate bar. A large bag of peanut M&Ms got me through my first day when I didn't pass an open bar until the afternoon because it was a Sunday.

There will be places to eat, but no stores, banks, etc. For a few days.

 

[woody66]

For electrolyte replenishment, I was advised to buy the chews instead of powder so I bought sour apple SatlStick Electrolyte fast chews.

Hi misspenn!
Just a heads up if you run out of chews!
I took a few Nuun electrolyte tabs as i began my first walk, but when the i ran out someone recommended drinking a can of Aquarius Lemon or Orange that you can buy in bars/cafes everywhere (they have some elecrolytes in made by Coke a Cola)
Sodium (111mg), Potassium (36mg), Calcium (1.7mg), Magnesium (2.4mg), Vitamin B3 (3mg), Vitamin B5 (1.1mg), Vitamin B6 (0.3mg).

 

[woody66]

Looking now to bring a solar charge battery bank - not bringing macbook air or tablet but need charging for my phone, my headlamp.. I think that's it. But I also bought a converter plug with USB ports that might be good enough for the day charge bc the power bank is 1.2lbs.

Is that right 1.2 lbs (544grams) is enormous! (same as my jacket ,kilt, gaiters and ultra light umbrella all together)
Don't do overkill it's a struggle cos we always think of the what ifs!!

I lugged so much electronic stuff i never used!
Cables for everything, a tablet and stand, wireless mouse, blue tooth keyboard to post with on the forum in the evening, multi port usb, world adaptor and some more bits all stayed hiding in my pack !!!!!
I should have carried a couple of house bricks instead just for fun

This time i am taking a small single Euro usb phone charger, phone(approx2 day charge) phone cable fits phone, earbuds head torch and small power bank enough for two charges (see i still suffer ha!ha!)

Third time this time i have called my pack Hokie Cokie! (packing has become a hobby)
Put all my gear in
Take all my gear out
In out in out
Shake it all about.
Do the Hokie Cokie
and turn around do it all over again!

But i suppose if cant find anything i want to lose;i should be happy!


Its a bit like when you look in the fridge for food and there's nothing you like; but go back 10 mins later look in again and expect to find treat!

 

[Camino Chrissy]

Third time this time i have called my pack Hokie Cokie! (packing has become a hobby)
Put all my gear in
Take all my gear out
In out in out
Shake it all about.
Turn around and do it all over again!

Love this...because it's true, and saying it to that jingle is hilarious! Also, even on my now 9th Camino I'm still doing that; in fact I just did it yesterday and I leave on Friday.

Its a bit like when you look in the fridge for food and there's nothing you like; but go back 10 mins later look in again and expect to find treat!

This is all true, too!
Thanks, Woody for my laughs this morning!

 

[Simperegrina]

Thank you! all the load lightening is super helpful. I drink tap water in New York and California and it's fine for me. I just don't want water infected with parasites or brown or foul to the taste. But sounds like nothing like that to worry about on the camino? re cool bag, I ready from a guy who posted he did shopping when far in between towns the the foods spoiled, but maybe he was on a different route with less towns..? I'm happy to have every meal at the albergue or cafes along the way. Although I do love good night (or anytime) time snacks of Spanish meats and cheeses!

Hey @misspenn2519 , as others have said you’ll get lots of different opinions on the forum, and it can probably get a bit confusing.

FWIW, in my experience, especially on the Frances there’s nothing to worry about re water, food etc. I drank water from fountains and taps (unless there were signs saying “no potable”), and when I stopped at cafes and bars I always asked for a top up of one of my bottles.

Re food - nothing will spoil in your bag over the course of a day. I maintain salami/chorizo/packets of sliced cheese etc are indestructible in your pack over at least a couple of days…though I suspect someone’s going to pop up and tell me differently

Re sunscreen, I’m not albino admittedly, but I am a pale Brit who needs SPF50, especially on my face. I won’t lie, sunscreen is VERY expensive in Spain, compared to UK, Australia etc. I tend to take a small bottle (travel size) to get me started, and then restock from pharmacias as I go along.

 

[CWBuff]

and when I stopped at cafes and bars I always asked for a top up of one of my bottles.

Re food - I maintain salami/chorizo/packets of sliced cheese etc are indestructible in your pack over at least a couple of days…though I suspect someone’s going to pop up and tell me differently

Re sunscreen,...I won’t lie, sunscreen is VERY expensive in Spain, compared to UK, Australia etc. I tend to take a small bottle (travel size) to get me started, and then restock from pharmacias as I go along.

1. Good thing to remember - the people behind the counter are very friendly and helpful in that aspect, esp. if you just finished a meal (however small that may be). I had no problem filling my 3L camel bladder and couple of times the gents said "I'll do you one better" and filled it with ice! That stayed cool for the duration of the day.
And speaking of bladders (if you chose to use one), the stories of "something growing inside of them" are grossly exaggerate! The water needs to be stagnated in order for that to happen and if you constantly sucking on a tube and keep on replenishing "from the top" - it will never happen.

2. @Simperegrina - how can someone tell you different if it is YOUR CAMINO and YOUR "maintenance"

3. I found out that it is better to go to a supermarket - the sunscreen is cheaper than at the pharmacia (practically anything "hygiene"-wise is and sometimes you can even hit stuff that is on sale. One time I picked up a roll-on deodorant for slightly under 1€)

 

[Simperegrina]

1. Good thing to remember - the people behind the counter are very friendly and helpful in that aspect, esp. if you just finished a meal (however small that may be). I had no problem filling my 3L camel bladder and couple of times the gents said "I'll do you one better" and filled it with ice! That stayed cool for the duration of the day.
And speaking of bladders (if you chose to use one), the stories of "something growing inside of them" are grossly exaggerate! The water needs to be stagnated in order for that to happen and if you constantly sucking on a tube and keep on replenishing "from the top" - it will never happen.

2. @Simperegrina - how can someone tell you different if it is YOUR CAMINO and YOUR "maintenance"

3. I found out that it is better to go to a supermarket - the sunscreen is cheaper than at the pharmacia (practically anything "hygiene"-wise is and sometimes you can even hit stuff that is on sale. One time I picked up a roll-on deodorant for slightly under 1€)

Sunscreen is cheaper in the supermarkets, it’s true, but they don’t tend to sell smaller, more portable containers - so I tend to pick those up from pharmacias

 

[CWBuff]

Sunscreen is cheaper in the supermarkets, it’s true, but they don’t tend to sell smaller, more portable containers - so I tend to pick those up from pharmacias

and true to that, absolutely. I guess I didn't think too much of a size. I don't rightly recall what the size of the one (or couple) i wound up buying; I will agree that a 'portable size' it was not but at the same it was not a 'family size' either. It fitted very nicely into a side pocket of my backpack - worked for me since i don't use water bottles. I applied liberally at every stop I made, so say 3 at minimum\day. Given that I did Frances and Finisterre - the product was being used so actually having a larger size wound up being a convenience for me (although, once more, I'll attest that I did not think of it one way or the other at the time)

 

[trecile]

Looking now to bring a solar charge battery bank - not bringing macbook air or tablet but need charging for my phone, my headlamp.. I think that's it. But I also bought a converter plug with USB ports that might be good enough for the day charge bc the power bank is 1.2lbs

Leave this behemoth if a solar charge battery behind. I bring a very lightweight (4 ounces) battery pack that will give my phone a full charge. Anything more is overkill. You will have the opportunity to plug your phone in to charge at your accommodation every day, and also possibly in bars that you stop in along the way. The Camino is not a wilderness hike.

I won’t lie, sunscreen is VERY expensive in Spain,

As @CWBuff mentioned it is a lot less expensive in supermarkets, especially if the store has their own brand.
It's true that it's usually in a larger size, but for someone who is especially susceptible to sun damage it can be worth the extra weight. Especially if they have already eliminated a one pound solar charger.

 

[Simperegrina]

and true to that, absolutely. I guess I didn't think too much of a size. I don't rightly recall what the size of the one (or couple) i wound up buying; I will agree that a 'portable size' it was not but at the same it was not a 'family size' either. It fitted very nicely into a side pocket of my backpack - worked for me since i don't use water bottles. I applied liberally at every stop I made, so say 3 at minimum\day. Given that I did Frances and Finisterre - the product was being used so actually having a larger size wound up being a convenience for me (although, once more, I'll attest that I did not think of it one way or the other at the time)

Aye, I probably spend three times as much going for the titchy containers!

 

[Simperegrina]

Leave this behemoth if a solar charge battery behind. I bring a very lightweight (4 ounces) battery pack that will give my phone a full charge. Anything more is overkill. You will have the opportunity to plug your phone in to charge at your accommodation every day, and also possibly in bars that you stop in along the way. The Camino is not a wilderness hike.


As @CWBuff mentioned it is a lot less expensive in supermarkets, especially if the store has their own brand.
It's true that it's usually in a larger size, but for someone who is especially susceptible to sun damage it can be worth the extra weight. Especially if they have already eliminated a one pound solar charger.

 

[60LifeChange]

Thank you for all of this - you are so wonderful helping this newbie. Right now, my room likes like an Amazon and REI explosion bc I've bought every version of everything to text weight, what capacity of pack I need, etc. Of course I'd like to save as much money as possible but not if the gear I have is really not optimal for the Route Frances. I bought a Patagonia Torrent 3 rain shell; liked it a bit better than the Northface but it's also heavier. I had a dirt cheap poncho from a trip to honduras but it's just plastic and snaps on side and wasn't sure if would fit with my pack (I could still try that! I have 7 packs here now to try!) so I bought a new poncho by SophieRose. Weighs 11 oz in it's zippered pouch. Still really on the fence about the bladder; seems like so much extra weight if there is ample water all along the trail. Looking now to bring a solar charge battery bank - not bringing macbook air or tablet but need charging for my phone, my headlamp.. I think that's it. But I also bought a converter plug with USB ports that might be good enough for the day charge bc the power bank is 1.2lbs. I'm getting close (I hope) to finalizing my kit; Some zinc oxide arrived today take to help heal blisters and wrap my ankles if my trail runners are sufficient; I am taking trekking poles (bringing two bc they're only 8 oz each and with the pain I'm having in hips and joints from breast cancer therapies, I figure better being safe than sorry. Just not sure which accessories to bring with them apart from for sure an extra pair of rubber tips.

Sunscreen is another big one for me - I'm albino so need protection more than just face but that's a lot of weight too. Hoping I can do well in lighter weight long-sleeve shirts. I'm sure there's sunscreen along the way but far more expensive?

Lastly, I've booked accommodation all the way through Zubiri bc of how hard I'm finding bookings are to find. But I'm willing to lose them if I find I want to make a detour or spend extra time somewhere. Pamploma I'm sure will be difficult, but if I have to, I can pay for a nicer hotel.

This trek for me is really about the journey and making new friends along the way, as well as taking some time to walk alone to try to figure some things out after a very rough year. Want to make it as least physically demanding as possible bc I really want to try to not send my pack ahead.

my office is similar, REI is my friend. I have changed it from a room for studying to a room for adventures. I have packed, unpacked, repacked, and rearranged over and over, as well as hiked with my pack to see how it loads, and what I can do with and what I can do without. i know i am overthinking it, but that is part of the adventure... planning... and to steal a line from my brother, if you want to hear God laugh?

tell him your plans...

I have accommodations in St Jean, but after that? The Camino will provide bedspace along the way. I would suggest some very strong anti-inflammatories, as i understand the aftereffects of breast cancer modalities. it may reduce the difficulty of the Camino and make it less arduous.

Buen Camino

 

[CaminoPhotos]

Hello all - thank you all so much for all of the guidance on what is not my only first camino but first hike over about 5 miles! I've headed a lot of advice about backpacks and trekking poles and the major stuff, now I'm getting down to the nitty gritty small things that may make a huge difference or may be left out to keep pack light.

First - Shoes - I'm choosing to use a pair of broken in but very good quality Salomon Speed Cross 3 and I've read that they offer zero water-proofness, but they are comfortable for me and broken in and I don't know how much rain I can expect to encounter on an approx May 20-July 6 trek. Should I buy those silicone shoe liners, just tough out the wet feet, spray silicone?

Also on the topic of no knowing how much rain to expect and trying to pack lightly, do I really need a rain jacket, or will a "water-resistent hiking jacket" and a poncho that covers myself and the backpack do?

Also, I've opted for a straw sun hat instead of waterproof fisherman's style bucket hat - had idea? Can I spray waterproofing silicone on that too?

Lastly, I've read I should always have a spork on hand, and I did buy a Onelli 6cm blade which I've read should pass but depends on the officer you get... What about a lightweight expandable silicone cup and bowl? Together, they weigh 5oz.

Also, I have a very small cool bag; 4oz; I've ready that it's hard to keep food fresh on the trail in between towns with no markets. Worth the weight when my max is approx 12lbs?

Thanks so much!

Broken-in shoes are a must. Some people swear by waterproof boots/shoes, others wear by breathable trail runners. There's no right or wrong, both have their negatives and positive, it's up to you what you prefer.

A good quality water-resistant shell jacket is essential, as it rains a lot. On a few days we had torrential rain, and I luckily had a cheap plastic poncho too, so that was really useful.

Any hat is a good idea, don't worry about it being waterproof, they dry out quickly. The thick cotton "Tilley" hats are the worst choice IMO, it's better to get a light synthetic quick-dry fabric.

You don't need a cooler bag or spork, or anything like a bowl or cup. There's food and drink every few kms and they have cutlery when needed.

The Camino Frances is not a wilderness trek, it's a tame walk though cities, towns, suburbs and villages, so you really don't need to take much at all, other than a spare change of clothing.

Buen Camino!

 

[CaminoPhotos]

It rained a lot on my first Camino Frances, May-June, 2013. I had a large brimmed Tilley hat and it kept the rain off my glasses. Since I need them to see, I found the hat very helpful. I have always worn a hat since then. I take it off and hang on my pack if I don't need it, but use it in the rain. I also wore waterproof hiking boots and in 3 Caminos only found the water went in them once, because it was streaming done my legs, and that was in October (2023) on the Ingles, when an Atlantic storm was crossing the Iberian peninsula. The rest of the time, my feet have stayed dry and comfortable, not blisters from wet socks rubbing on my feet. The boots have also helped with uneven surfaces, both when you are walking on bumpy things like roman roads, etc. and they provide ankle support.

I agree with you about waterproof boots. I find they keep my feet dry even in heavy rain. They are more comfortable, and offer more foot and ankle support, for some of the tricker parts of the trail.

I walked for many days with others who had flimsy trail runners. If it rained in the mornings, they would be walking with wet feet all day and get blisters. My feet were always dry and blister-free. In April/May there can be a lot of water on the trail, and muddy water isnlt fun to walk with in your shoes.

Each to their own though, there is no right or wrong solution.

 

[JerryStroebele]

Yes each to his own. On the Mozárabe from Málaga in March my daughter wore Hoka speed goats and I wore La Sportiva Gore Tex Raptor mid height Two days of heavy rains and one stream crossing soaked hers more than mine. We each got one small blister and we are each sticking to our chosen footwear on our next Camino. Buen Camino

 

[NJohn]

You’ve received many fantastic replies. I’ll add a couple more. . Loved having a spork. We picked up a few food items for picnics in grocery stores - cheese, nuts, fruit and these great salads in containers that were shelf stable. I had a food storage container but got rid of it because the squeaking sound it made in my backpack drove me crazy. Used ziplock bags instead. Trail runners will be fine. They were good over the Pyrenees and other climbs and descents. If you do get rain, they will dry quicker than boots. Never got blisters - even on days of absolute pouring rain going to Finesterre. I believe my injinji toe socks and morning routine of slathering feet with foot goo was the reason for that. (Vaseline will also work)

 

[David61]

I know this is a question on gear and I can see you are allowing a lot of time for your Camino but I would really recommend you try extending your walking distances before you go. Yes, those shoes may be ok for 5 miles but not for 10. Yes that weight (if you have walked with it) may be ok for 5 miles but it probably won't be after 12 miles in the sun. Btw as for wet feet, try to avoid it if at all possible, wet feet = blisters