ttbtinkerbell
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- May-June 2015
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Thanks. This is my first Camino, and actually the first time in Europe, so I have no idea how the weather works out there. I have read countless hours of topics on this forum and actually have a really good gear list. This is the one item I just can't decide on. Haha.Welcome to the forum. I would think at that time of year the light one would do fine.
Happy Planning and Buen Camino.
Don't take either one! Take a "puff" jacket, with the new artificial insulation that continues to provide insulation even when wet (unlike down). Many different companies make them, some with wind and water resistant properties. They almost all weigh less than almost all fleece jackets, and pack down smaller. Probably the most famous and most expensive is the Patagonia Nano puff; I was very happy with my REI version which cost half as much.
Do you find that the puff jackets are strong enough for the wear and tear of the camino. I haven't ever owned anything like it, but I have heard that they were really fragile articles.
Whariwharangi mentioned in his well written reply:
As the saying goes ... if your feet are cold put on a hat. You lose most of your heat from your head so bring a tuque.
It's a common misconception that you lose most of your heat through the head. Stands to reason...heat rises, your chrome dome is the top of your head, therefore..,
Actually, most body heat is lost in the arm pits and the groin. Try this experiment: put your hands in ice water until the cold is uncomfortable, then place your hands on top of your head.
Repeat, though this time put the newly frozen hands under your armpits, or if really adventurous into your crotch. Now, where do your hands return to a comfortable place, hands on your head/crotch or head?
During cold water rescue training we had many service men, EMTs, survivalists, etc in the course. Most believed the head very important to survival. Ten minutes in 48 degree water made them believers and their hands quickly slipped downward.
The most important thing you can do to survive is to protect your core area..from your neck down to your waist. Layering is very important in this area. Cotton KILLs... Once cotton gets wet, your body heat can't dry it. Even in 80 degrees, simple evaporation, encouraged by wind stream, can cause hypothermia in 10-20 minutes, depending on your body mass.
Way to much info here.
Buen "baby it's cold outside" Camino,
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Thanks for all the good advice. Arn, I already know about my warm spots. I freeze A LOT. It will be summer and I am sitting in an air-conditioned room, and my hands will be tucked between my legs near crotch or under my arms. That is a default position for me since my extremities are often cold. I do have gloves for the trip so I hope this isn't going to be a big issue.
T2andreo, did you have a rain jacket when you fleece was getting wet? I do have a rain jacket which I feel should be fine in the summer. I know there are poncho's but I just do not like them for some reason. I also like the fact that I can layer my Marmot rain jacket over my fleece or puff jacket for added warmth. Same goes for my rain pants.
I am still trying to decide on a fleece or puff. It seems to me that one great option is to buy two lightweight fleeces, and just layer. Weight is a little bit of an issue so I feel that maybe a puff jacket might be better, but much much more expensive.
I am possibly going to buy either the lightweight or midweight fleece and wear it all winter to get a good feel of how it will work. The weather here regularly gets down to the low 40's in winter. I would really love to buy a puff jacket, but I will just have to keep an eye out, and try to catch a good sale.
You won't need two pieces of cooler weather gear for a summertime Camino. Ditch the puff thing and keep your pack light.Alright, so I found a Patagonia Nano puff online on Ebay. It was listed as $75 dollars, (retail $170). I put a bid on it thinking that I would be outbid eventually. I got off work today and found out my bid was the highest and I won it. Now that I won it, I am starting to think I could just get away with a fleece. Maybe both will do me good, a lightweight fleece and a Nano Puff. Hm. I worry about the weight as I am trying to keep my bag at 10lbs. I will have to sleep on this one. Thanks again everyone for your help.
ttbtinkerbell, the puff makes a great pillowI will have to sleep on this one.
I have purchased the Nano puff and will be using at home over the winter to see how well it holds up with some arm warmers. I like that it is lighter than the lightweight fleece. But I will try both nano and fleece to figure out what will work for mettbtinkerbell, the puff makes a great pillow
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