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It makes sense what you are saying.just remember to take time out and enjoy the experience 30-39km day after day after day, will take it's toll in some form. I'm doing Logrono to Santiago in 24. I learned from two previous failed attempts that trying to stick to extreme deadlines can be demotivating if you have any kind of hiccup, injury, sickness, or romance.
Having said that, even if walking 25km per day you are usually well at your destination by 1pm depending upon how long you stop for breafast or lunch. so there is definitely ample time for another 10km as long as all is well physically
No it’s not a physical challenge.Most likely you will succeed ..... but - it may happen that due to fatigue and / or lack of time, you will not enjoy all that Camino also enable: rests with coffee wherever you like, exploring towns and churches and chapels, moments admiring many stuning views, chat with pilgrims or locals,...... On my first Camino, my average day was 30km. Physically, it was not a problem (at that time I was 56 years old). But - never again. Much more beauty, peace, joy ... I have if my average is 20-25km per day. Of course, this is true for me. Maybe your motivation is also a physical challenge
I would like to share with you guys my itinerary.....
Can I write here or I need to open a new topic?
Ok I will.....Why not post here, since you've already introduced yourself and given some background on your planning and walking abilities. Planning and tweaking is all part of the Camino. And everyone love to get into the act!
I agree with you, but this time it will be like this.Itineraries are wonderful things to help with preparation. I often make them, usually to work out the date for my return ticket. I always throw in a couple of extra days for the unexpected. And strikes by train drivers.
And then I throw my itinerary away as soon as I start walking. Because I meet people who are interesting and want to stay with them, or it is raining and more fun to hole up early in a bar, or the day is glorious and cool and the far horizon calls me to walk further, or there is a pulpo fiesta in the next town I don't want to miss so I hurry ahead, or a new albergue has just opened and it looks good.
For me one of the essential joys of being on camino is the freedom.
Will see!!! I hope my body will respond well.......It is not always a matter of slowing down - sometimes I actually walk further than expected. It's a mindset thing.
Andrea, I've looked at your proposed itinerary. It is ambitious. Go for it, but do not judge yourself if you finish up on a bus. Walking a long distance once a week is very different to walking that distance day after day after day. You really don't know how your body will react. You may be fine. Or not. It is sometimes like the weather - unpredictable.
May the flowers bloom for you, and your path be sweet!
Thanks!!!Andy, you look young. You are training. You have done research. your plan is made, for this time. So, begin. See how you go. adapt, but make sure you walk the required 100km before Santiago if you want a Compostela. Keep us posted on your progress. I wish you Buen Camino, and hopefully your next one with your fiancee will let you take more time to enjoy the camino together.
Yes, you are wrong. Some people have indicated that on the way you might come across a hitch, meaning that you could find the schedule tight. In that case, if you had to take a bus, I was just suggesting to make sure to do it before the final 100km. Sorry if you thought I was inferring otherwise. I was not.Thanks!!!
Of course I will walk the last 100km. I planned to walk from Pamplona to Santiago!!! Why you said make sure to walk the last 100km?! Sound like you think I will use the bus to walk to Santiago. Am I wrong?
Sorry to me for the misunderstanding!Yes, you are wrong. Some people have indicated that on the way you might come across a hitch, meaning that you could find the schedule tight. In that case, if you had to take a bus, I was just suggesting to make sure to do it before the final 100km. Sorry if you thought I was inferring otherwise. I was not.
I decided Pamplona because my daddy started there.Out of curiosity, why did you choose Pamplona as your starting point? And why exactly 21 days?
I’ll walk starting everyday at 6 am.
hi ! if you want, you can do, I am 63 years old and last year I did sjpp-santiago in 23 ... .... the daily distance varies depending on the terrain .... and the places you want to visit ! buen camino !!!Will see!!! I hope my body will respond well.......
I know people of near 60 that walked like me day after day after day the Camino.
So again fingers crossed
Hi Maurizio, Finally I found someone that did the walk in almost the same time as I will.hi ! if you want, you can do, I am 63 years old and last year I did sjpp-santiago in 23 ... .... the daily distance varies depending on the terrain .... and the places you want to visit ! buen camino !!!
No it’s not a physical challenge.
I have something deeper than that
I understand that I won’t have enough time (maybe) to enjoy the Camino, but I only have 3 weeks and I want to do it in once as my dad did before he passed away a few years ago.
Thanks...... if something should go wrong I’ll keep in mind!regarding the bus, the best spotI can find for the bus is the approach into Leon, keep that in your mind if, for whatever reason, you need to 'make up time'
I decide to walk alone because I really looking forward to stay with only myself. I need it. Otherwise I have my fiancé that wishing to come with me but I stopped her because....... well I’ll say it another time.If you go your way for a very special reason, as you would like to do it, that can give you great power.
It will certainly be a big challenge, both physically and mentally.
You will walk a lot alone, because very few pilgrims walk so long stages. You will rarely meet anybody you already know. The path will bring you to your limits - that can be very nice too.
I like that you have set such a great goal in memory of your father. For sure you will meet him on the way, especially when you least expect it - probably more intense and emotional than you can meet him in Santiago Cathedral.
Start the way YOU think it is right for you now, be open to change and listen to your feeling, your body and your inner voice.
I wish you, that it will be a fulfilled way and you get answers to questions that you do not even know at the moment.
thanks for all these informations.I hope it works out for you. In the case though that you fall behind a bit and completing the camino all the way to SdC under your own power in the allotted time is more important just walking until you run out of time you could rent a bicycle. The below is a cut-and-paste from another post of mine.
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One thing to consider if you want to do the camino under your power but don't have enough time to walk the whole way is to rent a bicycle for the meseta section. (I am neither for nor against doing this; I'm just just presenting the idea.)
In Burgos (and maybe even earlier in Logrono) you can rent bikes to be returned in Leon or Astorga. Burgos and Astorga are end points of the meseta where the Camino Frances runs. Roughly, they are 240 kilometers apart (that's 150 miles) and that should be able to be biked in four days, maybe three. Brierley's guidebook suggests 10 days to walk this distance so this could shave a week off the time you need to do your camino.
There are a number of places where you can rent. Here are some links I've collected (but the list may not be complete):
Some other thoughts:
- For more help you can also use this forum's search function to check out bicycle bike rental. This link will do that for you: bicycle bike rental
- The forum also has a bicyle sub-forum at https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/forums/biking-the-camino.24/
- I've read that there are good resources on http://bicigrino.com/en/
- The rental cost of the bike is partially offset by the savings of a week's food and lodging costs.
- Biking means that you will leave behind your newly-found pilgrim friends (often called your camino family.)
Hi, your post is making and keeping myself more and more sure of what I’m going to do.I did SJPP to SdC in 24 days at the age of 50. My first day was to Orrison which was 7km and my last day was from Monte do Gozo which was 5km. I started slowly, doing only 20-30km per day the first week. I highly recommend limiting yourself to that as you acclimate to the daily rigors of walking. By the last week I was able to walk 30-40km days easily. I found it really wasn't hard to walk those distances, you just had to walk later in the day. My longest day was 58km on my second to last day and it was sublime. I haven't felt so strong before or since.
Good luck and I would like to follow your progress.
Thanks you so much!@AndyTomas , greetings and I have studied your daily trip intentions with great interest.
I also note you will also walk with your fiancee next year. And I note that you wish to do as your dad has done.
My purpose in writing is to support your courage.
And in doing that I know that things don't always go to plan.
In my view your plan is achievable under the best conditions. With 6 am starts and OK weather and good conditions underfoot and your strength holding up.
Some suggestions if you strike problems:
I would rather you could feel open to completing next year and that you avoid any sense of failure this year.
- before Sarria do not be afraid to hitch or take buses
- don't be afraid to stop where you are before your last day and return to that place next year, with your fiancee and complete. If you stop at or before Sarria you will both get a Compostela.
For your journey, @AndyTomas , I say kia kaha (take care, be strong, get going)
Hi guys,
I will walk from Pamplona to Santiago in only 21 days. Average 30 to 39 km at day.
Starting the 29 April 2019 and finish the 21 May 2019.
Anyone is doing same walking as me and. Same days?
Looking forward to hear from all of you
If you are fit and used to long distances and enjoy walking the whole day (like I do) I would say that it is no problem at all and you will have a lovely experience. I walked från SJpdP in 23 days and was in Pamplona my second day so I had 21 days from Pamplona. My stages are here: https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/my-stages-for-the-camino-frances-in-23-days.20768/Hi guys,
I will walk from Pamplona to Santiago in only 21 days. Average 30 to 39 km at day.
Starting the 29 April 2019 and finish the 21 May 2019.
Anyone is doing same walking as me and. Same days?
Looking forward to hear from all of you
Pamplona to Lorca 37.9
Lorca to Los Arcos 30.5
Los arcos to Logrono 28.5
Logrono to Azofra 35.5
Azofra to Beldorado 39
Beldorado to Atapurca 30.7
Atapurca to Burgos 20.2
Burgos to Hontanas 32.1
Hontanas to Proclation de campos 38.8
Proclamation de campos to Caldizza de cuere 33.6
Caldizza to El Burgos ranero 41.1
El Burgos Ranero to Leon 38.5
Leon to Hospital de Obrigo 32.9
Hospital de Obrigo to Rabanal de Camino 38.2
Rabanal de Camino to Ponferrada 33.3
Ponferrada to Trabadelo 33.3
Trbadelo to Fonfria 31.1
Fronfia to Sarria 34.8
Sarria to Castromaior 32.6
Castromaior to Melide 31
Melide to A Rúa (Arco de Pino) 32.8
A Rùa (Arco de Pino) to Santiago 21.2
This is my itinerary
I know someone will agree with it and someone else not, but the Camino is something very personal so no judgment
Looking forward to hear from you guys
This is a golden information.Your plan has you doing Sarria to Santiago in 4 days. Aim to get 3 stamps per day on those days so there's no problem getting your compostela.
The rule requires 2 stamps per stage/day for the last 100 km, but most people take 5 days. Since you are moving fast, you may cause some confusion about having less than 10 stamps, so aim for a few more to show your progression.
Stay hydrated!!!
Heck, there are even people sitting by the side of the road offering stamps, especially in this section.Before Sarria, where you sleep is enough although some people get stamps everywhere for fun.
Bars, churches, shops, pretty much everywhere has a stamp. When you pause for coffee, lunch, get a stamp.
Doesn’t matter how fast I will walk....... my dad will walk with me all my journey and he will give the strength and the joy.My only advice would be to allow yourself a bit of leeway for synchronicity and to pay attention to opportunities to find it. If you are solely focused on your agenda, you might miss the quiet moments you could have with your father. They could be invitations to pause where he did.
Thanks for this information!!!Yes, throughout the Camino, 1 stamp per day is enough until you reach Sarria, then you need 2 stamps per day. The reason is that the Pilgrims Office wants to try to ensure that those who get their compostela really did walk the last 100 km (no buses, taxis, etc). People seem to average about 5 days between Sarria and Santiago. With your daily distances, you'll only have 3 days between Sarria and Santiago, which is less than average, and might result in questions about whether or not you walked the whole way or took transportation to jump ahead. Having 3 stamps per day on that section should show that you are walking.
So I looked at your plan and have some questions. Your stages are a bit uneven, your stops are there places you want to visit? Do you want to stay in the bigger cities? I would actually recommend a shorter first day unless you have a day or so before. Time difference etc. and then walk a little bit longer day 2 instead. Then the length would match your training days a bit more and you don't shock your body the first day (but you know your body the best). Have you checked the elevation maps for those days you have longer stages? Long and hilly at the same time can be a really long day as well as a 20 km on flat surface is a short 3,5-4 h and then you are done. A rest day For me it looks like a"normal" plan but make sure to listen to the body especially in the beginning. Towards the end your body is more used to the walking and the longer distances comes more naturally and some lost time in the beginning can easily be compensated then. I haven't had time to check all your stops but a good thing to do is to make sure that if you have a day close to 40 km make sure that your planned stop isn't one with a long stretch to the next available albergue (maybe never the case on CF) if you come late and it is "completo". Have done some 50+ due to that during my own caminos.Pamplona to Lorca 37.9
Lorca to Los Arcos 30.5
Los arcos to Logrono 28.5
Logrono to Azofra 35.5
Azofra to Beldorado 39
Beldorado to Atapurca 30.7
Atapurca to Burgos 20.2
Burgos to Hontanas 32.1
Hontanas to Proclation de campos 38.8
Proclamation de campos to Caldizza de cuere 33.6
Caldizza to El Burgos ranero 41.1
El Burgos Ranero to Leon 38.5
Leon to Hospital de Obrigo 32.9
Hospital de Obrigo to Rabanal de Camino 38.2
Rabanal de Camino to Ponferrada 33.3
Ponferrada to Trabadelo 33.3
Trbadelo to Fonfria 31.1
Fronfia to Sarria 34.8
Sarria to Castromaior 32.6
Castromaior to Melide 31
Melide to A Rúa (Arco de Pino) 32.8
A Rùa (Arco de Pino) to Santiago 21.2
This is my itinerary
I know someone will agree with it and someone else not, but the Camino is something very personal so no judgment
Looking forward to hear from you guys
You’re likely a young fit lad so go for it Andy T. I hope you keep us posted on how you go.Pamplona to Lorca 37.9
Lorca to Los Arcos 30.5
Los arcos to Logrono 28.5
Logrono to Azofra 35.5
Azofra to Beldorado 39
Beldorado to Atapurca 30.7
Atapurca to Burgos 20.2
Burgos to Hontanas 32.1
Hontanas to Proclation de campos 38.8
Proclamation de campos to Caldizza de cuere 33.6
Caldizza to El Burgos ranero 41.1
El Burgos Ranero to Leon 38.5
Leon to Hospital de Obrigo 32.9
Hospital de Obrigo to Rabanal de Camino 38.2
Rabanal de Camino to Ponferrada 33.3
Ponferrada to Trabadelo 33.3
Trbadelo to Fonfria 31.1
Fronfia to Sarria 34.8
Sarria to Castromaior 32.6
Castromaior to Melide 31
Melide to A Rúa (Arco de Pino) 32.8
A Rùa (Arco de Pino) to Santiago 21.2
This is my itinerary
I know someone will agree with it and someone else not, but the Camino is something very personal so no judgment
Looking forward to hear from you guys
Andy, congrats. You are about to start on the journey of a lifetime. Take care, and you will achieve what you have dreamed of. Buen camino. Keep us up to date with your travels.I just arrived at Pamplona.
Tomorrow will be my first day .......
Looking forward for it
Buen Camino!I just arrived at Pamplona.
Tomorrow will be my first day .......
Looking forward for it
No the last 100Km is the most important to get the certificate.Thanks!!!
Of course I will walk the last 100km. I planned to walk from Pamplona to Santiago!!! Why you said make sure to walk the last 100km?! Sound like you think I will use the bus to walk to Santiago. Am I wrong?
For me it was the bus leaving Leon!regarding the bus, the best spotI can find for the bus is the approach into Leon, keep that in your mind if, for whatever reason, you need to 'make up time'