You will get many descriptions and conflicting advice, and you eon't know for sure until you reach the security screening. I suggest packing those things in a parcel or bag to be discarded. Check that bag and carry everything else in your backpack, into the cabin.Firstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
Thanks...it seems That is what I am faced with ....Check with security at your local airport.
If they say no and you really want to bring these things, get a small box, load it with these items and check the box. Or buy these items in Europe.
You definitely won't be allowed to carry an 80mm knife on any flight in Europe. the limit for blades is 50mmFirstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
I placed my pack with 2 box cutters and a Victorinox knife into a suitcase. Poles were protected. The suitcase was large enough to accommodate them without separating the sections. I'd obtained the suitcase for free from a give-it-away-free kind of website and left the suitcase in SJPdP. The owner of the hostel didn't mind my leaving it behind because he knew he would use it as a give away some where down the line. When I got to Santiago, I purchased a quality 4-wheel rolling suitcase and transported my pack back home that way. I separated my poles into their three individual pieces and placed them on the bottom of the suitcase for the return trip. One other way to protect poles is to place them inside PVC plumbing pipes and place caps at both ends. Tape everything tight.Firstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
This is good advice and is what I did when flying from the U.S. I boxed up poles, knife, liquids, etc. and checked all that and then carried on my backpack.I bought a 24” cardboard mailing tube, and put my poles, tiny scissors, an extra contact lens solution (that would have put me over my liquid allocation) in the tube as well. I checked the tube and carried my backpack on. I ditched the tube when I got there. Coming home, I put the entire pack and poles in a large extremely lightweight duffel which had lived in the very bottom of my pack the whole time, and checked the whole thing. It didn’t matter if it went missing on the way home![]()
Re being "over the limit" on liquids. Place liquids in separate containers before they go through the exray machine. The person looking at the items on the screen won't know who owns what and won't necessarily realize that someone is taking too much liquids. Also, if you put liquids of small quantities in a food bag, like something from McDonalds, no one really pays attention to food bags.This is good advice and is what I did when flying from the U.S. I boxed up poles, knife, liquids, etc. and checked all that and then carried on my backpack.
Re being "over the limit" on liquids. Place liquids in separate containers before they go through the exray machine. The person looking at the items on the screen won't know who owns what and won't necessarily realize that someone is taking too much liquids. Also, if you put liquids of small quantities in a food bag, like something from McDonalds, no one really pays attention to food bags.
Bruce, I carried my fold-up poles in my checked bag with no problem. If they fit inside your carry-on that’s acceptable. You generally cannot carry a knife or scissors of any size in a carry-on but it’s fine in a checked bag.Firstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
Definitely a no go for cabin luggage. Get a cardboard box, pack the banned items into it, seal well with packing tape and send it in the hold. On artival, just discard the box.Firstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
My son's girlfriend wasn't allowed a small container of cheese dip from a fast food place.Also, if you put liquids of small quantities in a food bag, like something from McDonalds, no one really pays attention to food bags.
Having your poles in your carry-on may have worked for you, that time. But I can assure you, it is not allowed in Canada, and from what I’ve heard on here and elsewhere, it is totally at the whim of airport personnel and their mood on the day. I would never risk it.Bruce, I carried my fold-up poles in my checked bag with no problem. If they fit inside your carry-on that’s acceptable. You generally cannot carry a knife or scissors of any size in a carry-on but it’s fine in a checked bag.
Never had problems with black diamond z poles on multiple airlines to and from NZ in and out of several countries in Europe.I fly from Australia ... Yes I feared as much ... just trying to find a way around not losing my expensive Poles.
I bought a 24” cardboard mailing tube, and put my poles, tiny scissors, an extra contact lens solution (that would have put me over my liquid allocation) in the tube as well. I checked the tube and carried my backpack on. I ditched the tube when I got there. Coming home, I put the entire pack and poles in a large extremely lightweight duffel which had lived to in the very bottom of my pack the whole time, and checked the whole thing. It didn’t matter if it went missing on the way home
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Here’s a photo of the stuff sack below. It’s 65L but weighs only 5.2 oz, folds up to about the size of a pair of socks.
Firstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
I have carried my folding carbon fibre poles in my carry-on backpack from Canadian airports, so it is not as sure as you suggest. However, I usually choose to put them in a package as checked luggage in order to avoid any complication.I can assure you, it is not allowed in Canada,
I guess my mistake was talking to the airport near me, and to Transport Canada who I was also told to call. One of those “It’s better to ask forgiveness than permission” scenarios, maybe?I have carried my folding carbon fibre poles in my carry-on backpack from Canadian airports, so it is not as sure as you suggest. However, I usually choose to put them in a package as checked luggage in order to avoid any complication.
Or a "better safe than sorry" recommendation. I think it is a case of there being "walking poles" and "walking poles." Maybe folding carbon fibre ones are interpreted by some agents as having less potential as weapons.I guess my mistake was talking to the airport near me, and to Transport Canada who I was also told to call.
The general rule is that if its pointed and can be used as weapon then expect to have it confiscated. Everything can be bought in France or Spain or better still, camino will provide everything you need. Pilgrims leave stuff behind in albergues even fancy carbon poles. Roncesvalles is an Aladans cave. Taking carry-on bag is good idea, I did the same and in 4 Caminos I've only carried and needed the nail clippers and if needed, the filing part could be used as a weaponFirstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
I ship my poles and knife separately. Those can be replaced in SJPP if the airline screws up.I fly from Australia ... Yes I feared as much ... just trying to find a way around not losing my expensive Poles.
buy the poles, scissors and knife in St Jeanie wherever you start from. no hassels this wayFirstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
Thanks for asking.no corkscrews allowed! lol
hope your sister is well.
Power corrupts. So sad.I had to carry-on from Bilbao through Paris to Cincinnati, it was a last minute flight to get to my sister's bedside who was in the ER, long story; anyway I had a corkscrew with a foil cutter knife on it in my bag. Wasn't even think about it until I arrived home in Cincinnati and was quizzed when I passed through the customs line scanner. I was home, mind you, and they made me give up the corkscrew, this after passing through a scanner in Spain and another scanner in France. Idiots!
Firstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
Exactly what we did, except we added the liquids (toiletry stiff mainly) in the tube as well. That way we weren't limited to the 3-oz bottles that TSA requires for carry-on. Just be sure to write your name and contact info on the outside of the tube.Cardboard mailing tube for the poles and 'sharps'........... check it in.
Please,,, why would you recommend stealing!!!My understanding is that is against all international regulations to take poles into the cabin because they can be used as a clubbing weapon. You might be lucky but really, you shouldn't be allowed to get lucky. You can buy walking poles for a few quid in almost every town on the Camino. You may like to have access to a Swiss Army knife but there's usually someone in an albergue who has such a thing you can borrow. If you want a knife for lunch you can nick one from a café somewhere.
If you own poles at the end, Santiago airport lets you check in the poles, so they go in the hold and not in the cabin, for free. But if you then change flights in, say, Paris, that rule doesn't apply, obvs.
Nail clippers? Buy them in Spain for tuppence.
Exactly,,, so buy one,,, why recommend stealing!!!!You can't take a knife into an aircraft cabin. It's against the law. If you need one you either pay to have it in the hold or you acquire one while in Spain.
Are you kidding me??!!If you want a knife for lunch you can nick one from a café somewhere.
Thanks "mmmmartin" the Swiss knife is being discarded, the Bars/Cafés/ Albergies will let me acquire a Knife and I shall return same, with thanks ... oops I mean 'Gracias'... the Camino provides.You can't take a knife into an aircraft cabin. It's against the law. If you need one you either pay to have it in the hold or you acquire one while in Spain.
Having your poles in your carry-on may have worked for you, that time. But I can assure you, it is not allowed in Canada, and from what I’ve heard on here and elsewhere, it is totally at the whim of airport personnel and their mood on the day. I would never risk it.
Hi ZodmotI use one pole that does not fold up small. I’ve taken it on many flights all over the world and have never once been asked about it. It goes in the overhead bin lengthwise.
Firstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
Hi Zodmot
I commence my CF SJPdP up-to Ormisson
this 21April.
Can you tell me what the weather was like when you were there?
Pyrenees in particular.
Thanks
BruceS
Sydney Australia
Well, that's a way to guarantee that people living along tbe camino love pilgrims.If you want a knife for lunch you can nick one from a café somewhere.
I will heed your advice and prepare to layer my Pyrenees clothing ... also to book Roncesvailles and 1 other before Pamplona (I have Orisson booked).G’day Bruce,
Probably won’t surprise you that the weather at that time is variable. It was quite that last year. I intended to leave StJPdP on April 25 but wasn’t feeling well so delayed it a couple of days. The people who did go on April 25 over the top encountered a Winter storm that day and something like 50 or so had to be rescued because of dense fog, no visibility, and freezing conditions. The route over the top was closed until the day I left, April 28th. That day was stellar—clear, 12 degrees, sunny. It was cold up at Orisson, no one was outside drinking coffee but we all crammed inside. It seemed that once I was moving again outside it was ok. The light gloves went on and off all day. The nights were down near freezing those first few days but it warmed up nicely during the days. I said a sad farewell to a winter coat I brought along on day 3 or 4, didn’t ever miss it. There were people who spent the night at Orisson and they were all happy they did so. I went onto Roncesvailles.,
I’d add a strong suggestion that you do have a reservation that night at one of those two places. At Roncesvailles they turned away 100 people that night. I was part of a surge of people. Don’t know but it may have been a combination of having the route closed for a couple of days, the celebration of Mother’s Day in either France or Spain, or a weekend that was like the opening of the season. Kind of like that first weekend of AFL footy in Melbourne. Every place was booked those first few days all the way to Pamplona. After that, the surge dissipated and I was able always to get a bed without a reservation. I do remember some cold nights those first few weeks. Nice days. Only one day of rain. One day of strong wind. Otherwise very lovely. Layering of clothes is the key. I walked the whole Camino again in October last year. Other than pinching lots of delicious apples along the way, Springtime on the Camino can’t be beat for the sheer beauty of nature and farmland.
i do recommend staying the night at Beilari albergue in StJPdP before you depart. Very nice environment and you meet people that you will see throughout the Camino.
I spent 10 lovely years living and working in your country. I really miss it after coming back to the states in 2015. My last trip to SYD was memorable. That day my girlfriend and I heard the Sydney Symphony at the Opera House and then spent the remainder of our last day there at Bondi. An incredibly beautiful day. I however fell afoul of a big wave and had to be rescued. Ironically, the night before in our hotel we watched the shows “Bondi Rescue” and “Kings Cross” and the next day we got to know the very people in those episodes! Very professional folks and I was very grateful for their help. In the end they patched me up and nothing was seriously damaged other than my pride. For months I had to argue with MediBank who held that I must’ve had a preexisting condition and it couldn’t have been caused by a wave that tossed me 360 degrees and slammed me into the sand. The fact that I hadn’t seen a dr in two years was further proof to them that I must have been ill. Ha! They eventually paid.
Buen Camino Bruce!!!!!!!
Tom
I avoid bad Karma by not stealing Camino kitchenware.Well, that's a way to guarantee that people living along tbe camino love pilgrims.
(I know ethical conduct is fast going out of fashion, but suggesting that is just plain bad advice. And doing it is seriously bad karma, which will eventually bear rotten fruit...)
No way are you going to be allowed to carry on a knife and scissors!! I got a backpack cover that doubles as a rain cover. Its lockable, I got it from Decathlon. I now put my pack in with baggage and take a small nylon bag with things I might need as cabin baggage.Firstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
I fly from Australia ... Yes I feared as much ... just trying to find a way around not losing my expensive Poles.
They are lighter weight too.I am hoping the plastic one's in Tourist will suffice.
You did EXACTLY what I did (used an IKEA blue plastic bag for the duffel). I go back two more times this year and will follow that practice again.I bought a 24” cardboard mailing tube, and put my poles, tiny scissors, an extra contact lens solution (that would have put me over my liquid allocation) in the tube as well. I checked the tube and carried my backpack on. I ditched the tube when I got there. Coming home, I put the entire pack and poles in a large extremely lightweight duffel which had lived in the very bottom of my pack the whole time, and checked the whole thing. It didn’t matter if it went missing on the way home![]()
I was planning on doing this as well and then sending the almost empty bag to the end of the camino. Do you have any advice about this? Starting the Frances from SJPDP, should you send the bag via a courier to Roncevalles then mail it to the end? (Central Oregon and this will be camino #1)I bring a suitcase with my pre and post Camino things, since I like to do a bit of sightseeing before and after the Camino. I put my poles in that checked bag. If it goes missing its easy enough to replace them.
From SJPDP the easiest way is to use Express Bourricot.I was planning on doing this as well and then sending the almost empty bag to the end of the camino. Do you have any advice about this? Starting the Frances from SJPDP, should you send the bag via a courier to Roncevalles then mail it to the end? (Central Oregon and this will be camino #1)
2 choices. Leave the not allowed items behind and restock on arrival or check luggage the pack and poles.I fly from Australia ... Yes I feared as much ... just trying to find a way around not losing my expensive Poles.
How true! While lesser folk struggle with a plastic sporkPerhaps you could fly Qantas first class and ask if you can keep the cutlery . . .
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I assemble a box to accommodate the pole , then tape a bag to the pole to hold knife etc. and check the box, its worked for five caminos,on the way back home i put all in the back pack and check it.Firstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
I fly from Australia ... Yes I feared as much ... just trying to find a way around not losing my expensive Poles.
Hi Bruce,Firstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
We flew from Au and yep can’t take poles and sharp objects on plane. I went to Kathmandu store and brought a luggage tracker. I took the majority of my hiking gear and back pack on plane as it would be hard to replace if lost at short notice. I place poles and sharp objects as check in. It’s a risk if lost in transit, but at least if lost then you only have to replace a few items, and as for cost to replace, well insurance is a must when going overseas.I fly from Australia ... Yes I feared as much ... just trying to find a way around not losing my expensive Poles.
I checked in a very little bag with all those things plus poles. Left it at the hostel in Barcelona with my travel clothes as I stayed there again before flying back to Oz. I have never had probs with nail clippers but no luck with the other stuff.I fly from Australia ... Yes I feared as much ... just trying to find a way around not losing my expensive Poles.
Proper cutlery on Lufthansa economy. I was surprised. Food was good too.How true! While lesser folk struggle with a plastic spork...obviously no terrorist would be seen dead travelling at the pointy end of the plane
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Actually the only time I traveled in the pointy end it was with Lufthansa (splurged on Air miles). I didn't realize that the riffraffProper cutlery on Lufthansa economy. I was surprised. Food was good too.
I like your practical Camino approach ,,, but this old Turkey does not know where in Australia (particularly Sydney) to buy "those cheap $2 striped bags" ... any suggestions? Thanks BruceSFrom Australia, you will be stopped with duck tape and the tiniest cable ties ( both are potential restraints), and even those little children‘s scissors with the rounded blade ends ( a weapon, apparently) . I know from experience. I like being protected, but we must be the most paranoid place on the planet. America is probably on a par with us. It’s a sad indictment on the world these days. I pack my back and poles in one of those cheap $2 striped bags and duct tape it up for security, then throw the bag away at the other airport. Use small cable ties to temporarily secure your zips. You can buy those striped bags in Santiago for the return trip, or just ditch the poles and cable tie the pack for further travel.
Just don’t take the tape, ties, or scissors on the plane in a small carryon, it doesn’t go well, I know from experience. Ha!
Wrap it up in brown paper and string. It doesn't need to be fancy."those cheap $2 striped bags"
Ah! one of my favourite things!Wrap it up in brown paper and string. It doesn't need to be fancy.
The only sure way to get these items on to the plane is to pay for checked baggage. However, when I flew out of Santiago last June, they allowed me to check in my rucksack, as it had a walking pole in it. I'm doing the Camino in instalments so, as the pole only cost 5 euros from a shop in Portomarin, if it ever gets taken off me when checking in for flights in the future, I'll just have to buy a new one. By the way, I recently flew from Birmingham to Dusseldorf with carry-on luggage only and my nail clippers went through security without any comment.Firstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
The same thing happened to me in Australia. I was only passing thru from the states to NZ. I had to go thru security, and my fold up scissors that have flown many miles in multiple countries were confiscated in Melbourne.I had a very small pair of scissors taken off me in Australia recently. I knew they were a safe size but I got told only allowed if the blades have curved ends not pointed ends! I have carried them on board lots of times before so you can never tell how strict security is going to be.
Security people often ask you to show them your transparent bag containing all of your liquids, you don't get the opportunity to put things through in a separate tray. It is actually a requirement that you place all of your liquids into one, approved bag for that reason. And if you are caught trying to sneak things through you can be in serious trouble. You know and I know that it's mostly theatre to make people think they are safe, however the reality is that the security people have the upper hand and it just isn't worth trying to cheat the system, not to mention the dishonesty of it.Re being "over the limit" on liquids. Place liquids in separate containers before they go through the exray machine. The person looking at the items on the screen won't know who owns what and won't necessarily realize that someone is taking too much liquids. Also, if you put liquids of small quantities in a food bag, like something from McDonalds, no one really pays attention to food bags.
Lost my folding poles at security in Madrid airport returning to USFirstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
Do your poles fold? We flew from Toronto to Lisbon via TAP air. Our poles fold in three and fit easily inside our backpacks and there were no issues. We checked with security the day before we flew out to make sure so there were no unpleasant surprises on the day of our flight.I fly from Australia ... Yes I feared as much ... just trying to find a way around not losing my expensive Poles.
Were your poles inside your backpack?Lost my folding poles at security in Madrid airport returning to US![]()
You get them in the $2 stores or Asian market shops.if Sydney go to paddys marketsI like your practical Camino approach ,,, but this old Turkey does not know where in Australia (particularly Sydney) to buy "those cheap $2 striped bags" ... any suggestions? Thanks BruceS
I fly from Australia ... Yes I feared as much ... just trying to find a way around not losing my expensive Poles.
Put all those questionable items in a separate pouch/bag/container and check it through at the ticket counter and retrieve it at the other end.Firstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
I had a Swiss army knife and a miniscule knife from a Swiss Army creditcard tool (two separate occasions) confiscated when I accidentally left them in my carry-on backpack.Firstly my BP is size ok.
I definitely want to Carry-On my BackPack ... with small
Nail Clippers;
80 mm knife;
tiny Victorinox Swiss Scissors;
fold-Up CarbonFibre Poles.
Any experience with this?
This is excellent advice. Airport security Is not debatable ..... poles, knives are not allowed in the cabin. Easy to book in a tube which is disposable on the way there and on leaving Santiago I have my pack wrapped in plastic and check it into the hold.You will get many descriptions and conflicting advice, and you eon't know for sure until you reach the security screening. I suggest packing those things in a parcel or bag to be discarded. Check that bag and carry everything else in your backpack, into the cabin.