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Thank you Ivar for posting this interview with Shirley MacLaine on her Camino. It was her book which inspired me to do the Camino, I was ashamed to admit this initially as there were so many low opinions of her book and her motives. It was your forum which gave me the practical details of how to do the Camino although I had to filter off the techno-phobes and those who insist on the "purity" of how the Camino should in their opinion be done. As they say each Camino belongs to each.Hardest Part of Shirley MacLaine's 500-Mile Pilgrimage | Oprah Winfrey Network by ivar posted A moment ago
I read her book and i didnt liked it. My wife said its a book wrote by an ACTRESS.Where in the world did she get the idea one had to beg for food and not make friends? I know we each walk our own Camino but (having read her book) I'm not sure we walked the same terrain!!
Sorry, no offense but dementia or memory loss doesn't explain that silliness she was spewing out.She was 60 when she walked it. At present she´s 80 ( 24 April 1934 ) . 20 years have passed since she walked it and that her age memory tends to play tricks on you.
Ondo Ibili !
I have never even remotely heard of the notion that one does not make friends and has to beg for food on the Camino.Maybe other pilgrims along the way told Shirley about the 'no friends' rule
Maybe other pilgrims along the way told Shirley about the 'no friends' rule
I'm sure Ms. MacLaine will be quite alright.Shirley MacLaine is a singer, dancer, activist, author and Academy Award Winner , winner of all the top awards and the American Film Institute Lifetime Achievement Award. I have also spent time around actors - my own daughter is one. They, like everyone else, are well-rounded individuals entitled to their own ideas and opinions. I've never read her books, but her talent, along with her brother's (Warren Beatty) has enriched my theatre experience for years and I do feel a bit sad that "pilgrims" would tear her up so and show no respect for her as a person.
Balony. We all know Jim who walked with no money, suffered two strokes and recently died. It was his way. Perhaps she decided making friends would negate her own experience in some way but, at her age, expressed it as best she could her reasons. No need to laugh at her. No need whatsoever. Plain and simple, she is on Oprah because she is a living legend and any thinking person should know that. It's what Oprah does. Shirley is entitled to her world view without being laughed at - especially by so-called pilgrims.I'm sure Ms. MacLaine will be quite alright.
I think it's not so much that what she said was an "opinion". It was just plain made-up stuff. The begging for food and not supposed to make friends bit while on the Camino. It actually portrays a negative picture towards it, and I suppose that is why there are so many responses to it on here. It's bound to stir the pot.
Per Merriam-Webster. Don't say nuthin bout not being able to make comments about actors....Balony. We all know Jim who walked with no money, suffered two strokes and recently died. It was his way. Perhaps she decided making friends would negate her own experience in some way but, at her age, expressed it as best she could her reasons. No need to laugh at her. No need whatsoever. Plain and simple, she is on Oprah because she is a living legend and any thinking person should know that. It's what Oprah does. Shirley is entitled to her world view without being laughed at - especially by so-called pilgrims.
I don't think any less of Shirley as an entertainer. I just think her book was not accurate about the camino that I had walked. I also do not like the misinformation provided to millions of Oprah viewers. Philosophically speaking, I don't think Shirley made a difference to the camino. Those who believe in what she had written and said would probably not walk. If they do, they will find out soon enough on the internet/forums or the camino itself.Shirley MacLaine is a singer, dancer, activist, author and Academy Award Winner , winner of all the top awards and the American Film Institute Lifetime Achievement Award. I have also spent time around actors - my own daughter is one. They, like everyone else, are well-rounded individuals entitled to their own ideas and opinions. I've never read her books, but her talent, along with her brother's (Warren Beatty) has enriched my theatre experience for years and I do feel a bit sad that "pilgrims" would tear her up so and show no respect for her as a person.
Yes. They will find out for themselves and make their own choices. As I said, I cannot comment on her book but I can stand up for an individual who made her choices and express that throwing stones is unkind. I also don't follow Oprah so don't know the entirety of the interview. I do know that most people are aware of her as a bit eccentric and unlikely to take her words as their own sole reference to such a pilgrimage. I also just made a similar comment as Theatregal when I just received a personal message - I have never read a Camino book or blog that was not centered around the author. Also, I might remind Peter F that a well-known American actor named Ronald Reagan became governor of California and President of the United States. The thing with a book - if you don't like it, you can put it down. There are also, I might add, no rule to make friends. My own Camino and the next 2 or 3 next year were Catholic Marion walks. I walked alone. My walks (not all listed here) are spiritual and religious. I spoke during cafe break and at dinner but yucking it up and making friends when I have hundreds at home was not my purpose and would have been a distraction for me personally. Had good times, walked alone. On purpose. So the idea that making friends is some kind of requirement of the Camino is as rediculous as suggesting she was wrong to choose not to. I'm not on here to make friends. I have as much right to express my opinion as others. I see name-calling, judging, unkindness and it is my duty (I feel) to voice it's inappropriateness. I think people can behave better than that.I don't think any less of Shirley as an entertainer. I just think her book was not accurate about the camino that I had walked. I also do not like the misinformation provided to millions of Oprah viewers. Philosophically speaking, I don't think Shirley made a difference to the camino. Those who believe in what she had written and said would probably not walk. If they do, they will find out soon enough on the internet/forums or the camino itself.
Yes. They will find out for themselves and make their own choices. As I said, I cannot comment on her book but I can stand up for an individual who made her choices and express that throwing stones is unkind. I also don't follow Oprah so don't know the entirety of the interview. I do know that most people are aware of her as a bit eccentric and unlikely to take her words as their own sole reference to such a pilgrimage. I also just made a similar comment as Theatregal when I just received a personal message - I have never read a Camino book or blog that was not centered around the author. Also, I might remind Peter F that a well-known American actor named Ronald Reagan became governor of California and President of the United States. The thing with a book - if you don't like it, you can put it down. There are also, I might add, no rule to make friends. My own Camino and the next 2 or 3 next year were (and will be)Catholic Marion walks. I walked alone. My walks (not all listed here) are spiritual and religious. I spoke during cafe break and at dinner but yucking it up and making friends when I have hundreds at home was not my purpose and would have been a distraction for me personally. Had good times, walked alone. On purpose. So the idea that making friends is some kind of requirement of the Camino is as rediculous as suggesting she was wrong to choose not to. I'm not on here to make friends. I have as much right to express mine as others. I see name-calling, judging, unkindness and it is my duty (I feel) to voice it's inappropriateness. I think people can behave better than that.
Watch it again. She explains her walk was very spiritual. I think you can cut an 80 year old some slack. I also sense some celebrity/actor bashing. A celebrity talks about her experience and is criticized as self - absorbed. A drug addict walks the trail , accounts his daily recovering, and is hailed as the greatest pilgrim ever. Double standard. Mark Lee, not sure what your dictionary message is. Teaching a third grade class? Yup, actors walk, too, lolThe point is that she didn't say, "It was my personal philosophy to walk alone, not make friends, and to beg for food," she stated, as an absolute fact, that all pilgrims are to walk alone, not make friends, and to beg for food. The failure to make that important distinction opens her up to legitimate criticism. Especially when someone of her stature is placing false information into the public about the Camino. Again, if she had said, 'It was my philosophy and person choice not to . . . " then okay.
dont message me again.Thank you for today's out loud laugh.
Shirley MacLaine is a singer, dancer, activist, author and Academy Award Winner , winner of all the top awards and the American Film Institute Lifetime Achievement Award. I have also spent time around actors - my own daughter is one. They, like everyone else, are well-rounded individuals entitled to their own ideas and opinions.
With all due respect, you flatter yourself. Please do not message me again.I apparently struck a deep nerve by pointing out that she was making statements of fact and not in any way prefacing her comments as her own personal philosophy. Regardless, misstatements of fact are fair game to criticism. The fact that someone is beloved and therefor is off limits to any criticism seems misplaced when those same defenders are so fast to criticize themselves. It scares me when certain people are deemed immune to any criticism because the defender loves them so much and has no ability to see beyond their idolism.
I've asked you twice now not to send me private messages.With all due respect, you flatter yourself. Please do not message me again.
I've asked you twice now not to send me private messages.