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What prayer might actually do

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For those not offended by the idea that god may not be the source of all benefits from prayer and meditation, here is an abstract on what meditation, likely at least a component of prayer as well, does:

You could think about thinking while thinking.
 
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What prayer might not actually do

In addition to Falc's interesting post above, there was a major study done on the effects of prayer on people who were ill.

The results showed that it had no effect whatsoever on those being prayed for.

It seems that prayer only helps the one who prays.
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Accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative. I like to focus on what can be done, not what cannot. The latter list is way too long for me.
 
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I think you guys have been thinking too much....

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hel&scott said:
I think you guys have been thinking too much....

:evil: and have recently discovered smilies

Heaven help us when you learn how to txt!

I think you guys have not been thinking enough....
and have recently discovered smilies :evil:

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I'd love to read those studies on prayer not achieving any success, do you have a link?

My experience has been different, honestly. I get about 99% success.

I pretty much get what I ask for, every single time, whether I'm saying, "I need a tape recorder!" and I go out and it's sitting on top of the dumpster, or "I need $35 to pay the electric bill" and voila! Somebody buys something from my Etsy shop.

I even get prayers answer when I shouldn't be asking... like when I prayed my abusive father would drop dead when I was 17 and his plane crashed, killing my 15 year old brother also. That taught me to be careful what I ask for!

Perhaps it is a coincidence, but I prefer to believe that I'm manifesting my own reality by my wants, or "prayers" if you will.

Each prayer I carried to Santiago, whether for pagan or Christian friends, manifested.

Maybe I'm just lucky... :lol: :?: :wink:
 
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Hi AS

I have absolutely no doubt at all about the honesty of your experiences.

The study was cited in Christopher Hitchens' "God is not Great". I've just looked quickly but can't find the relevant page. Actually, there was reference to a negative effect on patients.

Later

Atlantic Books, 2007. p281.............."the largest study of prayer ever undertaken had discovered yet again that there was no correlation of any kind between "intercessory" prayer and the recovery of patients. (Well perhaps some correlation: patients who knew that prayers were being said for them had more post-operative complications than those who did not)....."
 
Well, I for one, agree with Annie. Every prayer I have ever offered to God has been answered. I think one of the most important things to remember, if you follow the teachings of the Bible, is that everything happens in God's own time, which of course is very different to our concept of time. So, that throws a very interesting light on these particular studies - they were performed/judged/based on a human concept of time. How can they possibly then expect the 'results' to be conclusive?

 
Hi Em

Hitchens states that there have been many similar studies. Check him/them out.

I will only say about "time" that if you're ill you can't afford to wait around too long.

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Caminando said:
Hi Em

Hitchens states that there have been many similar studies. Check him/them out.

I will only say about "time" that if you're ill you can't afford to wait around too long.

buen camino!

Hi Caminando

One could consider that perhaps 'time' spent on this earth has come to an end for such a person and that it is God's wish that the person moves on? Again - His time is not to be confused with our time...

Buen camino!
 

Hi Em
I find this is fatalism, or the Islamic "inshallah", and I cant sign up for that.
 
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Hi again Caminando

I don't see this as fatalism but you're certainly entitled to your own opinion!
 

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