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  1. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    Every Camino begins with one step. On taking that step a lot of people doubt if they will succeed. I think it's a shame to not even try. The key, in my mind, is dialogue. And for dialogue, it helps if we're speaking the same language (for example, the whole Camino is not a Pedestrian Zone)...
  2. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    Thank you. I think it is very important to the discussion that people understand that people on foot have no right to priority for the entire Camino. By highlighting that, I am not in any way, claiming a right to ride as fast, as irresponsibly or as feckless as I like. There is a happy...
  3. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    Can you answer the question if the entire CF is a pedestrian zone? Please.
  4. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    Is the entire 800km approx Camino Francés, as marked by the yellow arrows, a pedestrian area?
  5. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    Is this not a part of the problem? People taking notions from their home country and applying them to Spain? You are correct in so far as the designation of the pavement applies. Councils, normally do this, based on a multitude of criteria and the reality is that to the lay-person walking down...
  6. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    I apologise. I can see how what I wrote could be seen as putting words in your mouth. I dislike that, so I offer my excuses for clumsy wording. The point I was trying to make, using your post as a springboard, was that I am confused by what "take to the roads" actually means. I am pretty sure...
  7. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    Lots of "old guys" go great places on their bikes! I get perturbed at the notion that the road in the photo earlier may be prohibited to bikes. It is a public road. I'd have no problem with time limits on certain sections. (No bikes before, say, 2 pm). The notion of telling a local that an...
  8. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    The thing is though, it may be biking etiquette in the US and well known amongst the cycling community but has anyone ever bothered to check if the non cycling community understand? And yes, it happens on the Camino. I lived a long time in the Netherlands - more bikes than people - and only...
  9. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    My Compostela says otherwise. :) Hello Pot, meet Kettle. Other than personal digs and bald statements is there anything you wish to, you know, discuss?
  10. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    I hope that you can enjoy your medically induced downtime. My experience was similar to yours. I too had issues with groups of cyclists. I do understand the concerns expressed by walkers. But can I ask you how would you feel about being obliged to stick to the roads?
  11. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    Can I ask why you would take such an approach after such an incident? You give the guy or gal on the bike a smile, a "Buen Camino" and they think everything is OK. Would it not be better to flag them down and explain what you have just written here? No argument from me. Yes, they are and in...
  12. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    Please don't. I don't. A Pilgrim on a bicycle is not a Pilgrim? Is that something denied to those of us who cycle? I have no issues with "all of you". I entered this thread to refute the suggestion that everywhere and at every time on an 800km route two legs have priority over two wheels. I...
  13. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    Isn't that the $1000,000 question. Where is the pedestrian? On any road, anywhere, where traffic is on the RHS, a pedestrian on the right I will overtake on the left. A pedestrian on the left I will keep my lane. Two pedestrians can confuse matters, especially if they are on both sides of...
  14. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    It is quite sensitive when people assert something as fact. It can breed resentment (for no reason) and result in people taking the law into their own hands. Here is a recent UK case which is horrifying given that the poor victim was about as far away from the stereotypical "cyclist" as it is...
  15. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    With respect, that is not evidence that Pedestrians have priority over cyclists.
  16. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    That's very true, sometimes especially so on a loaded bike. In general, I think there may be a lot of misunderstanding here. I know of no person on a bike who wants to crash into someone. The best thing a person on foot can do is to stand their ground, not suddenly move left or right...
  17. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    There was no intention to doubt someone's word. I have asked (and am still waiting) for evidence that backs up I believe that to be incorrect, open to misinterpretation and potentially dangerous when people take the "law" into their own hands. With respect, in any debate I find it unhelpful to...
  18. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    I posed my question for the OP, and despite them responding to the thread it has not been answered. (For the record, there are motorways, some Plazas, Private Property and precious few other places where it is illegal for me to take my bike). Given that the CF is some 800+km long, with numerous...
  19. Flatlander

    Cyclists

    Would you be so good as to provide some evidence for this please. Thank you
  20. Flatlander

    New law gathering personal information from travellers in Spain, starting Feb. 2023

    Good for you. Not everyone has thought about that. And as suggested elsewhere I'd suggest using a VPN to help keep your online activity secure.

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