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A question about the “vicarie pro”. Wondering, is it only allowed for those who are deceased? I have always requested it for the living.
I believe you can request it in the name of a person who is unable to walk themselves because of disability. Though I cannot find any definite authority for that.A question about the “vicarie pro”. Wondering, is it only allowed for those who are deceased? I have always requested it for the living.
I haven’t checked on Mrs HtD for a couple of hours; but I obtained a compostela VP herself in February. I wasn’t actually asked for a reason.I believe you can request it in the name of a person who is unable to walk themselves because of disability. Though I cannot find any definite authority for that.
A question about the “vicarie pro”. Wondering, is it only allowed for those who are deceased? I have always requested it for the living.
It is my understanding and direct experience from working in the Pilgrim Office over some eight years, that the "In Vicare Pro" add-on to a Compostela is for the deceased, and for those, whose age or physical condition effectively precludes that person from ever walking a Camino to earn the Compostela themselves.A question about the “vicarie pro”. Wondering, is it only allowed for those who are deceased? I have always requested it for the living.
As I understand the situation, there are some inaccurate statements such as as pilgrims needing to take confession before getting a Compostela.Don't know if this helps
I didn't read it that way. At the point where confession is mentioned the writer is talking about an indulgence which does require confession and receiving holy communion amongst other religious conditions. Though it is easy to get confused about the relationship between the Compostela and a plenary indulgence.As I understand the situation, there are some inaccurate statements such as as pilgrims needing to take confession before getting a Compostela.
It is my understanding and direct experience from working in the Pilgrim Office over some eight years, that the "In Vicare Pro" add-on to a Compostela is for the deceased, and for those, whose age or physical condition effectively precludes that person from ever walking a Camino to earn the Compostela themselves.
The office staff and volunteers have literally seen everything, and heard every rationale under the sun. But, in my personal experience, they are very compassionate and understanding. In an highly unque situation, if an accommodation can be found, they will find it.
In those circumstances, it shouldn't have been given out as this isn't the intended purpose of such a dedication. In my experience, most pilgrims who request a compostela In Vicare Pro are already aware and are respectful of the tradition.Hi!
Not sure if i am on the right track here!
When i walked in 2021 i went to the desk and asked can i have my Compostela in my children s names.
(My kids are alive and well no one asked y questions)
Volunteer wanted their names and then handed me the Compostela.
Woody
In those circumstances, it shouldn't have been given out as this isn't the intended purpose of such a dedication. In my experience, most pilgrims who request a compostela In Vicare Pro are already aware and are respectful of the tradition.
Of course it should also be noted, staff and volunteers are human for the most part and as such aren't infallible and don't always get everything right.
Can you have two separate if you are walking for 2 intentions, one who passed away and one fighting against cancer? I would like to present it to them or their loved ones.
Scrolling through the forums and found this thread. First I've heard of it so a little late with my questions...
How does this work? Is the Vicarie Pro a separate document/compostela? Do you have to make your intent known when signing up for the QR code or request it when you arrive at the Pilgrim's Office? Do you need a separate Credencial for it?
How does this work? Is the Vicarie Pro a separate document/compostela? Do you have to make your intent known when signing up for the QR code or request it when you arrive at the Pilgrim's Office? Do you need a separate Credencial for it?
There are NO rights or benefits associated with a Compostela. It is merely a recognition of a completed pilgrimage, and in vicarie pro indicates your dedication of that pilgrimage to another person.From my time in the PO, I have helped a few pilgrims with this. The PO never asked any questions, but issued it promptly. I think it is between you and your concience if you are asking for this for a rightful/deserved reason.
The Vicario Pro is an add-on to your compostela. It will be handwritten on it. It enables a pilgrim to have his Compostela issued to him in his name, but to have added on it "In Vicario Pro "name": "In the name of "name"".
By doing this, you are the walker/pilgrim but the person "name" will receive the benefit of your Compostela. To be even more precise: The Compostela is issued in your name, but you have transferred your Compostela rights & benefits to the other person "name".
I did it myself once, in the name of a poor young man who was brutally murdered. His Catholic mother was very happy, knowing that her son was forgiven whatever sins he might had done in life, avoiding purgatory, and going straight to Heaven. Must make another walk for myself to be absolutely safe...
What i really meant.There are NO rights or benefits associated with a Compostela. It is merely a recognition of a completed pilgrimage, and in vicarie pro indicates your dedication of that pilgrimage to another person.
Using Google to search for images of Compostelas with the text I've found "Vicarie pro" and "Vicari pro" but none have had "in" or "In".One more clarification....
Is it "In vicare pro" or "in vacarie pro" or "in vicario pro" (three options that I've seen above) or something else? Perhaps someone with a Compostela with the phrase can check?
I'm wondering if I can mark my credential similarly.
I don't have a Compostela to check but I had wondered about this Latin phrase and its grammatical form recently.One more clarification.... Is it "In vicare pro" or "in vacarie pro" or "in vicario pro" (three options that I've seen above) or something else? Perhaps someone with a Compostela with the phrase can check?
No, sorry, It is not possible.Can you have two separate if you are walking for 2 intentions, one who passed away and one fighting against cancer? I would like to present it to them or their loved ones.