- Time of past OR future Camino
- cycled from Pamplona Sep 2015;Frances, walked from St Jean May/June 2017. Plans to walk Porto 2020
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Never had a problem just following the direction of the arrow.I see now that the designers are Juan Ignacio Macua and Pedro García-Ramos. I believe they are well-known Spanish designers.
Where's the 12th arrow? I count 11 lines, maximum.
To explain; in Australia to be "up a gum tree" means completely bewildered, lost, confused. Gum tree is the common word for a eucalyptus. Good photo!
I absolutely agree. I am a very literal and IMO totally logical person (maybe too much so). I walked the Frances in 2015 and found when I walked it again in 2017 that the signage was MUCH improved. My understanding is that the goal is to eventualy have all the '12 arrow' signs aligned so that the apex is towards Santiago and the 12 points away from Santiago.
Where's the 12th arrow? I count 11 lines, maximum.
Hi Kanga,I thought this was pointing me to a pulpo restaurant when I first saw it...
I always thought that the lines pointed to Santiago too... as in all paths lead to Santiago. But I was proved wrong recently on the Vezeley when (using this theory) we managed to complete a full 4km circle, walking out of a village on one road, picking up the Vezeley and following the pointers right back to the same village.
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Hi Kanga,
As I'm planning the Vézelay route for this autumn, may I ask where it was?
Buen Camino,
Jacques-D.
So a song i sang in childhood means Kookabarra sits up an old eucalyptus tree?To explain; in Australia to be "up a gum tree" means completely bewildered, lost, confused. Gum tree is the common word for a eucalyptus. Good photo!
Yes - it (the song) was the subject of a very long & involved court case - if you have heard the Men At Work song " I come from a land downunder" you might hear part of it. CheersSo a song i sang in childhood means Kookabarra sits up an old eucalyptus tree?
As i read your reply i replayed the song in my head and with a blinding moment of holy cow! No Way!Yes - it (the song) was the subject of a very long & involved court case - if you have heard the Men At Work song " I come from a land downunder" you might hear part of it. Cheers
I certainly don't claim to be an expert on matters such as this, but that's always been my understanding as well. However, I recall several places on the Camino Portugués--particularly in and around Padrón--where the rays of the shell symbol were rotated to indicate the direction of travel. There typically were no arrows present at those locations....
View attachment 34902: it's a logo, designed by the Council of Europe (nothing to do with the EU) and Spain. It does not indicate a direction. It's the logo for the CoE's Cultural Route named "Santiago De Compostela Pilgrim Routes". They awarded the title in 1987 and created the logo a few years later. The logo indicates that you are on such a route.
The logo must always be in the position as shown above, never rotated in any way. Obviously, quite a few of those who use the logo on some kind of home-made or self-styled sign, and of those who see it, are not aware of this.
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Lol option 4b j/k on the inverno kso.I thought this was pointing me to a pulpo restaurant when I first saw it...
I always thought that the lines pointed to Santiago too... as in all paths lead to Santiago. But I was proved wrong recently on the Vezeley when (using this theory) we managed to complete a full 4km circle, walking out of a village on one road, picking up the Vezeley and following the pointers right back to the same village.
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Why is it called a "12 arrow?"I absolutely agree. I am a very literal and IMO totally logical person (maybe too much so). I walked the Frances in 2015 and found when I walked it again in 2017 that the signage was MUCH improved. My understanding is that the goal is to eventualy have all the '12 arrow' signs aligned so that the apex is towards Santiago and the 12 points away from Santiago.
Like the 12 stars in the EU logo or just a visual decision, as per the document on how to use the logo, page 17.Why is it called a "12 arrow?"
I am just back from completing the Camino Frances and found the signage symbols more than a little confusing. Nearly half the Camino Signs have the "12 arrow" sign pointing one way and the other half have it pointing the opposite direction. Often less than 10 metres appart. I have posted a couple of examples. Anyone have any clues as to why this is so???
That one looks like an octopus, no wonder you thought it was pointing to pulpoI thought this was pointing me to a pulpo restaurant when I first saw it...
I always thought that the lines pointed to Santiago too... as in all paths lead to Santiago. But I was proved wrong recently on the Vezeley when (using this theory) we managed to complete a full 4km circle, walking out of a village on one road, picking up the Vezeley and following the pointers right back to the same village.
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Agreed!I was told when I first walked the Camino (in 2001) that the shell points in the direction where all the lines meet. To symbolise that all the roads lead to Santiago. But in practice it was rather random. Obviously not everyone was aware of the symbolism. Since then in Galicia and other places they were placed the other way round, elongating (sometimes) one line to indicate that is the way. I rely on the arrows. The shells are just creative chaos!
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