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But what you have marked in red is not what Buen Camino is doing in your snapshot from them. Maybe it is what they want to do but it isn't what their track does. Your red track leaves the main road when the main road is still going a little south of due west, before it turns north. Their GPS track leaves the road well after it has turned north, about half way up. As such, it doesn't follow that track you have it going along.I am taking comfort in the fact that I haven’t been the only pilgrim to have fLund this confusing…
But in an effort to help future pilgrims, I’ve tried to compare the Buen Camino and Gronze maps. And I apologize to the Buen Camino folks, because it looks like their route makes the most sense.
Here’s a screenshot of the Buen Camino map:
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Here‘s a screenshot of the Gronze map, with my red arrows marking what looks to me like the Buen Camino route:
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Gronze routes you to Casona de Navalmedio. Not sure why, as @m108 noted, as it’s pretty far out of the way. And if you stay on the paved M601, that takes you way out of the way.
David that’s what the Buen Camino App shows more or less. I think the App has you go just a little more up the road then the red arrows show, the pic from M108 is a little more exact. Did you download a map from them that might be different?But what you have marked in red is not what Buen Camino is doing in your snapshot from them. Maybe it is what they want to do but it isn't what their track does. Your red track leaves the main road when the main road is still going a little south of due west, before it turns north. Their GPS track leaves the road well after it has turned north, about half way up. As such, it doesn't follow that track you have it going along.
Here's what Buen Camino shows me. Laurie's route has you leaving GR-10 before you round the corner. The Buen Camino map shows you rounding the corner and heading a considerable amount up the road before leaving the GR-10. Before you turn the corner, there is a path to go on, as shown on the Gronze map. After you turn the corner and head up the road, there is nothing. At least nothing that I and a helpful local could find.David that’s what the Buen Camino App shows more or less. I think the App has you go just a little more up the road then the red arrows show, the pic from M108 is a little more exact. Did you download a map from them that might be different?
I get what you’re saying now. I thought you were saying your version do Buen Camino was having you do either of the “deviations” in the pictures below. I’ll look in September to see if I see Laurie’s route and report back if someone else doesn’t before then. Buen Camino!Here's what Buen Camino shows me. Laurie's route has you leaving GR-10 before you round the corner. The Buen Camino map shows you rounding the corner and heading a considerable amount up the road before leaving the GR-10. Before you turn the corner, there is a path to go on, as shown on the Gronze map. After you turn the corner and head up the road, there is nothing. At least nothing that I and a helpful local could find.
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For IGN routes I've been using their GPS tracks on a Google Map. Using their own app is a good idea.I looked up this location with the IGN Mapas de España app. The Camino de Madrid & GR 10 is the blue line. The cross hairs are at the northern point of the camino as marked by yellow arrows (See David's pink highted route in the map at post #1). That location is at the coordinates below.
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What dates are you traveling? If I’m ahead of you I’ll send you an update!I shall be walking the Madrid for the second time this fall. Having read this thread and looked at all the diagrams, I cannot at present make any sense of any of it, except that the camino route seems to lead out of a more major road which goes left to Cercedilla. I hope to meet a local out walking whom I can follow into town.
I don’t think there’s any problem just several different paths there, one better than the other. I’ll try and see if it’s obvious and let you know.Thank you. I'm leaving Madrid for Tres Cantos on Oct. 2nd, to Manzanaras el Real the next day, then on Oct. 4th to Cercedilla. Oddly, I don't recall any problem getting there on my previous walk. Only the variety of maps and markings here confuses me.
I walked the same year you did ,Albertagirl and can't remember any confusion before Cercedilla. I just followed the arrows. Look forward to your posts from second Camino Madrid.Thank you. I'm leaving Madrid for Tres Cantos on Oct. 2nd, to Manzanaras el Real the next day, then on Oct. 4th to Cercedilla. Oddly, I don't recall any problem getting there on my previous walk. Only the variety of maps and markings here confuses me.
I plan to walk the Madrid starting on 11 Sep and will be posting on here so if anything is awry I will probably mention it.I shall be walking the Madrid for the second time this fall. Having read this thread and looked at all the diagrams, I cannot at present make any sense of any of it, except that the camino route seems to lead out of a more major road which goes left to Cercedilla. I hope to meet a local out walking whom I can follow into town.
See my post later in the thread. The app is wrong and one is following arrows you could end up on either route. Someone could get hurt crossing where the Buen Camino app showsDavid, I see I was confusing the M601 with the narrow paved road. You’re right, the Buen Camino route does follow the paved road (not the M601) for quite a while. As I recall, I couldn’t find a path leaving the paved road where BC says you should, thus my bushwhacking episode. It’s still better than the Gronze route, which takes you all the way up to Casona.
I like my route the best! In fact when I zoomed in on the Buen Camino app, it looks like it’s labeled as the “Manazares El Real Cercedilla“ path (unpaved). Derek, please do let us know what you find!
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Derek,See my post later in the thread. The app is wrong and one is following arrows you could end up on either route. Someone could get hurt crossing where the Buen Camino app shows
I did the same much to the chagrin of the Spanish peregrina I was walking with. When she saw how we connected to the cow path she was apprehensive until we saw arrows on the main path. (She has a fear of 1000lb animals with sharp horns for some reason…)Derek,
Thank you for taking the time (and effort) to clarify this. I can attest to the danger in trying to follow the Buen Camino map — I finally gave up, left the road and made my own path. Not advisable. I’ll try to send a message to the BC folks. They really need to fix this.
Have a wonderful walk on the Madrid!
Laurie
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