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Reading some posts on the theme of numbers on the CF I saw many suggestions to stay off stage. I assumed this meant stopping before or continuing onward from the towns at the beginning and end of stages on apps like Gronze etc. In my own case the only time I stayed completely off the Via de La Plata was on the stage from Zafra to Merida I walked off the Camino to Almendralejo and not having booked ahead was unable to find a bed. I finally took a taxi to the next town Aceuchal. The infrastructure on that stretch is not solely for pilgrims so there were limited options.
I am hoping to walk the CF for the first time in ‘24. My question is what
is the general consensus of what is off stage? Is it stopping just before or after a stage start/ finish or do people head off (more then 2kms) the Camino, whether walking or taxi/bus, to stay away from the crowds?
 
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Most people who want to be "off stage" just make sure to stop either before or after the most popular towns and villages. For example you might choose to stay in Viana or Navarette rather than in Logroño, or walk beyond Zubiri and stay in Urdaniz or Larrasoaña instead.
 

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Most people who want to be "off stage" just make sure to stop either before or after the most popular towns and villages. For example you might choose to stay in Viana or Navarette rather than in Logroño, or walk beyond Zubiri and stay in Urdaniz or Larrasoaña instead.
I think if you look at Gronze.com or almost any of the guide books, you'll see there are plenty of places to stay besides the towns at the beginning and end of the pictured maps for each section. I consider all those little places in between the beginning and end of the page to be off stage.
 
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Reading some posts on the theme of numbers on the CF I saw many suggestions to stay off stage. I assumed this meant stopping before or continuing onward from the towns at the beginning and end of stages on apps like Gronze etc. In my own case the only time I stayed completely off the Via de La Plata was on the stage from Zafra to Merida I walked off the Camino to Almendralejo and not having booked ahead was unable to find a bed. I finally took a taxi to the next town Aceuchal. The infrastructure on that stretch is not solely for pilgrims so there were limited options.
I am hoping to walk the CF for the first time in ‘24. My question is what
is the general consensus of what is off stage? Is it stopping just before or after a stage start/ finish or do people head off (more then 2kms) the Camino, whether walking or taxi/bus, to stay away from the crowds?
I think you have the right idea. I tend to look at the Stages in Brierley first, and Gronze second for where the "stages" are. There are other guides but either they are not as popular or I don't see them because I tend to hang around English language sites.

Staying "off-stage" comes with trade offs. There is less competition for beds because you don't get the hordes that are just following the guides. But there are also less services and amenities (shops, restaurants, banks, pharmacies, etc.) because there are less pilgrims. When I stay off-stage I tend to pause in the stage-end town before my stopping village and pick up what I will need before heading on.

Generally, staying off-stage is primarily recommended for the busier Caminos that are rich in infrastructure where you are worried about the albergues in the stage ends being full and there are plenty of albergues in the intermediate villages. In the less walked Caminos there is much less worry about full albergues (on the Camino de Madrid, more than half the time I was the only pilgrim in the albergue) and less options for albergues between stages.

I don't think there is a rule how far from the town it has to be. In 2016, I stayed 5 km after Sarria to put myself a bit out of synch for the big crowds I expected to be leaving from there. This year, in July after Melide, I put myself at least 10 km from the stage ends to give myself maximal separation (and to have the days' walk the length I like with a nice short walk at the end into Santiago.
 
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My question is whati s the general consensus of what is off stage? [1] Is it stopping just before or after a stage start/ finish or [2] do people head off (more then 2kms) the Camino, whether walking or taxi/bus, to stay away from the crowds?
I use off stage for 1, off camino for 2.
 

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Reading some posts on the theme of numbers on the CF I saw many suggestions to stay off stage. I assumed this meant stopping before or continuing onward from the towns at the beginning and end of stages on apps like Gronze etc. In my own case the only time I stayed completely off the Via de La Plata was on the stage from Zafra to Merida I walked off the Camino to Almendralejo and not having booked ahead was unable to find a bed. I finally took a taxi to the next town Aceuchal. The infrastructure on that stretch is not solely for pilgrims so there were limited options.
I am hoping to walk the CF for the first time in ‘24. My question is what
is the general consensus of what is off stage? Is it stopping just before or after a stage start/ finish or do people head off (more then 2kms) the Camino, whether walking or taxi/bus, to stay away from the crowds?

Reading some posts on the theme of numbers on the CF I saw many suggestions to stay off stage. I assumed this meant stopping before or continuing onward from the towns at the beginning and end of stages on apps like Gronze etc. In my own case the only time I stayed completely off the Via de La Plata was on the stage from Zafra to Merida I walked off the Camino to Almendralejo and not having booked ahead was unable to find a bed. I finally took a taxi to the next town Aceuchal. The infrastructure on that stretch is not solely for pilgrims so there were limited options.
I am hoping to walk the CF for the first time in ‘24. My question is what
is the general consensus of what is off stage? Is it stopping just before or after a stage start/ finish or do people head off (more then 2kms) the Camino, whether walking or taxi/bus, to stay away from the crowds?
My interpretation is: ending before or after the prescribe start/end towns noted in the various apps or books. I did that this Sept/Oct when I approached Sarria. I shifted my stays to the little towns and I was so surprised by how I avoided the crowds. I also chose to leave before sunrise to start my walk which allowed me to arrive early to my destinations. I booked a day before or same day and I did not have a problem with finding a bed. I remained flexible with how far I needed to walk and I was pleasantly surprised by the little towns and their charm and hospitality. I would do it the same way all over again. I was on CF, it was my 1st Camino.
 
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