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{Rachael, the Mama of the family}
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Tossing up whether to get a Brierley's guide for this route (going to borrow one from the library to see what it's like) or whether to just stick with the CSJ one combined with gronze elevations and our list of accommodations. Any preferences amongst those who have walked this route?
Last year I took guides on my phone for Baztan, Salvador and Primitivo and found them a bit tricky to use on the small screen and ended up just winging it each day! This time we intend to take our time and spend lots of time sitting at cafes and so we'd have time to read Mr Brierley if his guide is anything like the Frances one.
Brierley has a thin and light booklet of the caminho Portuges with only maps and information about places to sleep with phonenumbersTossing up whether to get a Brierley's guide for this route (going to borrow one from the library to see what it's like) or whether to just stick with the CSJ one combined with gronze elevations and our list of accommodations. Any preferences amongst those who have walked this route?
Last year I took guides on my phone for Baztan, Salvador and Primitivo and found them a bit tricky to use on the small screen and ended up just winging it each day! This time we intend to take our time and spend lots of time sitting at cafes and so we'd have time to read Mr Brierley if his guide is anything like the Frances one.
We usually do the same, but I did find last year that I was less happy on the routes for which I had no maps (or only the Gronze schematic ones).we are simply researching on the Internet. Up to now, we have never bought a guide, but made up.our own through the information gleaned from the various sites, this time for the Portugues. Initially, we considered walking the Coastal route, but I think that it's going to be the central route, which seems to be more varied.
We usually do the same, but I did find last year that I was less happy on the routes for which I had no maps (or only the Gronze schematic ones).
Now you can't go ditching the coastal route - you're the reason (and Laurie who mentioned it and Albertinho who raves about it) that I started looking into it!!!
Tentative ideas (as of today) are that we might walk to Matosinhos on the 9th (and stay in a prebooked guest house - Praia-Mar, they avhe 3 double rooms left at 30 euros), then to Vila do Conde with another pre-booked accom (maybe Hospedaria Venceslau, same price - but need to look a bit more). The next day would be a question mark....walking to Sao Pedro de Rates would not be far (14.2km), but it's another 15.9 to get to Barcelos which might be a bit far if we're still jet-lagged. Besides, I think we could easily spend a morning looking round VdC.
Or we could continue up the coast as Johnnie Walker did - need to check out accommodation options. Have you had a look?
On the other hand, Mosteiro Leca do Balio is an attractive detour on the central route....and the accommodations are cheaper!
If it is your first caminho Português, I should walk the Matosinhos-to Vila do Conde detour out of Porto and then walk the central route to Barcelos-Ponte de Lima.
We make a mix of the central and coastal Portuguese caminho this time.
Walk from Porto(Airport) to casa da Fernanda. From there take the train to Viana do Castelo at the coast and walk all the way to Vigo and Redondela where we hit the central route again.
If you have time, follow our travelblog,starting from April 25th or 26th depending on availability of wifi. It will be in english and dutch.
http://caminho-portuges-da-costa.reismee.nl
Bom caminho
Great. You can sign up aswell the blog by giving in your emailaddress right under.I've added your blog to my feedly account so will follow you at least until we set foot in Portugal ourselves!
I've done about 2,000km of caminos in France and Spain, but this is the first Portuguese one. IS there a reason you would NOT do Vila do Conde - Esposende - Caminha - Valenca????
So far, we will arrive in Santiago on 4th June from Italy, where we will be staying for a week, after arriving from Costa Rica. So by then , no jet lag! Stay 2 nights in Santiago, where we have already booked, trying a new place this time, bus to Oporto, probably stopping off in Braga for one day/night and then toOporto. That brings us to 8th June. We are still searching the various routes on Internet, with the help of Google Earth, mapping out the various possibilities. However, we think to walk along the coast at least to Matosinhos. Then probably move inland to the Central route. However we are still at the planning stage. Our flight back to C.R. is on 24th June. We have time, so are open to suggestions. in any case, Rachel, we have to work out a way to at least meet up one evening, if nothing else. The problem with the Coastal route, as far as I see. Is that it's completely without shade! The Central route looks a bit more varied.
One correction..the coastal starts at Matosinhos and the described detour-first coatal day- goes as far as Vila do Conde where you can head inland to Rates.So far, we will arrive in Santiago on 4th June from Italy, where we will be staying for a week, after arriving from Costa Rica. So by then , no jet lag! Stay 2 nights in Santiago, where we have already booked, trying a new place this time, bus to Oporto, probably stopping off in Braga for one day/night and then toOporto. That brings us to 8th June. We are still searching the various routes on Internet, with the help of Google Earth, mapping out the various possibilities. However, we think to walk along the coast at least to Matosinhos. Then probably move inland to the Central route. However we are still at the planning stage. Our flight back to C.R. is on 24th June. We have time, so are open to suggestions. in any case, Rachel, we have to work out a way to at least meet up one evening, if nothing else. The problem with the Coastal route, as far as I see. Is that it's completely without shade! The Central route looks a bit more varied.
One correction..the coastal starts at Matosinhos and the described detour-first coatal day- goes as far as Vila do Conde where you can head inland to Rates.
If you have the time ,visit Braga. This church ,Bom Jesus do Monte is beautiful and the town is worthwhile visiting too
Bom caminho
Albertinho,
I also like Braga, although it is the most confusing city I have ever tried to drive out of in Portugal! But that shouldn't be a problem for pilgrims.
I agree about Bom Jesus, but I'm wondering if you know if there is a way to get there from Braga via public transportation?
Albertinho,
I also like Braga, although it is the most confusing city I have ever tried to drive out of in Portugal! But that shouldn't be a problem for pilgrims.
I agree about Bom Jesus, but I'm wondering if you know if there is a way to get there from Braga via public transportation?
Bom caminho, Laurie
I drove there with my own car last year. A bit confusing indeed and hard to find a parkingplace but at the end it was a five minutes walk to the center.
We travelled to the Bom Jesus do Monte by public transport.
If you stay in the center of the city, avenida da Liberdade nº 1 you'll find the Braga Tourist center. From there it is about 200 meters walk to the busstop to Bom Jesus. Ask at the tourist information for a detailed plan of the city and they point you out where the busstop is. We will be there within 2 weeks from now again
Bom caminho
There are so many different routes from Porto to Redondela, that one tries to see most of the various attractions between coast and inland. It seems pretty easy to bus or train between coast and inland, so that as Annakappa often says "we'll play it by ear"It looks like there will quite a few of us on the Portuguese in the next months. I am impressed by the detail you all are going to in planning your route.[...]
I agree with you. The Porto -Matosinhos - Vila do Conde to Rates is the best option.Albertinho, we will be limiting ourselves and only walk to Santiago!
Annakappa and I still have to agree on our route. Personally I fancy the Metro from Porto to Matosinhos and walk the coast until Vila do Conde. If Annakappa insists walking along the river and then the coast, we'll stay in Labruge. Correct me if that's not about 24 kms. Next day Vila do Conde and then on to Rates. I haven't yet figured out the distances between these places. Thereafter through Pedra Furada and Barcelinhos to Barcelos. That should be about 17 km if my guessing is worth something? Then from Barcelos the approx. 20 kms to Lugar do Corgo (Casa Fernanda, so highly praised!!!). Ponte deLima +/- 13 km (?) Rubiaes, etc. with plenty of albergues until Valenza do Minho in reasonable distances. Once in Galicia we're pretty well at home and find our way until Santiago. We want to arrive here on Sunday 21 June.
Ultrei até Suseia
Saudaçöes Peregrines.
Planning our camino now, and we'll probably arrive in Santiago on 20th of June. We plan to walk quickly, as we do not have a lot of time. Here is a plan of out 8-day tripWe want to arrive here on Sunday 21 June.
Sucses ! Did you walk the caminho Português before ?Planning our camino now, and we'll probably arrive in Santiago on 20th of June. We plan to walk quickly, as we do not have a lot of time. Here is a plan of out 8-day triphttps://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zrDuskqpu_9M.kBDcpWsAQ_rM
Planning our camino now, and we'll probably arrive in Santiago on 20th of June. We plan to walk quickly, as we do not have a lot of time. Here is a plan of out 8-day triphttps://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zrDuskqpu_9M.kBDcpWsAQ_rM
Freemsk1: You won't be able to see us either, at the pace (distances) you intend to be going. As we say in Dutch: "hardlopers zijn doodlopers"[on Freemsk1 program]: When you pass a Kiwi couple sitting in a bar, DO NOT invite us to join you.....30-35km a day is [...]
Freemsk1: You won't be able to see us either, at the pace (distances) you intend to be going. As we say in Dutch: "hardlopers zijn doodlopers". We'll join the Kiwi's anytime for a cool beer!
Using Brierly from Porto to Santiago but using tha Matosinhos variant then central to Santiago then switching to Eroski for the Santiago Finisterre Muxia Santiago loop. I have a week open at the end so the internal battle is on...head to Lisbon for r+r or do the Ingles. I think I will leave the decision til after Santiago.Tossing up whether to get a Brierley's guide for this route (going to borrow one from the library to see what it's like) or whether to just stick with the CSJ one combined with gronze elevations and our list of accommodations. Any preferences amongst those who have walked this route?
Last year I took guides on my phone for Baztan, Salvador and Primitivo and found them a bit tricky to use on the small screen and ended up just winging it each day! This time we intend to take our time and spend lots of time sitting at cafes and so we'd have time to read Mr Brierley if his guide is anything like the Frances one.
Appeltje, eitje !I found the following site full of useful information on, amongst otherCaminos, the Portugues which can be downloaded as PDF files: www.camminando.eu/wordpress/in-portogallo/
Of course, you are required to understand Italian or French, which for us Dutch is like eating a piece of cake
Does this guide include places of interest to see - like the boat building museum in Vila do Conde and chapels and churches etc or is it merely maps and accoms?Brierley has a thin and light booklet of the caminho Portuges with only maps and information about places to sleep with phonenumbers
No only maps and the phonenumbers of places to stay.Does this guide include places of interest to see - like the boat building museum in Vila do Conde and chapels and churches etc or is it merely maps and accoms?
Muchas gracias ! Un saludo deste lado do mundoFor those who understand sufficient Spanish, the following site could be interesting, since it gives full info on the various Caminhos in Portugal, maps and explanations, etc.
www.caminador.es
The page opens on O'Luis do Freixo. Scroll down until Caminos Portugueses a Santiago. Scroll to Guias detalladas and click on the route which interests you. For example B - De Porto a Vigo. (Caminho Atlántico)
Happy surfing!
Now I'm not so sure about the performance of my group, might need a bus on the second or third day of our trip. Any info about bus services in Portugal? Maybe something like spanish (https://www.alsa.es/)? Thanks in advance
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