Dannyhiker
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- Chemin de St. Jame 2013
Camino del Norte 2017
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I'm planning my third Camino. I've seen posts on gear, albergues, spiritual quests, almost all the possible Camino routes....
But I've never seen anyone talk about the cultural and political status of Spain.
This is not a test - honest.
But are pilgrims interested (or know) who the Prime minister is (Pedro Sanchez), the king (Felipe VI) - yep, they still have a king.
I'm interested if pilgrims prepare by learning something about modern Spain.
Thanks
Danny
I do not believe most pilgrims are interested in the constitution or politics of modern Spain. A few will be and they will also be interested in the history of the country.
Allow me to disagree. I have travelled in many countries around the globe and I would not like to go anywhere without knowing, apart from cultural aspects, important political realities, which, among other matters, could be crucial to not accidentally showing disrespect. But that is one thing –another thing is the sensible rule to not discuss it on this forum.
interesting,why are older Spaniards different physically ?
Thanks for the book tip Marty.I can tell you all you want to know of such things.
Grew up in Seville and Ferrol in the late 40’s .... early 50’s. Live in Seville
Witnessed the change of Spain from Franco’s days to present.
Politics are not a good topic to discuss/debate on the open forum.
Few talk about how it was “then.”
Suggest you read book Ghosts Of Spain.
Send me a message and I can tell you some things for you to think about Spain when walking your Camino.
Friends:
I'm planning my third Camino. I've seen posts on gear, albergues, spiritual quests, almost all the possible Camino routes....
But I've never seen anyone talk about the cultural and political status of Spain.
This is not a test - honest.
But are pilgrims interested (or know) who the Prime minister is (Pedro Sanchez), the king (Felipe VI) - yep, they still have a king.
I'm interested if pilgrims prepare by learning something about modern Spain.
Thanks
Danny
Thanks. That's the sort of things that could be discussed I think.
True about not dining alone!!
Therefore my preference for pintxos bars where you feel more at ease when alone.
I'm a newbie. What's a "pintxos bar"?
Spain has an absolutely incredible history. Just think, every major European (& other) culture came to a stop here (the end of the earth) and left some of itself behind: Cro-Magnon, Neanderthals, Homo Erectus, Homo sapien, Carthaginians, Phonecians, Celts, Romans, Visigoths...and the Moors. Then came a succession of kings, queens, republicans, nationals....it's an amazing amalgam of culture when you think of it.
Johan Von Goethe thought the Camino created "European Culture" because so many traversed the continent that became the major commercial/cultural link.
Absolutely fascinating to think of over 800,000 years of development.
Where else can you enjoy the fruits of such an amazing history?
Hear hear...Paying attention and trying to learn about current social or political issues and events isn't the same to me as "discussing politics", i.e. expressing or defending one's opinion and relating it mainly to the situation in one's own country but this is often what seems to happen - people don't seem to be able to make this distinction.
There is a recent thread about the recent events in this realm here.For Danny, this book: The New Spaniards, by John Hooper (second edition). I recommend reading this in conjunction with The Ghosts of Spain, mentioned by Marty Seville (above). My own history and experience in Spain (as reported elsewhere in the Ivar Forum) began in 1970 at a time when Franco was firmly in control of the country. In the ensuing almost 50 years of frequent travel to this amazing country I have witnessed many changes many of which are revealed in The New Spaniards.
Thank you. Now this was a good, practical suggestion.Just a suggestion: the newspaper El Pais is available online in an English version.
Thanks... I was more interested in what pilgrims were doing now. I can read a newspaper to get the gist of the current political situation.I can tell you all you want to know of such things.
Grew up in Seville and Ferrol in the late 40’s .... early 50’s. Live in Seville
Witnessed the change of Spain from Franco’s days to present.
Politics are not a good topic to discuss/debate on the open forum.
Few talk about how it was “then.”
Suggest you read book Ghosts Of Spain.
Send me a message and I can tell you some things for you to think about Spain when walking your Camino.
Thank you will get the bookI can tell you all you want to know of such things.
Grew up in Seville and Ferrol in the late 40’s .... early 50’s. Live in Seville
Witnessed the change of Spain from Franco’s days to present.
Politics are not a good topic to discuss/debate on the open forum.
Few talk about how it was “then.”
Suggest you read book Ghosts Of Spain.
Send me a message and I can tell you some things for you to think about Spain when walking your Camino.
I don't. I am completely focused on the walk. I love the escape from it all.Friends:
I'm planning my third Camino. I've seen posts on gear, albergues, spiritual quests, almost all the possible Camino routes....
But I've never seen anyone talk about the cultural and political status of Spain.
This is not a test - honest.
But are pilgrims interested (or know) who the Prime minister is (Pedro Sanchez), the king (Felipe VI) - yep, they still have a king.
I'm interested if pilgrims prepare by learning something about modern Spain.
Thanks
Danny
Spain has an absolutely incredible history. Just think, every major European (& other) culture came to a stop here (the end of the earth) and left some of itself behind: Cro-Magnon, Neanderthals, Homo Erectus, Homo sapien, Carthaginians, Phonecians, Celts, Romans, Visigoths...and the Moors. Then came a succession of kings, queens, republicans, nationals....it's an amazing amalgam of culture when you think of it.
Johan Von Goethe thought the Camino created "European Culture" because so many traversed the continent that became the major commercial/cultural link.
Absolutely fascinating to think of over 800,000 years of development.
Where else can you enjoy the fruits of such an amazing history?
Paying attention and trying to learn about current social or political issues and events isn't the same to me as "discussing politics", i.e. expressing or defending one's opinion and relating it mainly to the situation in one's own country but this is often what seems to happen - people don't seem to be able to make this distinction.
Spain has an absolutely incredible history. Just think, every major European (& other) culture came to a stop here (the end of the earth) and left some of itself behind: Cro-Magnon, Neanderthals, Homo Erectus, Homo sapien, Carthaginians, Phonecians, Celts, Romans, Visigoths...and the Moors. Then came a succession of kings, queens, republicans, nationals....it's an amazing amalgam of culture when you think of it.
Johan Von Goethe thought the Camino created "European Culture" because so many traversed the continent that became the major commercial/cultural link.
Absolutely fascinating to think of over 800,000 years of development.
Where else can you enjoy the fruits of such an amazing history?
The Visigoths … and the always forgotten Suabians in Galicia (a Kingdom that lasted 180 years with capital in Braga)
I sent my salliva for a DNA analysis and to my surprise the result was Germanic origin in the mother line (mitocondrial).
My mother is from a village that is located 10 kms from Guitiriz, near C. Norte, that was founded by the Suabians in VI century for its medicin Waters.
If that is true ( I mean my Germanic matrilineal origin) I also know that my ancestors have been living in that area at leats since VI century.
Free Kindle!Council in Braga where was declared heresy the Priscilian dogma.
Of course Danny, though I can only speak for myself. I am just back from my 2nd Came no and planning my 3rd, I had a wonderful Spaniard sh teacher for a year before I left and she delved onto Spanish culture and the current political climate. I am very thankful for that. Having just walked the Via de la Plata I have read a brief history and f the Roman Empire and have a hunger for moreFriends:
I'm planning my third Camino. I've seen posts on gear, albergues, spiritual quests, almost all the possible Camino routes....
But I've never seen anyone talk about the cultural and political status of Spain.
This is not a test - honest.
But are pilgrims interested (or know) who the Prime minister is (Pedro Sanchez), the king (Felipe VI) - yep, they still have a king.
I'm interested if pilgrims prepare by learning something about modern Spain.
Thanks
Danny
and this will end you up in jail doing it here in Qatar.
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