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Only applies in Galicia. Reserving beds in the public Albergues. Stated intent is to be able to keep track of Pilgrims "in case something happens". I for one have no intention of availing myself of the obvious benefits.A Reservation système will take care of all the beds available on the Camino.
Your Spanish is obviously better then mind...Only applies in Galicia. Reserving beds in the public Albergues. Stated intent is to be able to keep track of Pilgrims "in case something happens". I for one have no intention of availing myself of the obvious benefits.
They could digitalize the existing list of id's that the albergues are turning in to their local policia already. By putting scanners into the policia offices. Gotta be less expensive than a new "comprehensive" information collecting system. Just my $0.02! [Edited to add] If they're really about finding people, that is, instead of controlling reservations. Some of us don't make reservations.For the current times, having a digitalized list of pilgrims might be useful for potential tracking of pilgrims that might have been close to an outbreak area. I just don't understand why to invest a bunch of money (I work as a programmer, so I am a bit familiar with the huge costs of these systems) and develop something while you can use solutions that are safe and way cheaper and could be used across all the routes and autonomous communities of Spain.
The problem is that there isn't any "central management" of the central government for the different Caminos and the Xunta can't do anything outside Galicia so far.I am under the impression that Galicia software implementation could be just a pilot. When tested and implemented it could become for all the provinces in Spain.
To me it does not make any economical sence to create this application for just Galicia.
Time will tell.
It's a booking app and not a tracking app. When they say "we are developing an application for both the [Galician] Camino's publicly owned hostels [albergues] and for private hostels that do not have a reservation system. There are many hostels that are on popular platforms, like Booking.com for example, but what we want is to have a certain knowledge of where people are moving, where they are sleeping in case there is a problem and to be able to act", I guess that can be interpreted in several ways. I'd think it's about steering the flow of pilgrims and matching demand and supply of beds, in particular in view of the upcoming Holy Year 2021 and subsequent Holy Years. I don't think it's primarily Covid-19 related although the current reduction of available beds may well have given a major impulse.For the current times, having a digitalized list of pilgrims might be useful for potential tracking of pilgrims that might have been close to an outbreak area
HiOnly applies in Galicia. Reserving beds in the public Albergues. Stated intent is to be able to keep track of Pilgrims "in case something happens". I for one have no intention of availing myself of the obvious benefits.
I guess the difference is between a Covid tracer app, storing 'phone number / email & PID and a booking app which will store some or all of the above plus your previous and projected locations when utilised. However, there seems to be no element of compulsion though the opportunity to guarantee a bed in a public Albergue might have been desirable in the coming Holy Year and may have some value in this.There are actually EU issued guidelines for these government sponsored Covid-19 tracking apps and there's the requirement for GDPR compliance of course. This may be a bit of a surprise:
So much of the discussion about "how do they know where I am" appears to be redundant to me.
- Limited use of personal data: An app should adhere to the principle of data minimisation, which requires that only personal data that is relevant and limited to the purpose in question can be processed. The [European] Commission considers location data not necessary for the purpose of contact tracing and advises not to use location data in this context.
I made my decision back in March and will wait until 2021, to review. I don't want to be a burden on anyone or on the Spanish health service. I also like to have the freedom to stop where I decide on the day, when this is possible.Así será la reactivación del Camino: app de reservas, menos aforo y sin espacios comunes en los albergues
El 1 de julio se reactiva de manera oficial la ruta jacobea, con la apertura de los alojamientos públicos o de la Oficina del Peregrino en Compostelawww.cope.es
A Reservation système will take care of all the beds available on the Camino.
I wonder if this is really a good thing? What do you think?
There will be elections for the Xunta on Sunday. A change in the government is not likely, but who knows.In any case, the app in question (the one mentioned in the article with a link in the first post of this thread) is expected to be available in two months. That's September 2020. Lots of time to discuss it.
I think it would also work for those who've been before. They know how far they'll walk, where they'll end up. Whereas I've never done it, when I do I'll be strolling as far as it comfortable each day, or not, I have endless amounts of time, so the idea of organising myself into stopping spots seems overwhelmingly difficult. Even to begin to walk at the moment is merely a vague possibility.Only applies in Galicia. Reserving beds in the public Albergues. Stated intent is to be able to keep track of Pilgrims "in case something happens". I for one have no intention of availing myself of the obvious benefits.
I too do not want to be stuck to a destination I must get to at all costs. I have been known to stop after about 10 km just because I liked the look of where I was and just stopped. It was in Lorca if any one is interested. The albergue was good, the hosts were great and to just for once and be the guy sitting outside the bar watching the peregrinos go by on a nice hot sunny day was lovely. With a reservation and/or my pack sent ahead, I would not have had the choice. The camino to me is all about choice, not the strict regimen that booking ahead imposes
You were right ☺. I guess this means full speed ahead with the current plans of the Galician government for Camino and Holy Year?There will be elections for the Xunta on Sunday. A change in the government is not likely, but who knows.
SureYou were right ☺. I guess this means full speed ahead with the current plans of the Galician government for Camino and Holy Year?
There's something about Lorca. I have only made one unplanned stop ever, and that was in Lorca, just because it seemed right at the moment.Haha, me too, exactly. I had intended to walk much farther than Lorca, but just loved the feel of the place and after chatting with Jose Ramon, hospitalero at Albergue Lorca, I decided to stop and stay there. Did the same thing the next year.
There's something about Lorca. I have only made one unplanned stop ever, and that was in Lorca, just because it seemed right at the moment.
Did you meet his wife. A young Korean lady, cant remember her name, who made me feel extremely welcome. It was like other pilgrims were just passing trade while I was a VIP. A very memorable stay indeedHaha, me too, exactly. I had intended to walk much farther than Lorca, but just loved the feel of the place and after chatting with Jose Ramon, hospitalero at Albergue Lorca, I decided to stop and stay there. Did the same thing the next year.
I stayed in Lorca at Jose Romon Albergue too in August 2018, such a pleasant place . He is so nice, warm personality and good cookHaha, that's fun to hear. Most people have only walked about 6 K from their last stop when they reach Lorca and plan to walk much further. But it's such a pretty little place and, with two albergues right across from each other on a small lane, it is so friendly and comfy. And Jose Ramon (Albergue Lorca) is cute and is a good cook.
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