sleeping place between SJPP and Roncesvalles on 2 nov 2018

[willemijna vogelaar]

My friend and I wil started de Camino France on 2 nov. 2018. We want to sleep between SJPP and Roncesvalles, but the refuge Orisson is closed. Do you know another sleeping place what is open on 2 nov. 2018? We do not want to walk to first day 24 km. Thank you

 

[Deleted member 3000]

Valcarlos

 

[Rick of Rick and Peg]

The Route Napoleon, the mountain route, I believe closes on November 1. If so, you take the way through the valley and stop in the town of Valcarlos. There is an albergue there and also, I think, some private accommodation.

 

[caminka]

stop by the pilgrim office in sjpp, they have the latest info. route napoleon usually closes on november 1st, but if the weather is really good it may stay open for the first weekend of november. I think that all the accommodation on route napoleon closes down at the end of october but again, ask in the pilgrim office.

 

[mspath]

There is one albergue in Valcarlos and several casa rurals.
See all as cited on this Gronze.com list.
https://www.gronze.com/etapa/saint-jean-pied-port/valcarlos/roncesvalles

The municipal albergue is great and you can reserve there. Since the Valcarlos municipal has few beds a reservation is safest.

At times the camino path diverges off the road into the wood; in winter weather I always followed the roads parallel to the path. The roads are fine but do walk on the left-side verges facing traffic.

If you walk at dawn/dusk wear something bright and carry your light to flash towards on-coming traffic.

Between SJPdP and Valcarlos there is only one place for food/water/petrol near the old frontier; between Valcarlos and Roncesvalles there is no place for food nor potable water. Be prepared!

Good luck and Buen camino to both of you!

 

[Kathar1na]

The Route Napoleon, the mountain route, I believe closes on November 1

but if the weather is really good it may stay open for the first weekend of November.

No believe's and may's, please, it's crystal clear: Since 2015 and by order of the Government of Navarra, the Spanish section of the Route Napoleon is closed for pilgrims and other walkers every year from 1 November until 31 March:



You must go via Valcarlos.

 

[Deleted member 12253]

Its offically closed so its a non question go alternative route buen camino

 

[happymarkos]

My friend and I wil started de Camino France on 2 nov. 2018. We want to sleep between SJPP and Roncesvalles, but the refuge Orisson is closed. Do you know another sleeping place what is open on 2 nov. 2018? We do not want to walk to first day 24 km. Thank you

I agree about checking in SJ pilgrims office.
There is a wonderful albergue with a restaurant at Hunto. It may still be open.
Buen Camino
Happymark

 

[Rick of Rick and Peg]

There is a wonderful albergue with a restaurant at Hunto. It may still be open.

That is on the seasonally closed Route Napoleon.

 

[The Austrian]

I am taking the Valcarlos route on the last day of October. Just too much for me all the way to the top and into Roncesvalles on the first day. Nice Albergue, 24 beds, kitchen etc.
10.00/bed
Since you may arrive on the weekend, or after hours, the door code can be had also at the Benta Ardandegia restaurant.

 

[Deleted member 39850]

Spouse stayed in the Valcarlos municipal in August. The bartender across the street has the key if nobody is on site when you arrive.
IMHO, Valcarlos/Luzaide is a lovely little town, and the route is amazing. I went that way in 2014.

 

[Kat Kostrzewska]

Not to mention a bar at the very end of the town with tasty food, friendly service and a small shop with regional products. Valcarlos is a feel-good town. Personally, I was moved by the story of the local church.

 

[The Austrian]

Not to mention a bar at the very end of the town with tasty food, friendly service and a small shop with regional products. Valcarlos is a feel-good town. Personally, I was moved by the story of the local church.

Now Googling "History of Valcarlos Chruch"

 

[Kat Kostrzewska]

Now Googling "History of Valcarlos Chruch"

Ok. So the church was destroyed during the War of Convention and rebuilt between 1799 and 1802. On the info board you will read that “ between 9, 13 and 21 September 1803, Valcarlos applied for a loan of 26,407 reales and 13 maravedies at the annual interest rate of 13,12 percent. All Valcarlos dwellers guaranteed the loan with their properties and their lives, about the way of paying the cost of stonemasonry and carpentry works for the Church and parish house”.


I was deeply moved by the story for two different reasons. Firstly, that whole town guaranteed the loan for the church not only with their possessions but also with their lives. The second reason is more personal. This year to do the Camino I had to take a loan to buy a new bike (my old one after doing 5 Caminos has finally retired) and new GPS (last moment, my friend’s GPS happened to be not so reliable). It was important for me to do it in the spring because I wanted to publish my guide for cyclists, that I finished three years ago, but in the end, I didn’t publish it. The route does change, so I had to cycle it again. I climbed to Valcarlos, full of doubts and when I read this story I realized that perhaps I am not so crazy after all. They cleared the loan after 30 years. I will pay back my next year.

So you see, thanks to the story from the 19th century I started to climb to Ibaneta in a much better frame of mind.

 

[The Austrian]

Ok. So the church was destroyed during the War of Convention and rebuilt between 1799 and 1802. On the info board you will read that “ between 9, 13 and 21 September 1803, Valcarlos applied for a loan of 26,407 reales and 13 maravedies at the annual interest rate of 13,12 percent. All Valcarlos dwellers guaranteed the loan with their properties and their lives, about the way of paying the cost of stonemasonry and carpentry works for the Church and parish house”.


I was deeply moved by the story for two different reasons. Firstly, that whole town guaranteed the loan for the church not only with their possessions but also with their lives. The second reason is more personal. This year to do the Camino I had to take a loan to buy a new bike (my old one after doing 5 Caminos has finally retired) and new GPS (last moment, my friend’s GPS happened to be not so reliable). It was important for me to do it in the spring because I wanted to publish my guide for cyclists, that I finished three years ago, but in the end, I didn’t publish it. The route does change, so I had to cycle it again. I climbed to Valcarlos, full of doubts and when I read this story I realized that perhaps I am not so crazy after all. They cleared the loan after 30 years. I will pay back my next year.

So you see, thanks to the story from the 19th century I started to climb to Ibaneta in a much better frame of mind.

Truly inspiring. Both parts of the story!!

 

[Peter Fransiscus]

stop by the pilgrim office in sjpp, they have the latest info. route napoleon usually closes on november 1st, but if the weather is really good it may stay open for the first weekend of november. I think that all the accommodation on route napoleon closes down at the end of october but again, ask in the pilgrim office.

Route Napoleon is closed from November 1th. since 2015 .

 

[Kat Kostrzewska]

Truly inspiring. Both parts of the story!!

Thank you so much! Buen Camino and say hello to Valcarlos. I hope that you will have good weather

 

[Thornley]

My friend and I wil started de Camino France on 2 nov. 2018. We want to sleep between SJPP and Roncesvalles, but the refuge Orisson is closed. Do you know another sleeping place what is open on 2 nov. 2018? We do not want to walk to first day 24 km. Thank you

To put it bluntly Willem , if you go over the top you are endangering the lives of others.....not too worried about you mate if you disobey this simple Govt instruction.
Valcarlos is a beautiful Basque village where you will be well looked after.
DO NOT GO OVER THE TOP , regardless of advice from anyone in STJPdP