For 2024 Pilgrims: €50,- donation = 1 year with no ads on the forum + 90% off any 2024 Guide. More here. (Discount code sent to you by Private Message after your donation) |
---|
Objects with a sharp point or sharp edge:
This would seem to permit the very small Swiss Army knives (www.amazon.com/Victorinox-Swiss-Classic-Pocket-Knife/dp/B00004YVB2/). Also, I cannot find anything that would explicitly prohibit walking sticks.objects with a sharp point or sharp edge capable of being used to cause serious injury, including:
- items designed for chopping, such as axes, hatchets and cleavers,
- ice axes and ice picks, — razor blades, — box cutters,
- knives with blades of more than 6 cm,
- scissors with blades of more than 6 cm as measured from the fulcrum,
- martial arts equipment with a sharp point or sharp edge,
- swords and sabres;
The English and the Portuguese text are quoted from current EU law: Commission Implementing Regulation (EU) 2015/1998 and Regulamento de Execução (UE) 2015/1998.and best I can tell is the airline shows a direct translation of ANAC
I wonder if, once Britain has self-exiled herself from the rest of Western Civilisation, I can "take back control" and rid myself of these irritating EU rules and board a plane proudly carrying my hiking pole, throwing stars and butterfly knife . . . probably notThe English and the Portuguese text are quoted from current EU law: Commission Implementing Regulation (EU) 2015/1998 and Regulamento de Execução (UE) 2015/1998.
Not sure if this will work but this link should give you the two language versions side by side: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-con...2705321&uri=CELEX:02015R1998-20190201&from=EN. The list is in Attachment 4-B / Apêndice 4-B. These are consolidated versions which makes easy reading.
I hope we've now exhausted the topic because experience has shown that it can easily get controversial or seriously confusing and confused.
I assume by your list under your avatar that you were blocked with poles in MAD in 2015?I was not able to take them from DFW to MAD. Also, my poles were not allowed from MAD to Lisbon either.
Buen Camino,
Texasguy
I can answer your question for myself, not for others: it saves time and it avoids that your backpack gets lost or delayed. This is perhaps more interesting for people on short haul flights and short Camino walks than for others. In my experience and those of my companions, with Iberia within Europe on flights with a short connection time in Madrid or Barcelona for example, it is not unusual that you make the connection but your backpack doesn’t. Iberia will deliver it, of course, but with a delay of many hours or even days. Time that you’d rather spend walking than waiting.If there is a possibility that your stuff may be confiscated when trying to board your flight then why take the risk? It is extremely unlikely that you would need your pocket knife or walking poles on your flight anyway!!!
It's nice to exchange views; it's a major component of this forum. However, this thread is mainly about legalities and practicalities of taking stuff with you into the cabin on flights within the EU and more precisely those starting from Madrid airport and ending in Spain or in Portugal, not about personal preferences within these legal and practical frameworks.If i was ... i am sure i could
Me too, and I live in France!I wonder if, once Britain has self-exiled herself from the rest of Western Civilisation, I can "take back control" and rid myself of these irritating EU rules and board a plane proudly carrying my hiking pole, throwing stars and butterfly knife . . . probably not
15 days to go and I cease to be a European- =
At the risk of sounding like a broken record: short-haul flights; inner-EU; only cabin luggage (backpack); higher cost if opting for ticket that includes checked luggage.i would prefer to pack in with my checked luggage
Ah yes, DFW, my wife had this weapon of mass destruction confiscated.
View attachment 68708
I guess that happened when you returned home and not when you changed planes in Madrid to fly to another airport in Spain and Portugal? Passengers of flights to the United States have their own security lanes/areas with different rules about what is allowed in cabin luggage.I totally forgot to put mine in my checked bag and left it in my backpack. It was found when I went through security in Madrid and they gave me the option of checking it in or mailing it (my 1 bag with our poles and some stuff had been checked in already) or tossing it away. Unfortunately I had to toss it. Which really sucked because I got it as a wedding present from husband 30 years ago
It was in Madrid going back to the US.I guess that happened when you returned home and not when you changed planes in Madrid to fly to another airport in Spain and Portugal? Passengers of flights to the United States have their own security lanes/areas with different rules about what is allowed in cabin luggage.
You cannot rely on being able to take your poles on board, nor your little knife. The final say is always the security check at the airport and they have a lot of leeway in deciding whether or not something could potentially be hazardous or used as a weapon. Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't, but trying to argue semantics with a security person is a waste of time and can potentially get you into quite a lot of trouble.According to the TAP airline website (www.flytap.com/en-us/baggage/dangerous-goods), the following are prohibited items in carry on:
This would seem to permit the very small Swiss Army knives (www.amazon.com/Victorinox-Swiss-Classic-Pocket-Knife/dp/B00004YVB2/). Also, I cannot find anything that would explicitly prohibit walking sticks.
If boarding my TAP flight to Lisboa from T2 Madrid, can I really keep those in carry on, or am I being overly optimistic? I KNOW the TSA won't permit them carry on when boarding in the US to Madrid, but it would be nice not to have to check bags when going to Lisbon.
I have never had a problem in the US carrying on hiking poles. I am sure I have gone in or out of Boston with them. I don’t think the problem is US TSA, I think the problem is in Spain. If I were just flying into Madrid and getting on a train or bus, I would carry on my poles. But since I am going to transfer to a flight from Madrid to Alicante, and since several people I know have not been able to get their poles through Madrid security, I will very reluctantly check my poles this year (first time in probably 12 years).Anyone have experience with carry-on trekking poles when starting from Boston?
Neither my spouse nor I have had any problems with trekking poles in our carry-on packs in Canada (Fredericton or Toronto) or Madrid but this time I depart from Boston.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?