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I have BOA closures on my shoes. I can tighten and loosen them without bending over (one foot at a time) they won't become untied and being the first out in the morning I don't bother others with my shoe ceremony. As for testing others while walking, excusing one's self to walk alone ,faster or slower should be easily expressed without being rude or misinterpreted...... Buen Camino...... Willy, UtahThis reminds me of a young man in his late 20s who was walking with my son. My son told me later that he thought he must have been boring the guy to tears because he suddenly said, "See you later! I have to go see a man about a horse!" and loped off. In Texas saying that means you have to pee - but he never saw him again.
In Santiago we ran into the guy again and it turned out he had actually gone to see a man about a horse (with disastrous results).
Thanks!Ok, so on this forum we are all so jazzed up about learning about each other, chatting, growing, etc.
On the Camino I've been exposed to so many different people, and I must admit, some of them I am interested to learn more about, some I am not.
On occasion, I have come across particular peregrinos who I want to hang out with more. Most likely they speak my language. Most likely they smile. Most likely they have a unique story about why they are walking the camino and it is interesting.
Sometimes they are not so interesting and I would rather be alone.
Now, when I have met someone that I consider interesting, it worries me that maybe, just maybe, they would rather be left alone, and I would hate to burden them with my presence.
And hence, I came up with this test to make sure I am not overstepping my welcome:
STOP, BEND OVER, AND TIE YOUR SHOES.
If they keep walking without noticing, your best course is slip away without pursuing the conversation any more.
If they stop, and wait for you...
KEEP TALKING.
gotcha.....I stand correctedMark, you must have misunderstood my post. I was writing about a way to confirm that a fellow peregrino wants to walk with ME, not about how to get rid of someone I didn't want to walk with. It was a fun happy post, I would never be so mean spirited to write about how to get rid of someone.
Ummm... Read it again.This is a horrible thread . The Camino is about the Other, ( see Hegel's Constitutive Other)....... and not about the Self.
Ok, truth of the matter is I came up with this test and theory by accident when I was chatting up a peregrinA who was quite attractive... My shoelace actually failed and I stopped to tie it. When she stopped too I was blown away... Wow... This girl wants to talk... Later on I told others on the camino the story and they laughed and liked it so I thought I'd share it here.Hi Damian. I am not saying that what you say is horrible........... your comment is very nice actually, but it is horrible that we have to think in such a way, without true Freedom of the spirit.
Rock on !
Say "sorry, I have to move the (leashed ) goat (to another place where still is fresh grass after she has eaten all where she is at the moment)This reminds me of a young man in his late 20s who was walking with my son. My son told me later that he thought he must have been boring the guy to tears because he suddenly said, "See you later! I have to go see a man about a horse!" and loped off. In Texas saying that means you have to pee - but he never saw him again.
In Santiago we ran into the guy again and it turned out he had actually gone to see a man about a horse (with disastrous results).
Damien
Clearly some people have heard your intent and others have missed it entirely....I suspect if your attractive peregrina story had been embedded in your original post there would have been less confusion. Unfortunately it seems some people may have been alienated enough to not return to this thread to find your explanation.
I appreciate that you were considering others and not wanting to be a burden on them - I found myself doing the same. People would often stop to walk with our crew, but because I didn't want them to feel like they had to stay with us all day because we walked a few km together, at an appropriate time I would ask them if they were happy with our slow pace (or ask if they would mind if we stepped up the pace) - sometimes they stayed with us and other times they powered off. Simple communication works - but I still think your story is funny!
By the way, one day from our last camino springs to mind when I think about to walk or not to walk with someone - here 'tis
https://charitywalking.wordpress.com/2014/06/21/20-june-a-fonsagrada-to-castroverde/
Mark, you must have misunderstood my post. I was writing about a way to confirm that a fellow peregrino wants to walk with ME, not about how to get rid of someone I didn't want to walk with. It was a fun happy post, I would never be so mean spirited to write about how to get rid of someone.
I didn't mean you, specifically. No worries.Of course "commenting" is quite different than "schooling". I think it's really hard for people to communicate online without inadvertently stepping on someone's feelings, or pressing a "hot button." I never intend any harm, and know that no one else really does either. Or at least I hope not!
lucky......Ok, truth of the matter is I came up with this test and theory by accident when I was chatting up a peregrinA who was quite attractive... My shoelace actually failed and I stopped to tie it. When she stopped too I was blown away... Wow... This girl wants to talk... Later on I told others on the camino the story and they laughed and liked it so I thought I'd share it here.
Damien
Clearly some people have heard your intent and others have missed it entirely....I suspect if your attractive peregrina story had been embedded in your original post there would have been less confusion. Unfortunately it seems some people may have been alienated enough to not return to this thread to find your explanation.
I appreciate that you were considering others and not wanting to be a burden on them - I found myself doing the same. People would often stop to walk with our crew, but because I didn't want them to feel like they had to stay with us all day because we walked a few km together, at an appropriate time I would ask them if they were happy with our slow pace (or ask if they would mind if we stepped up the pace) - sometimes they stayed with us and other times they powered off. Simple communication works - but I still think your story is funny!
By the way, one day from our last camino springs to mind when I think about to walk or not to walk with someone - here 'tis
https://charitywalking.wordpress.com/2014/06/21/20-june-a-fonsagrada-to-castroverde/
As long as you stop when she ties her shoes.
How about if Damien ties her shoes for her? Yeah!!
Crazy how things can get taken the wrong way. So let's keep moving in a positive way, maybe hold hands and sing Kumbaya or something.
Is that how people get engaged on the Camino? By tying each other's shoes? D:
I worry to think so! I'm sure that one look at MY feet after a long walk could be grounds for immediate divorce!! That said, I'm open to foot rubsand I will take care of anyone's feet, gladly, with humility and joy. Seriously, I will take care of you people. I'm down to 54 days left of work...
Nice story and your blog is an inspiration.By the way, one day from our last camino springs to mind when I think about to walk or not to walk with someone - here 'tis
https://charitywalking.wordpress.com/2014/06/21/20-june-a-fonsagrada-to-castroverde/
How about if Damien ties her shoes for her? Yeah!!
Was it "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" or "Sundown"?I was having a nice quiet drink by myself in a cafe but made the fatal mistake of singing a Gordon Lightfoot song to myself,headphones on(after a few beers)and suddenly found myself surrounded by Canadians,the rest of my Camino was full of Canadians asking me to sing,my back was sore tying my laces
Was it "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" or "Sundown"?
I love that song....."what a tale my thoughts would tell...."If you could read my mind
Once when walking the Camino I met this awesome girl from Canada. Our conversation was fun, witty and self sardonic. We took a stop and both used the restroom. When I got out I seen her floppy hat heading way down the trail. I thought oh geesh she must of thought I left because she's walking really fast to catch me. So I double timed it to try to catch her but damn she was flying in those nicely fitted hiking pants and that Osprey pack she liked so much. It was to big of gap to close at that pace so figured I catch her when she stops. For the next 15K ! I started to doubt my enjoyable experience and even questioned whether it was mutual. I had plenty of time to go back and rethink our two hour conversation. Did I say something stupid? Did I offend my new friend? WHATS WRONG WITH ME !
After about three hours she was finally slowing sown. Now I am walking with some Australians and explained my plight and they encouraged me to close that gap. So I sheepishly pick up the pace; she glances behind and sees me and ducks into an albergue. Now I got two decisions. One keep walking (it's been a long day); two go in and say hi (awkward). So there I was standing outside trying to figure out if I am a man or a mouse. After a long three minutes I go in and with a big smile she turns my way and says buen camino. I looked up at that floppy hat those nice fitting hiking pants and of course that osprey pack and realized I'd been chasing the wrong girl for over three hours. Sad to say never ran into my Canadian friend again.
Stop bend over and tie your shoes.
Once when walking the Camino I met this awesome girl from Canada.
I dont have the problem. I walk so slowly, I fully understand when people walk on and I can blame my slow progress rather than think I am boring others. However, since it has been said if talking was an olympic sport, I could win gold for Ireland, maybe then, I am boring the pants off everyone else. But then I still hide behind my slow walkingOk, so on this forum we are all so jazzed up about learning about each other, chatting, growing, etc.
On the Camino I've been exposed to so many different people, and I must admit, some of them I am interested to learn more about, some I am not.
On occasion, I have come across particular peregrinos who I want to hang out with more. Most likely they speak my language. Most likely they smile. Most likely they have a unique story about why they are walking the camino and it is interesting.
Sometimes they are not so interesting and I would rather be alone.
Now, when I have met someone that I consider interesting, it worries me that maybe, just maybe, they would rather be left alone, and I would hate to burden them with my presence.
And hence, I came up with this test to make sure I am not overstepping my welcome:
STOP, BEND OVER, AND TIE YOUR SHOES.
If they keep walking without noticing, your best course is slip away without pursuing the conversation any more.
If they stop, and wait for you...
KEEP TALKING.
Ok, truth of the matter is I came up with this test and theory by accident when I was chatting up a peregrinA who was quite attractive... My shoelace actually failed and I stopped to tie it. When she stopped too I was blown away... Wow... This girl wants to talk... Later on I told others on the camino the story and they laughed and liked it so I thought I'd share it here.
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