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Amazing how contracting the media, particularly CBC's consumer report services, makes the most amazing turn-arounds in company policy. Very good news on your tussle with WestJet.Good news! Full cash refund so no doubt the pressure from the media had a little something to do with that! Rebooked with AF just now. Thanks all for the support.
Normally I would be able to figure this out … however…
If I understand correctly:
Fully vaccinated Canadians arriving Spain dont need to have a COVID test (providing they are vaccinated with an EU approved vaccine which rules out Astra Seneca/ COVISHIELD)
However upon returning to Canada, the same fully vaccinated Canadians dont need to quarantine but still do need to get a PCR COVID test prior to boarding at their expense and then again upon arrival into Canada (at the government’s expense)
Does anybody have a different opinion ?
Also it's still not clear to me who covers the cost of the test once back in Canada.Normally I would be able to figure this out … however…
If I understand correctly:
Fully vaccinated Canadians arriving Spain dont need to have a COVID test (providing they are vaccinated with an EU approved vaccine which rules out Astra Seneca/ COVISHIELD)
However upon returning to Canada, the same fully vaccinated Canadians dont need to quarantine but still do need to get a PCR COVID test prior to boarding at their expense and then again upon arrival into Canada (at the government’s expense)
Does anybody have a different opinion ?
Current (27 July 2021) rules:Fully vaccinated Canadians arriving Spain dont need to have a COVID test (providing they are vaccinated with an EU approved vaccine which rules out Astra Seneca/ COVISHIELD)
This is interesting that France accepts the AstraSeneca Covidshield vaccineVaccine Checker: Which Vaccine is Approved for International Travel?
If you are planning to travel anytime soon but are unaware whether the vaccine you have been vaccinated with is accepted as valid proof of COVID-19 immunity by your destination country, you can find out through our vaccine checker. To use the Covid Vaccine Checker for Travelling Abroad, select...visaguide.world
you are correct except according to the this tracker, AstraZeneca Covishield is accepted in France and Spain.
Thanks - this is very helpful !Current (27 July 2021) rules:
The link posted earlier - https://airfrance.traveldoc.aero - is useful and up to date in real time. Enter your departure and arrival airports to see the relevant information.
- Canadians flying directly from Canada to Spain (whether vaccinated or not) do not need to present proof of vaccination nor a negative test result nor proof of earlier illness.
- Canadians flying directly from Canada to France (who are vaccinated) must have a Covid-19 vaccination certificate. France recognises the AstraZeneca/Covishield vaccin as a valid vaccin for these purposes. No test required for this category of travellers from Canada to France.
- Canadians flying directly from Canada to Portugal (whether vaccinated or not) must hold either a negative RT-PCR test result (or similar NAAT test) tested within 72 hours prior to boarding, or a Rapid Antigen Test tested within 48 hours prior to boarding.
I understand the government pays for the second testAlso it's still not clear to me who covers the cost of the test once back in Canada.
Where are you getting the information about a second test being needed on arrival?Normally I would be able to figure this out … however…
If I understand correctly:
Fully vaccinated Canadians arriving Spain dont need to have a COVID test (providing they are vaccinated with an EU approved vaccine which rules out Astra Seneca/ COVISHIELD)
However upon returning to Canada, the same fully vaccinated Canadians dont need to quarantine but still do need to get a PCR COVID test prior to boarding at their expense and then again upon arrival into Canada (at the government’s expense)
Does anybody have a different opinion ?
That is my understanding!Normally I would be able to figure this out … however…
If I understand correctly:
Fully vaccinated Canadians arriving Spain dont need to have a COVID test (providing they are vaccinated with an EU approved vaccine which rules out Astra Seneca/ COVISHIELD)
However upon returning to Canada, the same fully vaccinated Canadians dont need to quarantine but still do need to get a PCR COVID test prior to boarding at their expense and then again upon arrival into Canada (at the government’s expense)
Does anybody have a different opinion ?
My understanding is that fully vaccinated travelers into Canada will need a pre arrival test and a post arrival test. This is what i understand from the government website. “Where are you getting the information about a second test being needed on arrival?
See "Getting Tested to Enter Canada" at https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/t...ovid-19-testing-travellers-coming-into-canada
That is our federal travel advisory board site. There is no mention of a second test required *EXCEPT* if you have a layover, still in the EU or elsewhere outside Canada, that will cause your initial departure test to time out at 72 hours prior to arrival in Canada. If you have such layover (let's say: Iceland, for a daylong layover, for example), then you will need to be re-tested prior to boarding your connecting flight into Canada. *THAT* would be at your expense.
The only testing that the governments are paying for in Canada have to do with maintaining safe workplaces, or performing assessments at health test centres for people who think they might have come into contact with COV. But if you are merely curious, or you are travelling, then you have to go to a pharmacy and pay anywhere from $40 to $200 for a test and the documentation it comes with. If your workplace does testing, they are acquiring RAT kits from your local public health unit, at a very low cost -- or not cost depending on the public health unit and the type of workplace, and employees are not to be charged for tests. All presumptive positives on RATs must go for PCR testing, and are reported to the health unit, but something in the range of 60% of presumptive positives are negative on PCR testing. Negative RAT results are 100% accurate. Positive RAT results run only about 40% correct on the whole. (My partner does RAT testing with public health as a volunteer, and as a department lead at his university; also works as a volunteer in a pharmacy school vaccination clinic).
Where do you get that information? The link I posted -- and explained, which comes from the travel.gc.ca statement, does not indicate a *post arrival test* is required:My understanding is that fully vaccinated travelers into Canada will need a pre arrival test and a post arrival test. This is what i understand from the government website.
That's my understanding also.My understanding is that fully vaccinated travelers into Canada will need a pre arrival test and a post arrival test. This is what i understand from the government website.
To clarify, I agree with you.My understanding is that fully vaccinated travelers into Canada will need a pre arrival test and a post arrival test. This is what i understand from the government website.
You’re one of the few that do.To clarify, I agree with you.
Where do you get that information? The link I posted -- and explained, which comes from the travel.gc.ca statement, does not indicate a *post arrival test* is required:
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you must take a test within 72 hours of the scheduled departure time of your flight to Canada. Airlines will refuse boarding to travellers who are unable to provide a valid molecular test result.
All travellers must:
- If you have a connecting flight:
- the test must be conducted within 72 hours of the scheduled departure time of your last direct flight to Canada
- you may need to schedule the test in your transit city
- provide one of the accepted types of tests, not an antigen test
- keep proof of your test results for the 14-day period that begins on the day you enter Canada." (from the site linked in my post above)
You’re one of the few that do.
That's my understandingthe website seems to suggest that you need a pre-boarding test and an arrival test even if you fully vaccinated regardless of your nationality
Find out if your travel may be exempt
All eligible vaccinated travellers
Fully vaccinated travellers who are eligible to enter Canada are exempt from some requirements if they meet certain conditions.
Check if you qualify as fully vaccinated
Pre-entry test required
Arrival test required
Exempt from Day-8 test
Exempt from quarantine
Exempt from mandatory hotel stopover
As I understand it, the test is officially required, but some persons may be excluded from actually doing it, when test kits are being handed out to travellers on arrival. I don't really know where I heard this, but I think that it may be from a CBC report about the changes happening when travellers arrive in Canada. I paid little attention to it, as I have no control over it and am willing to take and report on the take-home arrival test, if required.That's my understanding
I just came back into Canada and the test was free.Also it's still not clear to me who covers the cost of the test once back in Canada.
Could you elaborate please? You were tested at an airport and received results at airport? Or were tested at airport and went home and got results in 72h?I just came back into Canada and the test was free.
That depends on where you get it. See this thread: COVID Covid Test at Madrid AirportThe test to return to Canada is a PCR test which does take 24-48 hours for results.
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