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If only the local incumbents showed the same pastoral approach to the celebration of the "Extraordinary Form" of Mass
I would not invite you to a meal and then refuse to feed you.
Beautiful.At the invitation to Communion the presiding priest said "My bishop says 'If this is a special occasion for you and you believe as we do then you are welcome to receive Communion.' "
I understand this to be a pastoral approach (an important part of being a bishop or priest) rather than a rules based way of doing things.
This seems to be the crux of the issue. So a question from the sidelines. Papa Francesco seems to have deeply pastoral values. What would he do, I wonder?If only the local incumbents showed the same pastoral approach to the celebration of the "Extraordinary Form" of Mass
Thank you Alwyn, for this gracious and beautifully inclusive reply. Of course, you're right. In this context it's easy to fall into the trap of feeling 'apart from.' That's actually the elephant in the sitting room that not many people have expressly articulated in this thread.No, Viranani, not to us. You and I and others walk together.
Question:
1. Has anyone struggled with whether it is acceptable or not?
2. I had read in this forum--somewhere--that Episcopalians were okay to take Communion.
Wow! Thank you all for your replies. You all deserve a "like" for answering, even if I might not agree with what you write.The thread has been reopened by request.
Hope it can stay open. Be thoughtful before posting.
Thanks.
Wow! Thank you all for your replies. You all deserve a "like" for answering, even if I might not agree with what you write.
. Any thoughts about how to behave in a home, for example? Some other sensitivities or cultural differences? Have you ever inadvertently upset a fellow pilgrim?
About the forum rule, I understand fully the need to avoid arguments. Information and personal experiences would be fine, I guess?
Your wish to set me at ease is very much appreciated. Here (Finland) we do touch the fruit. You don't want to buy fruit that is not as ripe as you wish it to be. But there are many other differences. We take off our shoes at home, Germans don't. We leave you to cut your own piece of cake. In Holland the lady of the house will do that. Courses on Intercultural Communication are full of examples of these very real differences. The Camino is a very interesting "melting pot", but I wonder how often the other (sensitive, thinking) person swallows and forgives. Religion is such a wonderful and important (to the religious person) thing, that especially in those matters it would be nice to understand before going to Portugal. If you can think of more examples, keep them coming please! And, yes, I look forward to the Camino without fear.When invited in a home : I guess just smile, use the doormat to clean your shoes, say something nice about the garden. No seriously just be your lovely self and it will all work out....
Did I inadvertently upset a fellow pilgrim? I guess I did ...I might have mended my blisters on my feet too publiclybut I never carried a radio/ device with me with the music full on ...
It will all work out. Like others said : you ask such sensible and well mannered questions and for me this means you are a good person . No worries.
One thing : in shops and supermarkets : Don't touch the fruit and veggies. No toca la fruta. The shopassistant will help you. That is the biggest cultural difference with my country.
I don't know. Probably.Have you ever inadvertently upset a fellow pilgrim?
Well. yes. And the number of Christian denominations serves as an example of how our faith can be lived in many different ways!I don't know. Probably.
The 'rule of thumb' I use when I'm in a culture that is not mine (which for me is much of the time) is to be like a child and watch how other people do things. Especially in churches or temples, but also in shops and other public places. It's saved me from embarrassment more than once, because (as you say @Jakke) cultural norms are soooooo variable!
thinkthere is a "rule" which would state that a person has to be baptised into the Catholic Church in order to be in communion with it and therefore receive communion. !
Everyone who is baptised is baptised into the Christian Faith.
If a Christian is unable to partake in worship within their own denomination (which happens for the members all the reformed churches when travelling in Northern Spain) then they are free to partake fully in the Catholic Mass, which obviously includes receiving holy communion.
Recently (just a few weeks back) the wife of Catholic who was not herself a Catholic asked Pope Francis if she could receive Communion when she accompanied her husband to Mass and he indicated very clearly that she was free to do so.
I hope this helps to clarify the situation for you Deborah.
Jesus prayed "That they all may be one" and we continue to pray it
actually, Pope Francis (gentle and compassionate) did not say she could, but refrained from telling her she couldn't. And not everyone who participates at Mass (where all are welcome) can receive Communion (including some--?many?--Catholics). If you believe/accept all the teachings of the Catholic Church, from the leadership of the Pope to the Transubstatiation, have been baptized into the Catholic faith, already had your first Communion, and are free from mortal sin (know what that is?), then OK. Otherwise please respect the beliefs of others. Maybe some Protestant churches are ok with non-members receiving Communion. This is not a Protestant service, nor a case of tit-for-tat. You are not being cheated out of anything. This is a very important Catholic sacrament, not a sello, sticker, or other SWAG, or a chance to express your non-Catholic spirituality.there is a "rule" which would state that a person has to be baptised into the Catholic Church in order to be in communion with it and therefore receive communion. !
Everyone who is baptised is baptised into the Christian Faith.
If a Christian is unable to partake in worship within their own denomination (which happens for the members all the reformed churches when travelling in Northern Spain) then they are free to partake fully in the Catholic Mass, which obviously includes receiving holy communion.
Recently (just a few weeks back) the wife of Catholic who was not herself a Catholic asked Pope Francis if she could receive Communion when she accompanied her husband to Mass and he indicated very clearly that she was free to do so.
I hope this helps to clarify the situation for you Deborah.
Jesus prayed "That they all may be one" and we continue to pray it
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