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Sorry, I didn't make it clear at all. I want to know if anyone has a way of attaching the z-poles to the outside when folded. Lots of tight spaces and scrambles up mountain trails.
Thanks, though, Davebugg
Yeah. You're right. To be honest, since I came back, I haven't tried anything 'in practice' yet. I'll have a go. Thanks for your help. I just thought I might have been missing something obvious and being a bit twp! Ha !
Thanks c clearly. Will give it a go.
I use the Osprey Kestrel. There is an option of attaching a stuffbag here, horizontally.
I use my original LEKI cylinder bag ... (Leki Vario micro Ti)
inside the folded sticks have a basic strong, elastic band...
That means I have to take off my rucksack to get to them, of course, but I use this option when entering a train or do not want to lose sight of them for a longer period..
Have never lost them while walking. When tightened properly, they will stay there...
- loose straps tied in a square knot to keep them from snagging in benches and seats or whatever...
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ps. when traveling in the hold, sticks are in vertical pockets on either side of sack, ( here. Osprey Kestrel 48 liter)gets packed first and then rest of luggage go in. In this manner they cannot possibly go missing, but the sack gets properly stuffed, of course.... Mark your poles and use reflective tape. in this way you are visual in night and mist and you personalize your poles so they are mot mistakenly removed.....
Bungee cords?Does anyone have a method of attaching these z-poles to the outside of a pack (edited), when FOLDED? Not including in side pockets and not including inside the pack. I've looked online and can't find anyone who's managed this. Also, can't see anything on YouTube.
Very similar to this type. https://trekandmountain.com/2020/01...series-micro-vario-carbon-trekking-poles-195/
In this article it mentions that it's a disadvantage of them. I trekked through northern Norway last year with them taking up the room in an Osprey Xenith side mesh pocket. I'd rather free that up.
Thanks in advance.
G
I'm looking at many packs, including lightweight frameless packs.
Hi, Use treking pole specific attaching equipment like this to attach them folded up to your pack loops or daisy chain or straps: https://www.gossamergear.com/collections/trekking-poles/products/lightrek-pack-bungee-attachmentDoes anyone have a method of attaching these z-poles to the outside of a pack (edited), when FOLDED? Not including in side pockets and not including inside the pack. I've looked online and can't find anyone who's managed this. Also, can't see anything on YouTube.
Very similar to this type. https://trekandmountain.com/2020/01...series-micro-vario-carbon-trekking-poles-195/
In this article it mentions that it's a disadvantage of them. I trekked through northern Norway last year with them taking up the room in an Osprey Xenith side mesh pocket. I'd rather free that up.
Thanks in advance.
G
Thanks Dandabika.Hi, Use treking pole specific attaching equipment like this to attach them folded up to your pack loops or daisy chain or straps: https://www.gossamergear.com/collections/trekking-poles/products/lightrek-pack-bungee-attachment
Framelss is the lightest way to go, but only if you keep your weight down to less than 8 kilos. Using a lightweight pack with a mesh to keep it off your back is way more comfortable and keeps you from overheating and sweating. Problem with the Compostelle and Camino routes is many of the villages have little or no stores to restock your food supplies. Most of the villages also no longer have restaurants plus everything closes down over weekends making food very scarce; so that means you have to carry a minimum of 5 full meals in your pack roughly 60 percent of the time. The food is what will bump up your total pack weight to 11 or 12 kilos. Frameless packs are very uncomfortable at that weight level. I carried my stuff in a frameless pack on a trek from southern Mexico all the way to Nicaragua many years ago and also the Serengeti. I learned a painful lesson about weight and frameless packs then. Puy-en-Velay is a great place to start either the GR65 or GR70. I walked both of those plus the Camino Del Norte, Camino Primitivo and part of Camino Frances.Frameless will be of I get my kit plus simple camera down to 8 to 10Kg excluding pack weight, which I can if I'm economical and don't go to northern Scandinavia as late as I did last year. This would be for next year anyway. However, my main preference for using frameless would be for France, Spain or Slovenia; Trips I have in mind. I've been looking at mostly American brandsfor that. Mountain Laurel Designs (such as the Exodus at 450g), Gossamer Gear, Hyperlight. There're a couple of European options too.
Also, if I can find a decent one I can decide on, a possible foldable/rollable frameless for bikepacking in France. Similar to Zpacks Nemo perhaps. In that case my pack weight will be minimal for day/2 day hikes.
I do use a lightweight tent or tarp-style tent sometimes, but sometimes use a simple tarp. It depends on where and when.
As for when I do part of the Camino trails, pfrobably from Puy at first, I've not come to any decisions yet and I'm looking here for advice really.
I talk too much. I'll shut up now.
Frameless will be of I get my kit plus simple camera down to 8 to 10Kg excluding pack weight,
When we travelled from Toronto to Lisbon via Air Canada, we packed our folding poles (like the ones mentioned in your post) inside our backpacks and carried the backpacks in carry on. This way they don't get caught on anything and there are no visible hazards for security to be concerned about. We have 36 litre Osprey packs so had lots of room. While walking the camino, we strapped them to the outside of our packs with the straps that are for that purpose.Does anyone have a method of attaching these z-poles to the outside of a pack (edited), when FOLDED? Not including in side pockets and not including inside the pack. I've looked online and can't find anyone who's managed this. Also, can't see anything on YouTube.
Very similar to this type. https://trekandmountain.com/2020/01...series-micro-vario-carbon-trekking-poles-195/
In this article it mentions that it's a disadvantage of them. I trekked through northern Norway last year with them taking up the room in an Osprey Xenith side mesh pocket. I'd rather free that up.
Thanks in advance.
G
I've used the Osprey Levity 45 and the Gossamer Gorilla 40. The Osprey is better if the weather is humid or hot. Problem with packs of higher volume is to begin with, they are heavier and when you load them up to the top the top weight throws your balance off a lot more than lower volume packs. The larger packs also wiggle a bit more making more friction on your shoulder and hip straps. After a few hundred kilometers you'll be sorry you got the larger bag with chafing in different places on your shoulders, hips, and lower back plus the chafing wears down your clothes faster. Go smaller and if need be, get a lightweight fanny pack worn to your front. That way the shifting is lessened and the weight is lowered, plus you can keep the essential camera gear handy. I used a small neoprene bag and carabiner hung off my hip belt; worked like a charm.Excellent advice. Thanks. If I go framed, what size and brand of pack do you use as a lightweight framed pack these days? I was looking at the Talon (44?) for France, etc., but for colder climes, such as my planned return trip to Lofoten Islands with proper camera gear, I was thinking the Osprey Exos 58 looks a reasonable and comfortable compromise to my previously very large pack (I was in Lofoten plus journeyed down to the Camargue, so 2 weather condition packing). I'm a landscape semi-pro photographer, so a certain amount of essential-to-me camera gear is important to me. For France I can go lighter in most places and with less winter gear and also less camera gear.
So, when on the Camino from, for example Puy-en-Velay, what pack would you recommend with capacity for either tarp or very light tarp-type tent?
I guess it would be different again for the GR10 French Pyrenees route another I'm considering doing now I'm retired but still not too old. Lofoten was a good rehearsal for that. LOL!
I was thinking the Osprey Exos 58 looks a reasonable and comfortable compromise to my previously very large pack
I've used the Osprey Levity 45 and the Gossamer Gorilla 40. The Osprey is better if the weather is humid or hot. Problem with packs of higher volume is to begin with, they are heavier and when you load them up to the top the top weight throws your balance off a lot more than lower volume packs. ....................
Thanks both. There's a lot here to absorb and consider. And all of it useful.
Just so that you may gulp! and probably laugh at my expense (no problem btw), you can perhaps understand where I'm coming from in wanting to go lighter on this next cold-weather ONLY mountain trekking trip in Nordland when I tell you that, on the Lofoten Islands and then afterwards trekking down through Scandinavia (Noway, Sweden, Denmark and n. Germany), and ultimately reaching Bern and then on to the Camargue, I was packing a 105L Osprey Xenith, inluding base tent, camera and electronics and tarp for summit attempts with smaller collapsible daypack. Even though I needed to pack cold and warm weather gear for dual climate-type destinations (sub-zero Lofoten, 32'C Camargue), it was far too much weight to make it 100% comfortable. I'm 5'10". It was a 3 month solo trip and 22Kg including 2.7Kg Xenith.
Yes. A good workout. Ha! Still an utterly amazing post-retirement 3 months though.
Fabulous davebugg. Solid sensible advice. Thankyou. I've read this through but will send it to my PC for printing out to read and absorb properly at my leisure later; It's not as if I don't have time on my hands at the moment stuck at home.Thankyou for taking so much time and effort. If I need to pm you I will take up your offer if that's still okay. Thanks.
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