Red Hugh O Donnell (Aogh Ruadh Ó Domhnaill) possible gravesite found in Valladolid.

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• May 26, 2020

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An interesting story here. These articles included in the below links provide a brief summary of one of the early modern political connections concerning Spain and Gaelic Ireland.

Photos and information courtesy of the Irish Times, Irish Independent, and Irish Sun newspapers.

Archaeologists are ‘quite sure’ they have found Red Hugh O’Donnell’s burial place

Spanish team is set to begin a dig inside the remains of a chapel in Valladolid

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Bones found on the fifth day of dig in search for Red Hugh

Bones have been found on the fifth day of the search for the remains of Red Hugh O'Donnell on the streets of Valladolid in Spain.

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Tale of Irish Chieftain Red Hugh O'Donnell as Spanish archaeologists hunt for burial place

ARCHAEOLOGISTS in Spain are hoping to find the 400-year-old burial place of Irish Chieftain Red Hugh O’Donnell. Historical experts in Valladolid, a city in the north west of the country, believe th…

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• May 26, 2020

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My ancestors on my mother's side are O'DONNELS, so got quite excited about this! There use to be a flight to this airport from UK but it got discontinued .Sad !

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• May 26, 2020

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Very interesting articles, every day is a school day.

 

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Another one, year after year...

• May 26, 2020

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Interesting! Thank you!

 

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Nodtralee, Thank you for sharing this information. It is great to think that they have finally found the remains of Red Hugh. Imagine if the remains could be brought back to his home place in the north of Ireland. After 400 years it would be some occasion.

 

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• May 26, 2020

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Thanks, fascinating story.

 

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• May 30, 2020

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A great, almost mythical, Irish hero. It would be pretty extraordinary if bones can be found which DNA shows to have been Red Hugh. Eight, rather than ten, toes would surely help. Who knows we might even learn whether the suspicion that he was poisoned by Queen Elizabeth's agents has any substance.

 

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• May 31, 2020

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Most interesting although I don't know of any Gaelic ancestors of mine but I always liked Irish(wo)men. They can compete with us in partying (well, you know what I mean...) but we just can't compete with them in humour

One thing puzzles me though. In the third link (https://www.thesun.ie/news/5459016/red-hugh-o-donnell-burial-spain-archaeologists/) the years of birth and death on Red Hugh's monument in Co Donegal says 1427-1505 but all the texts have 1572-1602. What am I missing?

 

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• May 31, 2020

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KinkyOne said:

Most interesting although I don't know of any Gaelic ancestors of mine but I always liked Irish(wo)men. They can compete with us in partying (well, you know what I mean...) but we just can't compete with them in humour

One thing puzzles me though. In the third link (https://www.thesun.ie/news/5459016/red-hugh-o-donnell-burial-spain-archaeologists/) the years of birth and death on Red Hugh's monument in Co Donegal says 1427-1505 but all the texts have 1572-1602. What am I missing?

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Good Morning Kinky One
They are two different people .A search of the internet will further enlighten you on their history.I am Irish but not an expert on this subject . Lots of O'Donnells in Ireland.

 

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• May 31, 2020

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Hello,

KinkyOne you are dead right. While the text in the third article is accurate, the monument picture you mention was a bit of a blunder!

I'm fairly sure that the newspapers author/editor included a different monument picture in the article. That Red Hugh O Donnell monument in the third picture would have been an ancestor of the Red Hugh supposedly buried in Valladolid. Apparently from a little research just done that monument in the third article depicts a Red Hugh O Donnell known locally in Donegal, (the area of the O Donnell dynasty), as Red Hugh I. The Red Hugh supposedly buried in Valladolid is referred to as Red Hugh II.

The link here shows an image of the monument for whom the Red Hugh is attributed to Valladolid.

The Gaelic Chieftain © Brian Lenehan

Two miles north of the town of Boyle, is the site of the Battle of the Curlews, which took place in 1599. An English force under Sir Conyers Clifford was ambushed by a rebel Irish force led by Red Hugh O'Donnell while marching through a pass in the Curlew Mountains. The statue representing...

www.geograph.ie

Courtesy of Geography.ie.

Hope this clears that matter up for you.

KinkyOne said:

Most interesting although I don't know of any Gaelic ancestors of mine but I always liked Irish(wo)men. They can compete with us in partying (well, you know what I mean...) but we just can't compete with them in humour

One thing puzzles me though. In the third link (https://www.thesun.ie/news/5459016/red-hugh-o-donnell-burial-spain-archaeologists/) the years of birth and death on Red Hugh's monument in Co Donegal says 1427-1505 but all the texts have 1572-1602. What am I missing?

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