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The kml file is downloaded to both my phone and my computer. Easy.You can download the overlay from here.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mzw89uucaf6qc12/Camino Vasco.kml?dl=0
To use it, on the computer, you can create a map using Google MyMaps and import this kml to a new layer.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/
Or on the mobile device download Maps.Me app (free), sent the kml as attachment on an email, open the email attachment on the mobile device and it will automatically load the route overlay to Maps.Me.
Thanks, Jeff...Open the email and click on the attachment as previously advised. You should get a pop-up which asks you which app to open it with and whether you want to do it just once or always.
Shouldn't make any difference kml = keyhole markup language kmz = keyhole markup zipped.@VNwalking I have downloaded .kmz files and NOT .kml files for use in maps.me. You may try to convert the .kml file to a .kmz file with an online utility like this KML to KMZ Converter Online.
OK. Have downloaded file and opened in Google Earth:Thanks, Jeff...
I did all that, and it didn't.
Confirmed. I just sent the kml file and opened it on my iPhone. Thanks.@VNwalking I have downloaded .kmz files and NOT .kml files for use in maps.me. You may try to convert the .kml file to a .kmz file with an online utility like this KML to KMZ Converter Online.
SO annoying! I have both the maps.me app and the kml on my storage card. I'll have another fiddle with it when I come home later - never give up!Thanks, Jeff...Yes it is.
I have the file stored on my phone in the 'my files' folder. It says no apps are installed that will open it.
Even thought there are both Google Earth AND Maps.me
And if I attach it to an email message the email cannot fetch the attachment - it just hangs.
I was marginally more successful with another file in a different format that I downloaded - a wikiloc track - and another app (osmand). But the thing is I cannot download the base map because the app will only save it to my device, and not the SD card. So I have the track, and the app that can read it...but not the detailed map.
Well...so zipped or unzipped...
My mind is what's getting zipped.
Jeff, I think you ARE a genious!By no means a genius but the method I use to overlay on maps.me is to email the .kml to myself. Open the email and click on the attachment as previously advised. You should get a pop-up which asks you which app to open it with and whether you want to do it just once or always.
Try it and see; if that's not clear I'll do some screen shots for you.
Rick, I thnk you ARE a genious!I haven't ever loaded a track file into maps.me but from everything I've read Jeff is doing things right.
As for the straight line, that can be partly explained by the track having two track segments marked when shown in Google Earth but only one track segment marked when maps.me reads it. Why one segment markup gets deleted but not the segment's data still needs explaining.
Jeff, what language is this you are speaking?Shouldn't make any difference kml = keyhole markup language kmz = keyhole markup zipped.
Just remember, VN has an android. So do I. The two don't always seem to function the same, at least for me. I'm at the bottom of the barrel for IT smarts!Confirmed. I just sent the kml file and opened it on my iPhone. Thanks.
American.Jeff, what language is this you are speaking?
So Maps.me can display GPS files in either KML or KMZ format. The OSM+ mapping app opens GPS files in GPX format. There are online converters.The procedure for Android vs. iOS seems to be similar. This is comforting.
Suggest saving this as a resource, rewording it to "How to save a file (e.g. kml) to Android).
Thanks for the assist.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<kml xmlns="http://www.opengis.net/kml/2.2" xmlns:gx="http://www.google.com/kml/ext/2.2" xmlns:kml="http://www.opengis.net/kml/2.2" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom">
<Document>
<name>Fenway</name>
<Style id="line-000000-4">
<LineStyle>
<color>ff000000</color>
<width>4</width>
</LineStyle>
</Style>
<Folder>
<name>Fenway</name>
<Placemark>
<name>Fenway</name>
<description>The Fenway, Boston</description>
<styleUrl>#line-000000-4</styleUrl>
<LineString>
<coordinates>
-71.1032634973526,42.34275332463874,0 -71.10160052776337,42.34107610925428,0 -71.10075294971466,42.34031084008987,0 -71.10007166862488,42.33978743819943,0 -71.09943330287933,42.33935523183901,0 -71.09894514083862,42.33909352746119,0 -71.09817266464233,42.33875251709215,0 -71.09768986701965,42.33867321209011,0 -71.09733045101166,42.33876441283382,0 -71.09702467918396,42.33890319632045,0 -71.09686374664307,42.33904197950078,0 -71.09632194042206,42.33968830856281,0 -71.09594106674194,42.33996587115153,0 -71.09431028366089,42.34062408610696,0 -71.09316766262054,42.34090957478859,0 -71.09275460243225,42.34104042333448,0 -71.09247028827667,42.34117523670304,0 -71.09217524528503,42.34138142129581,0 -71.09191238880157,42.34161536068807,0 -71.09174609184265,42.34185722931402,0 -71.09160661697388,42.34208720189878,0 -71.09154224395752,42.34234889381686,0 -71.09146177768707,42.34304276862979,0 -71.09134912490845,42.34330842153103,0 -71.09108626842499,42.34364544225312,0 -71.09091460704803,42.34385954859696,0 -71.09073221683502,42.34434326765223,0 -71.09078049659729,42.34448996859745,0 -71.09078049659729,42.34464063407672,0 -71.09074294567108,42.34484680730532,0 -71.09061419963837,42.34527897591745,0 -71.0906195640564,42.34548911187557,0 -71.09073221683502,42.34606004376225,0 -71.0907107591629,42.34614726901057,0 -71.0908180475235,42.34645255642662,0 -71.0908180475235,42.34655960490974,0
</coordinates>
</LineString>
</Placemark>
</Folder>
</Document>
</kml>
Bless.Wow, Thanks, Jeff!
Yes.
It.
Is.
Can't find anything to quibble with there - I don't use default mapping apps because I like to choose. Sometimes IGN Espana is my app of choice for Camino routes.Okay. I just tried my first import of a KML file into maps.me. The steps were:
So Maps.me opened a KML file for me but not you. So I looked into why. Remember, I'm running Android too.
- Downloaded a KML file to my laptop (it was for a place I already had a maps.me maps of)
- Emailed the KML file to myself
- Opened the email on my smartphone.
- Clicked the attachment.
- Maps.me came up right away but was asking me to turn on location.
- Clicked "close" (I didn't want to turn it on)
- Maps.me seemed to take a long time doing anything (except spinning a widget)
- I used Android (not maps.me) to turn on location.
- Maps.me then moved the screen to my current location (home)
- I used Maps.me to zoom out and then in to the location that the KML file was for.
- The track was there.
Let us know how this goes.
- Go to Settings
- Now Apps & notifications
- Scroll to and click Maps.me
- Click Advanced (to get to Open by default)
- Click Open by default
- Brings you to Opening links
- Click Open supported links
- You have 3 choices, "Open in this app", "Ask every time", "Don't open in this app"
- You probably want Open in this app but if you have other apps that can use KML files you may want Ask every time
Imagine a long, long, long version of this:Can you imagine how frustrating Tech Support must doing things like this everyday?
A remedy of last resort it to place the phone/tablet in a stout, brown paper bag. Place the bag in a lockable drawer. Give the key to somebody who loves and cares about you. Go and lay down in a darkened room where nobody can hear your sobs.I seem to be under a tech hex tonight. Now I cannot even quote your messages, but at least they raised a chuckle. Especially the bit about the 5 year-old. Too right.
SO, Rick, I tried all that and must be running a different, maybe older, Android version than you.
When I open settings I don't get the same things as you.
When I open Settings , then Apps, and click on maps.me, there's no choice for 'advanced' or any way to get to 'open by default.' I tried a bunch of ways.
The options are:
If I click on the latter, then it says
- Data
- Battery
- Storage
- Memory
- Notifications
- Permissions
- Set by Default
'none set as default,' and there is nothing to be done.
There is a place that asks the same basic 3 questions, but clicking 'ask every time' doesn't make anything change.
It's as if the apps are invisible when I try to open the file, even though they are sitting there in plain sight.
I wish we were sitting around a table in an albergue or something and I could just give one of you the darn phone...sigh...
But I so appreciate the help...
Any other brilliant ideas will be most gratefully received.
What, not throwing it out the window or hitting it with a sledgehammer??A remedy of last resort it to place the phone/tablet in a stout, brown paper bag. Place the bag in a lockable drawer. Give the key to somebody who loves and cares about you. Go and lay down in a darkened room where nobody can hear your sobs.
We seem to live in different tech universes. It just says 'fetching attachment,' but never does. Which is why I attached the phone to the computer and copied the file to the phone manually with file manager.Maybe this will work for you too.
By maps do you mean the maps that show all the roads, cities, houses, lakes, etc. or do you mean the tracks that show you the path that you want to walk over the maps? And by tracks I also mean files in either the kml, kmz or gpx format with those suffixes attached to the file name.And as I write the maps are downloading.
Yes, same. That's what I mean too. So at least we are speaking roughly the same language.By maps do you mean the maps that show all the roads, cities, houses, lakes, etc. or do you mean the tracks that show you the path that you want to walk over the maps? And by tracks I also mean files in either the kml, kmz or gpx format with those suffixes attached to the file name.
Yes, Vnwalking. Wait till you get there. Someone will have something. For sure....I seem to be under a tech hex tonight. Now I cannot even quote your messages, but at least they raised a chuckle. Especially the bit about the 5 year-old. Too right.
SO, Rick, I tried all that and must be running a different, maybe older, Android version than you.
When I open settings I don't get the same things as you.
When I open Settings , then Apps, and click on maps.me, there's no choice for 'advanced' or any way to get to 'open by default.' I tried a bunch of ways.
The options are:
If I click on the latter, then it says
- Data
- Battery
- Storage
- Memory
- Notifications
- Permissions
- Set by Default
'none set as default,' and there is nothing to be done.
There is a place that asks the same basic 3 questions, but clicking 'ask every time' doesn't make anything change.
It's as if the apps are invisible when I try to open the file, even though they are sitting there in plain sight.
I wish we were sitting around a table in an albergue or something and I could just give one of you the darn phone...sigh...
But I so appreciate the help...
Any other brilliant ideas will be most gratefully received.
A remedy of last resort it to place the phone/tablet in a stout, brown paper bag. Place the bag in a lockable drawer. Give the key to somebody who loves and cares about you. Go and lay down in a darkened room where nobody can hear your sobs.
Fine. But there is no option to download the map to the sd card, and there is not enough memory on the phone, not even close.To download your maps: Open OSMand. Select the menu button (the stack of three horizontal lines.) Next pick Download maps.
Ah, no, Vnwalking,. You have a lot to show for it. Some folks are going to bust their gut to make sure you never again lose your way. ISn’t that something?!!!No offense taken at all.
Meanwhile before the nuclear option of the brown paper bag and the lockable drawer, I thought 'OK, so the kml files won't work. Try again with osmand and the wikiloc tracks....soooo....going back to that old thread from last time I tried something like this:
Fine. But there is no option to download the map to the sd card, and there is not enough memory on the phone, not even close.
Checkmate.
Brown paper bag time.....
One last question for the night. You guys actually LIKE this technology??!!!!
I've wasted the better part of the afternoon and a bunch of the evening too, with nothing to show for it except for a crowd of unwholesome mindstates.
OTOH:
- Buy a paper map.
- Open it.
- Make sure your eyes are open.
- If acuity is not so good, remember that you have your glasses on top of your head.
- Put them on.
- Voila.
I really do think that the problem is associating the maps.me app and kml and kmz formats. I did show you how for the latest version of Android but since you don't have that version you've still have the problem. I did make an attempt to find installation instructions for older Androids but so far no luck. But, rather than trying to find someone close at hand knowing maps.me you might be able to find someone knowing how to do a file to app association.I just downloaded the detailed map for the Basque Country...
But I cannot get the kml file as an overlay.
Be sure it is compatible with the latest version and direction of your wind operating system or it won't run (but you'll have to.)Buy a paper map.
Open it.
Thank you @evanlow but no luck, I'm afraid.Basically, it works others but not for your Galaxy Tab. You can try one more thing.
1. Delete the Maps.me app from your Galaxy Tab.
2. If you have a file manager, look into main storage. There should be directory still there with the name 'MapsWithMe'. Remove the whole directory too. This clears all maps.me traces from the device.
3. Reboot the tablet.
4. Install Maps.me again.
5. Now try to see if it the kml will load.
Thank you, @Albertagirl , on both counts!Good luck to all pilgrims whose competence with such current technology is as primitive as my own. And Buen Camino @VNwalking.
I second that.I do not know whether this can be of any help, but I have just discovered that use of an alternate offline map can sometimes help when maps.me is not working for me. I have the IGN maps, with the camino routes overlay. I do not often use this app, but have decided to do so as maps.me does not give as much detail for a detour which I am planning to take from the Camino Madrid this fall. I want to go to La Granja de San Ildefonso, but maps.me, with the camino route overlay, does not provide any road or trail which connects with the camino overlay and goes to La Granja. However, minor roads and trails are marked on the IGN map for the same area, which can be used offline. One such minor route connects to Valsain, and on to La Granja. As far as I know, the IGN maps are only for Spain. So I am not able to confirm whether my current location is visible on the offline maps. This is certainly desirable information, but to at least be able to see on a map where the route connects to the camino is also useful for me and reassures me that I can find and follow the desired route. Good luck to all pilgrims whose competence with such current technology is as primitive as my own. And Buen Camino @VNwalking.
Is that the same as OsmAnd? I've just taken a look at that - much more detail in the maps but might need a while to get used to it. GPX version of route attached.@VNwalking you could try OSM+. The free version allows 5 (?) map downloads and that should be enough to cover your path. The two apps build their maps using the same Open Street Map data, although they have maps covering slightly different areas (e.g. NE Spain versus Navarra) and a map downloaded for one won't work for the other. OSM+ needs tracks to be in the GPX format but the app and track mechanism should work the same way as described earlier. Yeah, I can read your mind.
Yep, one and the same. You might see it with both names. It is somewhat more complicated to use with some of the features but not the part of showing you whether you are on the track you want. And it works LOTS better than maps.me if you don't have maps.me installed on your device. Thanks for taking the time getting the GPX file. V can use the saved time I'm sure.Is that the same as OsmAnd? I've just taken a look at that - much more detail in the maps but might need a while to get used to it. GPX version of route attached.
I'll keep an eye out for it! Love my GarminI take some solace when I read posts like this. Not that I enjoy seeing you suffer, VN, but it makes me feel less stupid.
I have made great strides to get my GPS skills to a basic level. I use a separate GPS Garmin device. Based on several posts on the forum, I had been mildly tempted to try my phone this year. This thread has sniffed out that thought. That will be next year's project, so by then you will have it all figured out and can help me.
Your post and all the comments have raised a lot of questions in my mind, but I will start another thread rather than hijack yours.
You're read right, Rick.@VNwalking you could try OSM+. The free version allows 5 (?) map downloads and that should be enough to cover your path. The two apps build their maps using the same Open Street Map data, although they have maps covering slightly different areas (e.g. NE Spain versus Navarra) and a map downloaded for one won't work for the other. OSM+ needs tracks to be in the GPX format but the app and track mechanism should work the same way as described earlier. Yeah, I can read your mind.
It's weird. It didn't download at all...the widget just spins...I had to use file manager and copy it from my computer.It should download and Save itself somewhere mysterious.
By then my aim at open windows and with sledgehammers will be 100%.This thread has sniffed out that thought. That will be next year's project, so by then you will have it all figured out and can help me.
Welcome - hijack away. We might learn something useful as a result.....Your post and all the comments have raised a lot of questions in my mind, but I will start another thread rather than hijack yours.
Fine, I'd love to. But where the heck is it!?Go to Settings (on the start screen) — General — Data storage folder.
Thanks, Mike. I am coming around to beginning to let that in...VN,
I may have missed something, but no-one seems to have picked up on your phone's lack of functioning memory. My feeling is that you need to borrow a (similar) phone with a decent amount of working memory and then try the various manoeuvres to load and use these apps.
When my old phone was short of memory, it would refuse to do something as simple as opening Picture Gallery (and no amount of deletion of content helped). The only cure was a new phone...
Great. In your case you will only want to do the following if you can load the maps onto the memory card but when you do load OSM+ maps of an area you will see that the area also has both contour and Wikipedia extensions. They might count against your free downloads though. What the contour extension does is obvious. The Wikipedia extension allows you to see special waypoints (a W in a circle) that if clicked bring up a copy of a Wikipedia article for that location (sometimes in English but maybe in the local language if there is no English article). Wikipedia articles often have GPS coordinates marked in them. Read about churches, dams, battles, etc as you pass them.I have Osmand workng with overlays. (Dancing a little jig... )
Ok, ok...so I have to concede that there may be something technology can do better than (most but not all) maps. That is pretty cool, I have to say.....thanks, Rick!The Wikipedia extension allows you to see special waypoints (a W in a circle) that if clicked bring up a copy of a Wikipedia article for that location (sometimes in English but maybe in the local language if there is no English article).
Well, you could buy a guide book when you get the map.Ok, ok...so I have to concede that there may be something technology can do better than (most but not all) maps.
Which would be my go-to tactic, if there were a guidebook.Well, you could buy a guide book when you get the map.
Yes, And in case it all goes kerfluey, I've printed out the basic maps from Gronze (oh ye of little faith....).Now, then, Vnwalking: feeling slightly better? Believe me, I understand tech stress and helplessness. look at all the great ideas shared as a result of saying: Help!!! Sid the Sloth, Ice Age! Yes!
I like your thinking but maps.me has a global base map; as you zoom in you're advised to download the map of the specific area you're hovering over.If it has all been solved and is working perfectly, this may be a waste of typing, but I was wondering if the problem might have been that the kml file that VNwalking had downloaded was not itself a map but an overlay that was designed to sit on top of a map. That would explain why it worked over the online maps but not without the offline maps that you didn't have.
I am trying to install a kml file (from @evanlow - thank you!) on my android to use offline, and I am having two problems.
These are the instructions I am following:
The kml file is downloaded to both my phone and my computer. Easy.
Then....................
When I tried to open the file on the android (with Maps.me installed) it told me that there was no app that could open the file. What am I doing wrong???
The overlay works fine using Google MyMaps online, but I want something that I can use offline.
On top of that (problem number 2), my phone has almost no working memory on the device - so I saved the kml file to a card; I have already deleted the maps.me app from the device as it doesn't seem to be able to open the overlay offline. So is it possible to install the app to the card rather than to the device (on Google Play?).
If you have advice, please keep it simple. I am super-stupid about things like this.
Honestly each time I try something like this the more I feel nostalgic for paper maps that need only a reasonably functional brain, rather than installation and all the attendant kerfuffle...
(Sorry...venting. There is an abundance of frustration...)
Thanks in advance, tech geniuses!
Edit...this is deja vue of a similar problem I had several years ago, but different phone, different apps (See 'similar threads' below.... The net result of that question? I followed all the advice, downloaded the apps that should have worked offline...but they didn't. And I got very lost. So I'm not wanting deja vue of that, thanks.......
Not that you need to unzip a kmz file with maps.me - the app accepts both kml and kmz.I suggest using the app Total Commander (free). In Total Commander, locate your .kml/.kmz file. Long press on the file, then tap Open with. You will (should) then have the option of opening your tack in maps.me. BTW .kmz is simply a compressed .kml - you can uncompress in Winzip or similar to extract the .kml.
Are you any further down the path to resolving this? I dug out an old Samsung, recharged to and still manage to download the kml ☹ I even got Daughter No1 to try on her phone!I am trying to install a kml file (from @evanlow - thank you!) on my android to use offline, and I am having two problems.
These are the instructions I am following:
The kml file is downloaded to both my phone and my computer. Easy.
Then....................
When I tried to open the file on the android (with Maps.me installed) it told me that there was no app that could open the file. What am I doing wrong???
The overlay works fine using Google MyMaps online, but I want something that I can use offline.
On top of that (problem number 2), my phone has almost no working memory on the device - so I saved the kml file to a card; I have already deleted the maps.me app from the device as it doesn't seem to be able to open the overlay offline. So is it possible to install the app to the card rather than to the device (on Google Play?).
If you have advice, please keep it simple. I am super-stupid about things like this.
Honestly each time I try something like this the more I feel nostalgic for paper maps that need only a reasonably functional brain, rather than installation and all the attendant kerfuffle...
(Sorry...venting. There is an abundance of frustration...)
Thanks in advance, tech geniuses!
Edit...this is deja vue of a similar problem I had several years ago, but different phone, different apps (See 'similar threads' below.... The net result of that question? I followed all the advice, downloaded the apps that should have worked offline...but they didn't. And I got very lost. So I'm not wanting deja vue of that, thanks.......
I have a Samsung, with only about 250 MB free out of 8 GB. The undeletable bloatware is totally annoying. It was not expensive and now I know why.I have Osmand working with overlays. (Dancing a little jig... )
The only remaining hang-up is how change the settings so it downloads maps to the sd card - see the top of post 53, above...
(If I end up getting another phone, that memory crunch will be less of an issue.)
Sounds like my J5! Glad you got what you needed in the end - I shall stop fretting nowDogged determination will get you everywhere, Jeff! Thank you for this kindness...
So I gave up on the kml files - something was preventing the file from opening properly or talking to maps.me. Instead I downloaded osmand...and wikiloc tracks work perfectly.
But:
I have a Samsung, with only about 250 MB free out of 8 GB. The undeletable bloatware is totally annoying. It was not expensive and now I know why.
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