- Time of past OR future Camino
- Too many and too often!
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There was an earlier thread about him but I can't remember the title. He was made to stay overnight in a bullring, together with his herd, and ordered to provide the necessary veterinary documentation but apparently he just left and was gone in the morning. This was in one of the towns in the earlier sections of the Camino Francés. An article at the time (September last year) says: Su vida discurre a cielo abierto, su casa es el camino y su trabajo una guitarra, que toca por los pueblos a cambio de la voluntad. Desea ser pastor y huye de la burocracia, trámites, tecnología ...The numbers seem to have changed a bit. When I met him he had three donkeys and six goats. Doesn't answer any of the 'why' questions though.
You can never have too many donkeys.....So many "whys" to be asked here. Sincerely hoping the moped rider recovers from their injuries but five donkeys?
I didn't see any hateful comments about that pilgrim and his animals. What hate are you referring to?May both the person on the moped and the goat be ok!
They arrested the pilgrim because of unreliability of appearance,' I assume meaning that they assumed he would not appear in court.
My only question is why people hate it when others choose to live in unconventional ways. This guy is harming no-one, except the person on a moped who hit one of his goats - and we don't really know whose fault the collision was, never mind what the police say.
This was actually the reason why he appeared in the Spanish news in September last year. There had been concerns due to the apparent lack of documentation and compliance with veterinary regulations, especially concerns about the bluetongue disease and brucellosis, both of them a potential thread for local livestock and local farming.There may even be existing laws concerning traveling with livestock like that, restrictions etc. That could actually be considered a small herd of livestock.
We're not supposed to discuss politics on the Forum!You can never have too many donkeys.....
You're right.I didn't see any hateful comments
one has a responsibility for the animals and the public who could come into contact with the animals when one partakes in a journey like that. The safety and welfare. That includes ensuring all roadways are crossed safely, or when utilizing a road for walking that the animals do not wander into traffic (a difficult task at times I am sure).
Absolutely.There had been concerns due to the apparent lack of documentation and compliance with veterinary regulations, especially concerns about the bluetongue disease and brucellosis, both of them
I saw this guy by Puente Quintos on the VdlP/Sanabrés in March. I thought he was a local goatherd but the description fits. Seemed like an 'interesting' character. He was sitting by the side of the road smoking a homemade pipe.Several news websites have reported the arrest of a French peregrino in Asturias after one of his goats was involved in an accident which left a motorcyclist with serious injuries. The man has been travelling with donkeys, goats and a dog for many months. I met the man and his animals on the Via de la Plata earlier this year.
Un peregrino francés con cinco burros, tres cabras y un perro provoca un accidente de tráfico en Asturias
Una cabra que invadió la calzada causó la caída de un hombre que circulaba en ciclomotor en Ribadesella | El acusado ha sido arrestado como supuesto autor de un delito de lesioneswww.elperiodicodearagon.com
People hiking with donkeys, whether on a Camino trail to Santiago in Spain or in the Massif Central in France or in the High Atlas in Morocco or in any other popular destination are a dozen a dime these days. It's the herd of goats that sets this guy apart. And it's one of his goats that has now caused a local motorist to have a severe accident on the main road out of the town of Ribadesella.No surprise to me.
When I saw him, as I remember, he had two or three donkeys, about eight goats and a dogWell, as has been pointed out we don't know many details. I have my doubts about five donkeys. It seems to me that the number of donkeys may have stayed the same and the number of goats may have decreased compared to those of nine months ago. While donkeys or horses make sense for slow or 'traditional' travel from France to Santiago or elsewhere in Spain and back because they are 'working' animals, goats (or dogs, cats and I don't know what else, parrots perhaps) are pets or 'family' as this Frenchman puts it.
Whatever, from time to time at least, you obviously either do need to or choose to proceed on roads that are shared by motorised traffic. The news articles are based on a police press release with this info about the location: on the AS-379, km. 1,500, a la altura del campo de fútbol de Oreyana-Ribadesella. The AS-379 is not some country road or transhumance trail for the seasonal movement of livestock, it is a major road and looks like shown below (football field on the left). I have never travelled with a group of nearly a dozen four-legged animals. My uninformed guess it that the donkeys, linked to each other by ropes, will move slowly in a single file. The goats won't.
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Maybe for milk!!The numbers seem to have changed a bit. When I met him he had three donkeys and six goats. Doesn't answer any of the 'why' questions though.
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Both. He can be who he is, however he is.The guy has a right to all his animals. But not at the cost of the safety of others. We each have a right to be who we are. My right meets a barrier if it hurts you. Those who have a wider and more compassionate vision, help me here.
Goats … are used sometimes for backpacking in the US.
Llamas as well. A friend of mine did a back country mountains trip in one of the western states and he said the outfitter used llamas for carrying gear. He said the trip was great and the llamas easy to work with.Yes, there were some people who use them as pack animals.
Want to Lighten Your Load? Hike With a Goat.
For a growing number of hikers, goats are, well, the G.O.A.T. But not everyone is happy about it.www.backpacker.com
Attitudes will change if it turns out he's been eating the goats.and six goats.
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