can this be done?

pilgrimglenn7 · Oct 6, 2019

Hello all I have a few questions

this is for a friend

he wants to ride from santiago de compastela to fisterra to muxia to farool via a coruna back to santiago compastela and wondering if you can do this in 5 days ? like leave sunday morning finish thursday before they close for the day to get the certificate and also what time is the service in the cathedral and how do you get that certificate please thanks all

easygoing · Oct 6, 2019

If you are talking about the getting the Santiago to Fisterra and Muxia certificate you get that in the visitor center in Fisterra. They are open until 8.

hel&scott · Oct 6, 2019

It depends on how fit your cycling friend is. The region is hilly and roads are narrow, and if he is on a bike then he will be on the road and not the walking track. I assume he has designed this route to add up to at least 200km to qualify for a Compostella on his return to SJC. Not sure if this would be recognised by the pilgrims office and if he turns up late in the day he may find himself out of luck with their new que system.

Probably better if he undertook the trip for its own sake and enjoyed the roller coaster, costal ride. He'll probably pick up both a Muxia and Finisterre certificate if he asks around, and if in luck who knows he may get one in SJC.

I understand that as the inside of the cathedral in SJC is undergoing renovation services there are closed this year. If he wants to get a Compostella certificate he will need a pilgrims passport (crediencial) and get it stamped regularly each day check out the details on the pilgrim office web site or other threads on this forum.

trecile · Oct 6, 2019

hel&scott said:
If he wants to get a credencial he will need a pilgrims passport and get it stamped regularly each day check out the details on the pilgrim office web site or other threads on this forum.

I think you mean if he wants a Compostela. The credencial is the same as what some call the pilgrim's passport.

hel&scott · Oct 6, 2019

post: 791687 said:
I think you mean if he wants a Compostela. The credencial is the same as what some call the pilgrim's passport.

Yes you are correct, I have fixed this.

dougfitz · Oct 6, 2019

Perhaps the Pilgrim Office would be able to let you know how this might be done to ensure that your friend satisfies all the requirements for the compostela. The distance looks like it would be around 350 km of cycling, so that shouldn't be a problem. But it might be an unusual route and how rigourously that has been recorded might be important to them. Some guidance from them might ease your friends mind if getting the compostela is important recognition for them.

I am not a cyclist, so I don't quite know whether an average of 70 km/day over hilly Galician roads will be workable. I looked at the route that might be involved, and thought a eight day pattern based on 50 km/day might work:

Day 1 & 2: Santiago to Muxia
Day 3: Muxia to Finisterre
Day 4 - 6: Finisterre to Ferrol
Day 7 & 8: Ferrol to Santiago.

This gives the option of taking the time at Muxia, Finisterre and Ferrol to do more than just pass through.

However, like many of these things, much will depend on how hard your friend is prepared to push this, whether they want to do more than just pass through Muxia, Finisterre, A Coruna and Ferrol (rather than visit significant sites there), what accommodation options are available, etc etc.

pilgrimglenn7 · Oct 6, 2019

easygoing said:
If you are talking about the getting the Santiago to Fisterra and Muxia certificate you get that in the visitor center in Fisterra. They are open until 8.

thanks Easy Going much appreciative of your comment he is tracing his familys ancestory and wants me to join him and my wife will drive a support vehicle

pilgrimglenn7 · Oct 6, 2019

hel&scott said:
It depends on how fit your cycling friend is. The region is hilly and roads are narrow, and if he is on a bike then he will be on the road and not the walking track. I assume he has designed this route to add up to at least 200km to qualify for a Compostella on his return to SJC. Not sure if this would be recognised by the pilgrims office and if he turns up late in the day he may find himself out of luck with their new que system.

Probably better if he undertook the trip for its own sake and enjoyed the roller coaster, costal ride. He'll probably pick up both a Muxia and Finisterre certificate if he asks around, and if in luck who knows he may get one in SJC.

I understand that as the inside of the cathedral in SJC is undergoing renovation services there are closed this year. If he wants to get a Compostella certificate he will need a pilgrims passport (crediencial) and get it stamped regularly each day check out the details on the pilgrim office web site or other threads on this forum.

thanks Hel and Scott we are both in training and hoping to do this next year some time he has asked me to design the route based on celtic history and his family ancestory amazingly both our ancestors came from this area and we not worried about the compastela just to enjoy bike riding in the land of our ancestors is what we want getting the credencial is an added bonus does the cathedral re open next year if so when ? thanks mate

pilgrimglenn7 · Oct 6, 2019

dougfitz said:
Perhaps the Pilgrim Office would be able to let you know how this might be done to ensure that your friend satisfies all the requirements for the compostela. The distance looks like it would be around 350 km of cycling, so that shouldn't be a problem. But it might be an unusual route and how rigourously that has been recorded might be important to them. Some guidance from them might ease your friends mind if getting the compostela is important recognition for them.

I am not a cyclist, so I don't quite know whether an average of 70 km/day over hilly Galician roads will be workable. I looked at the route that might be involved, and thought a eight day pattern based on 50 km/day might work:

Day 1 & 2: Santiago to Muxia
Day 3: Muxia to Finisterre
Day 4 - 6: Finisterre to Ferrol
Day 7 & 8: Ferrol to Santiago.

This gives the option of taking the time at Muxia, Finisterre and Ferrol to do more than just pass through.

However, like many of these things, much will depend on how hard your friend is prepared to push this, whether they want to do more than just pass through Muxia, Finisterre, A Coruna and Ferrol (rather than visit significant sites there), what accommodation options are available, etc etc.

thanks Dougfitz much obliged really apprectiate your comment and i see what he says about the 8 day option i know he wants to know what is best to soak in the ancestory of our forefathers and enjoy it so i take on board your 8 days
what would be better though? santiago to ferrol to a coruna to muxia to fisterra to santiago finish or santiago to fisterra to muxia to a coruna to ferrol to santiago?
we will be riding on roads if we cant do walking trails and want to respect those that are walking if we are on their trails by honking horns and being polite to the walking pilgrim

Kanga · Oct 7, 2019

I can't help with the questions you are asking, but @pilgrimglenn7 I really, really, appreciate your kindness to walking pilgrims by using roads instead of the walking trails! I would buy you a beer - well a case! for this. Not that I am being exclusivist about the trail, but pedestrians and cyclists are not a good mix.

I hope you find lots of quiet secondary roads to enjoy.

trecile · Oct 7, 2019

You should post your question in the Biking the Camino subforum

https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/forums/biking-the-camino.24/

hel&scott · Oct 7, 2019

pilgrimglenn7 said:
does the cathedral re open next year if so when ? thanks mate

I am no expert but it's important to note that while services have been moved during the renovations and the botafumeiro is not swinging, the cathedral is still open for people to view. They are expecting it to be finished sometime in 2020, no fixed date and dont be surprised if it's late, but they are planning on making sure it is open before holy year kicks off in 2021.

https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/cathedral-restoration-botafumeiro.64171/#post-780104

Pelegrin · Oct 7, 2019

An important thing here is to find quiet secondary roads between Coruña and Ferrol.

pilgrimglenn7 · Oct 8, 2019

Kanga said:
I can't help with the questions you are asking, but @pilgrimglenn7 I really, really, appreciate your kindness to walking pilgrims by using roads instead of the walking trails! I would buy you a beer - well a case! for this. Not that I am being exclusivist about the trail, but pedestrians and cyclists are not a good mix.

I hope you find lots of quiet secondary roads to enjoy.

thanks Kanga not a problem mate cobber how about a Ginger Beer from Bundaberg we both would love to walk these caminos but we have to consider 2 things time and our health.
Feel free to ask me anything

pilgrimglenn7 · Oct 8, 2019

sorry that was not just sunday to thursday from santiago in the 1st week but both weeks leave on a sunday and finish one part back in santiago and 2nd part start again on the sunday and finish on the 2nd week of thursday so it be 10 days riding total

pilgrimglenn7 · Oct 8, 2019

hel&scott said:
I am no expert but it's important to note that while services have been moved during the renovations and the botafumeiro is not swinging, the cathedral is still open for people to view. They are expecting it to be finished sometime in 2020, no fixed date and dont be surprised if it's late, but they are planning on making sure it is open before holy year kicks off in 2021.

https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/cathedral-restoration-botafumeiro.64171/#post-780104

thanks so much again mates for your comment and help with our planning

Pelegrin said:
An important thing here is to find quiet secondary roads between Coruña and Ferrol.

thanks mate do you know of any? but do we stick to main road from muxia to a coruna to farool?

pilgrimglenn7 · Oct 8, 2019

trecile said:
You should post your question in the Biking the Camino subforum

https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/forums/biking-the-camino.24/

thanks Trecile just did that in last few minutes thanks mate much obliged

Deleted member 67185 · Oct 8, 2019

pilgrimglenn7 said:
sorry that was not just sunday to thursday from santiago in the 1st week but both weeks leave on a sunday and finish one part back in santiago and 2nd part start again on the sunday and finish on the 2nd week of thursday so it be 10 days riding total

How far can he ride in a day? The total distance is approximately 360 kilometers/224 miles (depending on route variances)

pilgrimglenn7 · Oct 8, 2019

davebugg said:
How far can he ride in a day? The total distance is approximately 360 kilometers/224 miles (depending on route variances)

50-75 kilometres a day but wants to rest 2 days in the 14 and a day off at finish to explore santiago

amancio · Oct 8, 2019

Yes. But I feel dizzy after trying to work out your athletic customized route, I must say.

pilgrimglenn7 · Oct 8, 2019

amancio said:
Yes. But I feel dizzy after trying to work out your athletic customized route, I must say.

how can you be dizzy to us its straightforward to do i used to ride on race day 100 miles to 125 miles or 160-200 kilometres a day and then practice 5 days a week riding 100-160 kilometres a day or 65-100 miles

amancio · Oct 8, 2019

pilgrimglenn7 said:
how can you be dizzy to us its straightforward to do i used to ride on race day 100 miles to 125 miles or 160-200 kilometres a day and then practice 5 days a week riding 100-160 kilometres a day or 65-100 miles

it is not so much the distance as the actual route, a sort of triangle that has nothing to do with a pilgrimage experience to Santiago, you are doing 2 caminos plus an extra stretch in between, I see it an odd way to customize your route to existing signposted routes. In any case, Buen Camino!

Pelegrin · Oct 8, 2019

According to the map In Coruña - Ferrol you could avoid the main road trough Elviña- Oleiros - Sada-Ponte do Porco and do the Camiño Ingles in reverse to Ferrol but I haven't done it.

pilgrimglenn7 · Oct 9, 2019

Pelegrin said:
According to the map In Coruña - Ferrol you could avoid the main road trough Elviña- Oleiros - Sada-Ponte do Porco and do the Camiño Ingles in reverse to Ferrol but I haven't done it.

thanks so much for your help mate it is very much appreciated which caminos have you done?

Pelegrin · Oct 9, 2019

pilgrimglenn7 said:
thanks so much for your help mate it is very much appreciated which caminos have you done?

Always on foot:
- Primitivo
- SJPP - Logroño
- Ingles
- Madrid - Valsain
- Portugues from Tui
- Santiago - Fisterra (last week )

pilgrimglenn7 · Oct 9, 2019

Pelegrin said:
Always on foot:
- Primitivo
- SJPP - Logroño
- Ingles
- Madrid - Valsain
- Portugues from Tui
- Santiago - Fisterra (last week )

well done mate congratulations how did you enjoy it did u see much celtic history"

Pelegrin · Oct 9, 2019

pilgrimglenn7 said:
well done mate congratulations how did you enjoy it did u see much celtic history"

Well, my Camino CV is still quite modest (less than 1000 kms). There are here quite a few members here with several thousands kms on their legs..

In relation to Celtic history on my Caminos, the castro in Castro (C. Primitivo) that is still in Asturias but in the Galaic zone.
In toponymy:
-River Tambre (Inglés and SdC -Fisterra) with Tam=dark, like rivers Thames and Tamar in England.
- Dumbria (SdC-Fisterra) with Dum=forthill, like Dundalk, Dundee, Dunquerque.
- Betanzos (C. Ingles) (old Brigantium) like godess Brigantia and the Brigantes tribe in England
- Lugo (C. Primitivo) form god Lug?? (in discussion).
- Myself . I am from 15 Kms from Betanzos and according to DNA analysis, I have haplogroup R-P312 (father line) origin Celt.
On your trip from Fisterra to Ferrol you pass the supposedly more Celtic area in Galicia.
- Pais de Bergantiños (from Brigantinos) with capital in Carballo and the Arco Artabrorum (from Coruña to Ferrol).

Buen Camino, Bo Camiño.

pilgrimglenn7 · Oct 11, 2019

Pelegrin said:
Well, my Camino CV is still quite modest (less than 1000 kms). There are here quite a few members here with several thousands kms on their legs..

In relation to Celtic history on my Caminos, the castro in Castro (C. Primitivo) that is still in Asturias but in the Galaic zone.
In toponymy:
-River Tambre (Inglés and SdC -Fisterra) with Tam=dark, like rivers Thames and Tamar in England.
- Dumbria (SdC-Fisterra) with Dum=forthill, like Dundalk, Dundee, Dunquerque.
- Betanzos (C. Ingles) (old Brigantium) like godess Brigantia and the Brigantes tribe in England
- Lugo (C. Primitivo) form god Lug?? (in discussion).
- Myself . I am from 15 Kms from Betanzos and according to DNA analysis, I have haplogroup R-P312 (father line) origin Celt.
On your trip from Fisterra to Ferrol you pass the supposedly more Celtic area in Galicia.
- Pais de Bergantiños (from Brigantinos) with capital in Carballo and the Arco Artabrorum (from Coruña to Ferrol).

Buen Camino, Bo Camiño.

thanks so much mate really appreciate what u are sharing with me i had a saliva test and i have german (my mothers mother was german) and french mmm didnt know that until the test and italion (my late fathers grand father was italion ) and where iberian peninsuala of spain where these walks were took up 35 % of my ancestory and about 55 % was english scottish and only about 4 % german and italion

I have always wanted to see where my forefathers lived and always loved stories about the Christian Celtic Church and its Monks such as Patrick, Columba Finnan, Brendan, Columbanus, Gallus, aidan and brigid or as known as brigit and kevin and see their lands I been to some sites in ireland and scotland and england and northern ireland now i want to see and learn more

God bless from Glenn

Pelegrin · Oct 11, 2019

In Galicia appart from the Celts, also settled Mediterranean and Germanic (Suabians) people. On my SdC -Fisterra I saw the name of a village called Suevos.

michael · Oct 12, 2019

What route planners have you looked at and are you riding off road on road or mixed?
Had a cursory search and found komoot and OSM.
I have used OSM maps on my etrex and I think they are routable in Garmin Basecamp.
Dont know anything about komoot but it looks like it might help.
Also have a look on strava to see if there are any routes already marked that you could join together.

woofer · Oct 12, 2019

hel&scott said:
It depends on how fit your cycling friend is. The region is hilly and roads are narrow, and if he is on a bike then he will be on the road and not the walking track. I assume he has designed this route to add up to at least 200km to qualify for a Compostella on his return to SJC. Not sure if this would be recognised by the pilgrims office and if he turns up late in the day he may find himself out of luck with their new que system.

Probably better if he undertook the trip for its own sake and enjoyed the roller coaster, costal ride. He'll probably pick up both a Muxia and Finisterre certificate if he asks around, and if in luck who knows he may get one in SJC.

I understand that as the inside of the cathedral in SJC is undergoing renovation services there are closed this year. If he wants to get a Compostella certificate he will need a pilgrims passport (crediencial) and get it stamped regularly each day check out the details on the pilgrim office web site or other threads on this forum.

Hi. Having walked the 200 km Santiago - Fisterra - Muxia - Santiago I can tell you that the authorities will NOT let you count any stage starting in Santiago ! Your friend will have to start his distance calculation from Negreiro and say he/she started there. I'm assuming that trip is doable by bike in 5 days and that 2 sellos a day will be a requirement. If the timetable of 5 days is totally rigid the Pilgrim Mass might be difficult to reach in time. All the best !

Nezabudka · Apr 21, 2024

Hi all, At this stage looks like we are going to finish in SdC on Friday, our flight home is only Monday night. The weather forecast doesnt look to be promising - showers over the whole weekend...

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