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I love maps. This looks super cool. My son and I plan on doing the camino next year from le puy in france. Then we want to get a tattoo of the route map. Thanks for the cool suggestion.I have come across this site which gives you immediate access to all the large scale (1:50000) geological survey maps of Spain, the standard maps published by national geological surveys all over the world. There are over 1100 separate sheets!
MapasIGME - Portal de cartografía del IGME: MAGNA 50 - Mapa Geológico de España a escala 1:50.000 (2ª Serie)
El Mapa Geológico Nacional (MAGNA), realizado entre 1972 y 2003 por el Instituto Geológico y Minero de España se distribuye en hojas 1:50.000 (1:25.000 en los casos particulares de Canarias, Ibiza-Formentera, Menorca, Ceuta y Melilla). En el Mapa Geológico se representa la naturaleza de los...info.igme.es
When you open the portal, scrolling down one screen gives you an interactive key map, and scrolling further gives you a complete list.
When you select a map, several versions are offered. I recommend the one called “Maps editado escaniado” - scanned.
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The map comes up in great detail, and is much bigger than your screen, so you navigate around. My mouse, on Mac, offers me a “+”cursor, which is not useful because it seems to zoom in to a ridiculous extent, and the result is not helpful.
Here's an example I just looked at, inspired by VN's photos of tha Vasco on another thread.
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Navigating to the right hand side reveals a regional key map, with towns and cities marked, so you can more easily see where you are. At the bottom are the very revealing geological sections.
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Be warned. These are addictive!
Oooooooooooo. "Chicken skin," as we say where I grew up.Just before Roncesvalles you step across a 400my time-slip.
It must be crispy chicken skinPaul, I'm sitting here with my jaw hanging open.
Wow, thank you.
Bookmarked.
This is the ultimate rabbit hole. More to the point it means we can carry these as we go, which adds another dimension to appreciation of where we are day by day. At a walking pace there is time to appreciate the complexity.
Oooooooooooo. "Chicken skin," as we say where I grew up.
I'm sure most caminos are full of such POIs, and mostly we have no idea.
Ha! Not any more.
Not sure of the first rocky outcrop you mentioned but think the homes carved into cliffs were in Tosantos.On the Francés, there was one rock formation that particularly caught my interest - an outcropping of rock that first appeared in the far distance at around one o’clock. It seemed to remain there for several days but very slowly it drew nearer until we eventually passed it close by at three o’clock, as I recall. Can anyone tell me where that would be?
And, of course, there were those rocky cliffs - again on the Francés - into which were carved those fascinating homes. A quick look on Google is not helping me with their location, but I think they were in the vicinity of Atapuerca.
Can you give me a clue as to the kind of thing I'm looking for?@Peregrinopaul, I‘d be interested to hear what you can see around the area of Triacastela in comparison to Galicia in general. This aspect of geology was mentioned in a recent online course about the Camino de Santiago in which I participated.
Limestone around Triacastela versus granite in most of Galicia. Is that correct?Can you give me a clue as to the kind of thing I'm looking for?
"And, of course, there were those rocky cliffs - again on the Francés - into which were carved those fascinating homes. A quick look on Google is not helping me with their location, but I think they were in the vicinity of Atapuerca"On the Francés, there was one rock formation that particularly caught my interest - an outcropping of rock that first appeared in the far distance at around one o’clock. It seemed to remain there for several days but very slowly it drew nearer until we eventually passed it close by at three o’clock, as I recall. Can anyone tell me where that would be?
And, of course, there were those rocky cliffs - again on the Francés - into which were carved those fascinating homes. A quick look on Google is not helping me with their location, but I think they were in the vicinity of Atapuerca.
Paul, you need to put this warning in bold font at the top of your post.Be warned. These are addictive!
The simple answer is yes and no!Limestone around Triacastela versus granite in most of Galicia. Is that correct?
So please, Paul...another geographically related query but a completely different tangent. (From someone who just likes rocks but only has a sketchy autodidact's knowledge of them (except for volcanology and a little paleontology, which I've actually studied).. These are the rocks you walk over from Ponferrada to more or less Sarria.
I hadn’t looked at this area, nor have I visited it, much to my regret. It’s another of those bucket-list locations that seem to be disappearing into the unforeseeable future. (I suppose at least Zumaia and Las Medulas could be achieved in one go, age and covid willing)....How did gold-bearing rocks end up in there? Las Medulas, for example.
Haha, no actually. I has a look at that map and knew it was going to be super comolicated - and that I was way out of my depth.You might assume you’ve asked a straight-forward question
I like the analogy. I'm still browsing, by the way.Plate tectonics fascinates me, because it's a slow-motion version of the same kind of thing you see on the skin of an active lava lake — with plates of hardened crust separating and colliding and spinning and getting subducted under each other in an endless dance.
That’s impressive!Gracias.
Me too. LOL. I'm rationing myself to lookng at one map every 2 days.
Not really. It takes 2 days to begin to get a handle on what the map says.That’s impressive
My reaction to this message was going to be a huge "thank you" until I discovered that the "en" doesn't extend to the map keys - obviously in retrospect since they are scans.The URL ends in "?language=es". If you change that to "=en" you'll get the site in English. I don't see a language choice dropdown.
Rabbit hole indeed!
This is the coolest thing in a while. And it goes to show how as they age, formations that have amazing stories can be hiding in plain sight as something that isn'tand here’s the relevant portion.
particularly interesting
Yes, but please continue.Oh dear. Am I rambling?
Hi VN. There’s going to be a break in transmission now as I drove down here to Perth yesterday for a surgery appointment. Nothing drastic, but hospital tomorrow. I’ll have a look at this when I get home and to my computer. An iPhone is not conducive!And I have a stupid question,
It indicates the presence of fossils.This is the coolest thing in a while. And it goes to show how as they age, formations that have amazing stories can be hiding in plain sight as something that isn't
Yes, but please continue.
If I can peel you away from the ancient rocks of Plata, here's an area that's South of the Viejo, north of the Via de Bayona, a reasonably easy detour from the former. These salt diatremes sit in a complex little nest of formations. Not so old but still. . .
And I have a stupid question, but you say you have the key sussed. What's the spiral symbol just west of the diatreme at Salinas de Bureba, right of center in the screenshot?
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Thank you, @ChristianSdeM .indicates the presence of fossils.
(I'm back...none the worse for wear, but poorer.)These salt diatremes sit in a complex little nest of formations. Not so old but still. . .
Paul. Please do not apologize. Thank you for the correction! (My only formal training in geology has been patchy - paleontology as my career demanded, and volcanology out of that and fascination both.I hope you won't mind me being picky, but the evaporite intrusions punching through to the surface at Salinillas are diapirs, not diatremes.
El esplendor de la villa de Poza de la Sal se debe a sus salinas, ya explotadas desde antes de la época romana y cuyo valor estratégico justificaba la fortificación de la villa para su defensa en la Edad Media. Estas salinas junto con las de Añana en Álava, eran las principales del norte de la península ibérica.
La sal era, hasta hace pocas décadas, un material precioso, usado como conservante alimentario, pero, hasta la explotación minera de los yacimientos subterráneos, su producción estaba limitada a las salinas costeras y de manantiales de interior, por lo que su posesión era muy codiciada. A tal punto llegaba su importancia que se utilizaba como forma de pago ya desde época romana, siendo este el origen del término salario.
Beautiful. Pure salt!The halite is so pure it looks like ice!
You and me both!Beautiful. Pure salt!
Edit: I was completely unaware of the big picture. This is a much bigger rabbit hole than I imagined!.
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