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You are not alone [I would like to know more about this subject], I had no idea that the saint's body parts were found in so many places. Feliz Navidad, y que la luz de Dios alumbre su camino.. . . this bit of information is important for my own personal reasons . . .
Very very easy. As you walk through Jaffa Gate into the Old City, turn right past the Citadel and David's Tower (worth a visit too) walk down a very narrow arched street (watch for cars!) maybe 200 meters on the left. The small entrance square is open all day, above the entrance you will see a painting resembling the Veil of Veronica, but with the face of Saint James. Very nice, h-o-w-e-v-e-r, the church will be shut tight. In order to experience the true spirit of the church come for their Vespers at 3:00PM - positively Medeival in a manner you have probably never witnessed! The chapel above the crypt of Saint James is found to the left as you enter the church, candles may be purchased as you enter from the street.@scruffy1 I am very glad I ran into your post. I am heading to Jerusalem this coming Saturday. Could you give me please the location of St James Cathedral in Jerusalem. I would love to visit. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Poor Saint James!Someone from the UK Confraternity of St. James might wish to comment.
http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/13393182.Mummified_hand_of_St_James_is_returned/
See for example @sillydoll's list in this thread :I had no idea that the saint's body parts were found in so many places.
See for example @sillydoll's list [OF SAINT JAMES' RELICS] in this thread :
- 3 bodies in France (an authentic relic in Toulouse), and one in Spain (Santiago)
- 9 heads in France and numerous limbs
- 1 head in Jerusalem (it's still there in the Church of St James the Less)
- 5 heads in Italy (2 in Venice, 1 in Valencia, 1 in Amalfi, 1 in Artois)
May he rest in pieces.Poor Saint James!
. . .a bit of his arm in France, and there is a spurious Italian claim for another bit. . .
Somewhere in and amongst my papers, a bit of his forearm if I remember correctly.Any idea where?
@Rick of Rick and Peg ...that is a terrible pun.
(Heeheheheeeheeeheeeheee....)
Edit: That map is something else, @Kathar1na . Thank you for posting it.
Indeed.your post is indeed of interest, so well done
I hesitate to reply because this may well lead into an exchange where the heavy hand of the moderators will appearWhat would a DNA test tell us I wonder. I mean no disrespect to the pilgrims who walk for religious reasons.
I don't think this deserves any further comment on this thread but, regarding remains of the Buddha, a 45 minute long documentary was televised on America's Public Broadcasting Service. A description of the documentary can be found on the Wikipedia page for Bones of the Buddha. The documentary itself can be watched via this URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn3lk6xTF24. Also a search for Bones of the Buddha on YouTube will bring up a few clips about a recent find in China.people venerate relics from cremations of the Buddha
Yes. Beautifully put, Katharina.No matter what such a relic means to an individual, it is a carrier and a witness to 900 years of prayers.
See for example @sillydoll's list in this thread :
Below is a visual display of locations with Saint James' relics in France alone throughout the centuries, ranging from whole bodies (diamant shaped icon) to heads or fragments of skulls (circle), limbs, other bones (rectangle) and even a hair of the apostle's beard (sun shaped icon):
- 3 bodies in France (an authentic relic in Toulouse), and one in Spain (Santiago)
- 9 heads in France and numerous limbs
- 1 head in Jerusalem (it's still there in the Church of St James the Less)
- 5 heads in Italy (2 in Venice, 1 in Valencia, 1 in Amalfi, 1 in Artois)
May he rest in pieces.
I may be required to walk the CF backward and barefoot.My laughter at this post may force an extra km on next camino.
You're darn right, Rick. Dragging a ginormous cross. That one post caused no end of unseemly giggling and guffawing out here.I may be required to walk the CF backward and barefoot.
Still only 4 legs, 4 arms and 2 heads though!Well, there were two apostles named James ("our" James the Greater and "the other" James the Lessor), so I guess there's more than enough relics to go around.
Brings to mind 7 loaves and a few fish feeding five thousand, but in a skeletal non edible manner.
No no no, reelics are never lost, stolen, misplaced, or forgotten. Relics are translated! SeeI hesitate to reply because this may well lead into an exchange where the heavy hand of the moderators will appear. However, I read something interesting yesterday which I'd like to share and it may be of interest to people walking from Paris.
Most of the relics with a location shown in the map above have disappeared, either destroyed, stolen, lost or perhaps somewhere in the storing rooms and nobody knows it or they are just not on display. The ones still present today are marked with an asterisk in the map.
The relic kept in Arras, venerated throughout the centuries as the head of Saint James, has a long and interesting story, see (in French): Les tribulations d’un chef de saint Jacques : Arras, Aire-sur-la-Lys, Cappelle-Brouck, Tours, Douai. And there is a new development: a year ago, in November 2016, a small fragment of the famous relic was donated to the Saint James church in Montrouge, a Southern suburb of Paris, and people who walk the contemporary way to Santiago from Paris will pass through Montrouge and can stop there to pray to the Apostle, as many did before them in Arras and Aire-sur-la-Lys where (parts of) the same relic was kept in the Middle Ages. No matter what such a relic means to an individual, it is a carrier and a witness to 900 years of prayers.
The fragment in question was too small to date, as far as I understand. A French institute that deals with such matters, for example carbon dating, stated that in general the age of such relics is usually within 100 years of the age of the document that first mentions the relic.
Well said. I would expound, but that would lead to stretching the limits of the forum rules....we shouldn't get too bogged down in particular boxes of bones and who they may belong to but to our higher calling which is God.
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