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- Time of past OR future Camino
- 2012: most of some, all of a few, a bit of others
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Thanks! I tried searching but it said nothing matched el camino real, and using the words separately gave thousands of pages about Camino Santiago, the real camino, etc....SO grateful for your help!
A few years back a lady that had previously done the Camino to Santiago walked the El Camino Real in California. I have been thinking about doing it myself. She prepared a guide and put it on line. The website is http://walkelcaminoreal.com/ .I know this is waaayyy off topic of the Camino de Santiago, but I'm living in California now and El Camino Real is literally in my backyard. For those that don't know, El Camino Real is the 800-mile road that connected/connects a chain of missions built by Spanish priests and their Native American converts (please no political commentary/flame wars) along the California coast. The Franciscan founder, Father Junipero Serra, was recently canonized by Pope Francis (again, I probably agree with some potential criticism, but let's not go there...a lot of our saints have a past we'd criticize today, and it's not the point of my post)--the local newspapers speculated on whether this might lead to the old mission road becoming a pilgrimage route (I doubt it). That said, i grew up in California and always wanted to walk the route, every time I'd see one of the bells on a shepherds hook that marks the route I'd wonder what it would be like. Fast forward a few decades of living all over the world, and I'm back home living in a small town on the Camino (as many small towns are, and now many big cities). I've found one online resource (though they walked north to south, and I'd prefer to walk south to north). since many places kept El Camino as the name of the main road, and most of the missions still exist in some state of repair/disrepair, a few hours with a map could lay out a route. The main drawback is the lack of inexpensive lodging in some parts as it passes through popular tourist areas, kind of like the Norte was (admittedly it will be more expensive than the norte).
Has anyone walked this? If so, how did you handle housing, and do you recall how much that ended up being (approximately)?
I lived less than a mile from El Camino in the San Francisco Bay Area for almost 30 years. Most of that stretch of El Camino is a busy (almost constant car/truck traffic during the day) asphalt road with minimal charm and no reasonable lodging. But south of San Jose, things change. When my kids were in grammar school, studying the California missions was part of the curriculum, and they visited a few.I know this is waaayyy off topic of the Camino de Santiago, but I'm living in California now and El Camino Real is literally in my backyard. For those that don't know, El Camino Real is the 800-mile road that connected/connects a chain of missions built by Spanish priests and their Native American converts (please no political commentary/flame wars) along the California coast. The Franciscan founder, Father Junipero Serra, was recently canonized by Pope Francis (again, I probably agree with some potential criticism, but let's not go there...a lot of our saints have a past we'd criticize today, and it's not the point of my post)--the local newspapers speculated on whether this might lead to the old mission road becoming a pilgrimage route (I doubt it). That said, i grew up in California and always wanted to walk the route, every time I'd see one of the bells on a shepherds hook that marks the route I'd wonder what it would be like. Fast forward a few decades of living all over the world, and I'm back home living in a small town on the Camino (as many small towns are, and now many big cities). I've found one online resource (though they walked north to south, and I'd prefer to walk south to north). since many places kept El Camino as the name of the main road, and most of the missions still exist in some state of repair/disrepair, a few hours with a map could lay out a route. The main drawback is the lack of inexpensive lodging in some parts as it passes through popular tourist areas, kind of like the Norte was (admittedly it will be more expensive than the norte).
Has anyone walked this? If so, how did you handle housing, and do you recall how much that ended up being (approximately)?
yes, i still remember the shoebox diorama I made of Santa InezI lived less than a mile from El Camino in the San Francisco Bay Area for almost 30 years. Most of that stretch of El Camino is a busy (almost constant car/truck traffic during the day) asphalt road with minimal charm and no reasonable lodging. But south of San Jose, things change. When my kids were in grammar school, studying the California missions was part of the curriculum, and they visited a few.
Obviously sounds like Spain and even San Clemente is a nice town on Camino de Levante in SpainFunny, just saw Huell Howser California Gold episode on this at Rincon Point, where I've surfed and walked around the Point on apparently the Camino Real path.
Maybe in Central Coast, but no way in So.Cal ... a 4 mile walk through San Clemente on busy streets next to 8 lane freeway is not happening - even if it is named Camino Real.
I've heard of a "low tide" walk down the Coast, which is often the route taken by earlist settlers.
Great campsites at El Capitan & Refugio (sounds like Spain), Morro Bay, got to be more ....
If only you could find locals willing to let you sleep on their couch for the night.
https://www.couchsurfing.com/
I haven't done this nor do I know anyone who has.
I'm reminded of a book I read in Jr. high school: "Around the World on $80" published in 1952 or 1953. The author even got someone to put up the $80. Read some of the snippets that Google Books has.edit: no idea how one person did it for $400 for food and lodging combined, unless he had a LOT of friends and relatives strung out along the coast.
I know this is waaayyy off topic of the Camino de Santiago
edit: no idea how one person did it for $400 for food and lodging combined, unless he had a LOT of friends and relatives strung out along the coast.
I'm reminded of a book I read in Jr. high school: "Around the World on $80" published in 1952 or 1953.
I was hoping someone would do thisIn 1950 the minimum wage in the US was $0.75 and so to get $80 one had to work 106.7 hours. Today the minimum wage is $7.25 and in 106.7 hours one would earn $773.58.
So today one might be able to write a book "Half-way Around the World on the Equivalent of $80 in 1950 Money" and fill it up with the adventures of getting through airport security.
Actually I was just going to edit the post to put in something that slipped my mind earlier. I just found a webpage that quoted from a 1955 ad for TWA. It gave a fare of $76 for a San Francisco to Chicago flight. That is about 1,860 miles or only about 7.5% of the circumference of the earth. So we are getting about 7 times the value today.Thank you for this entire post. It has made my day, week, and month. Geeky trivia fans the world over would elect you king.
er...you don't mind if I use the title, do you
now can you adjust this with purchasing power parity?In 1950 the minimum wage in the US was $0.75 and so to get $80 one had to work 106.7 hours. Today the minimum wage is $7.25 and in 106.7 hours one would earn $773.58.
Yes, if she can get me to fix the sink faucets.Peg is a lucky woman
No. Economics was the biggest waste of my education.now can you adjust this with purchasing power parity?
40 years ago when I finished my active duty military service I used my savings to go vagabonding for a year. I got geeky earlier this month and plugged in what I spent on the trip into an online app that figured out how much money I would have if I put the money into a Standard and Poors fund. Wow! How much more travel I could do today.pretty soon I will be travelling around the world first class
continuing what I'm sure is pretty much just talking to myself, I have info on the nominal fee for walk-up hikers/bikers...not available at all of the parks in Briery's guide, but it's 5-10$ (at last, albergue rates!), more often 10, and they go quickly according to the places who have replied so far. I also found this site, run by the nice lady who makes the credentials http://walkelcaminoreal.com/links.php
it has a complete breakdown of prices in all state parks, and I may see if I want to alter his stopping points a bit to walk more along the coast...if i have to veer off the real path anyway (since most of it is highway 101) i may head off west rather than east...but that would only be cost effective if I'm trying to camp AND i appear to be getting the low priced walk in rates.
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