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Hi, it took me about 2 till 2.5 hours to the albergue Orisson and from Orrisson to Roncesvalles about 4.5 hours . Wish you well and a Buen Camino, Peter.To all you seasoned camino pilgrims out theremy question is - how long did it take you to do the 25 km and how hard is the decline . We are arriving on the 27 June early afternoon and are a little short of time to make it all the way to Santiago - which we really really want to do - so to get going would be brilliant. I am trying to book into orrison (waiting on reply) but wondering what our options are if we don't get in. We are keen fell walkers and determined hehe but don't want to take silly risks - so any experience would be very helpful
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Hi Butterfly,my first trip over the Pyrenees from SJPDP to Roncesvalles.took me between 6-8 hours stopping now and then for breaks, its about 8 miles up then 8 miles down,as you are fell walkers you should be ok, just have stops and take it easy going down into Roncesvalles,and leave early on the 28 June about 6-7 am, but if you get a place in Orrison all well and good,I will be leaving SJPDP on the 2 July so you should be well in front of me,its better to do it in one hit,than pussy footing about up and down,round and round,here and there,playing taxi fares etc,I will be just turned 70 when I go,and I am going over in one hit,so if an old timer like me can,I am sure you both will make it,good luck,,,To all you seasoned camino pilgrims out theremy question is - how long did it take you to do the 25 km and how hard is the decline . We are arriving on the 27 June early afternoon and are a little short of time to make it all the way to Santiago - which we really really want to do - so to get going would be brilliant. I am trying to book into orrison (waiting on reply) but wondering what our options are if we don't get in. We are keen fell walkers and determined hehe but don't want to take silly risks - so any experience would be very helpful
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To all you seasoned camino pilgrims out theremy question is - how long did it take you to do the 25 km and how hard is the decline . We are arriving on the 27 June early afternoon and are a little short of time to make it all the way to Santiago - which we really really want to do - so to get going would be brilliant. I am trying to book into orrison (waiting on reply) but wondering what our options are if we don't get in. We are keen fell walkers and determined hehe but don't want to take silly risks - so any experience would be very helpful
You would be amongst good friends of ours suggesting a shorter trip and thinking we will probably not be able to do it BUT we are thinking we shall give it our best shotIf you can't get into Orrison, try walking via Val Carlos. Since you are pressed for time why not start in Pamplona and save yourself some blisters.
thats totally brilliant thanks Katharina - we did 14 miles (about 22 1/2 ) the other day in 4 1/2 hours but that was flat and we had a little lunch break in that - i think i'll need to take jam (james my son) on an uphill quest and time usI like this. I think it is a good assessment for you, Butterfly. Start early, not later than 8am or earlier if you can and feel like it. Buy all food and drink in the evening before the day, do not waste a minute with shopping in the morning.
There are no technical difficulties, the paths are wide, a lot is on roads where cars can and do drive. It's 1200 m over 20 km up and 500 m over 5 km down. With standard times (1h for 300 m up, 1h for 500 m down, 4km/h for flat road) it works out to 7h up, 1,5h down plus a good hour rest. Rough guidance only, of course.
Skip it altogether if the weather is bad. It will just be like a really long foggy and soggy day back home.
hi freespirit, just thought i say - i've got 5 kids and kid number 2 which is son number 1 (my oldest is a girl) also calls himself freespirit and though i think it would be rather nice to chat i sure hope you don't catch us up heheHi Butterfly,my first trip over the Pyrenees from SJPDP to Roncesvalles.took me between 6-8 hours stopping now and then for breaks, its about 8 miles up then 8 miles down,as you are fell walkers you should be ok, just have stops and take it easy going down into Roncesvalles,and leave early on the 28 June about 6-7 am, but if you get a place in Orrison all well and good,I will be leaving SJPDP on the 2 July so you should be well in front of me,its better to do it in one hit,than pussy footing about up and down,round and round,here and there,playing taxi fares etc,I will be just turned 70 when I go,and I am going over in one hit,so if an old timer like me can,I am sure you both will make it,good luck,,,
You would be amongst good friends of ours suggesting a shorter trip and thinking we will probably not be able to do it BUT we are thinking we shall give it our best shotthis trip is my sons idea - he saw the movie "the way" in school and it rather impressed upon him and when it came to us having a mother / son trip because he will just have finished his secondary school education (he's almost 17) - which would normally be 3/4 days - he said what he really really really wanted to do is the Camino de Santiago - and my husband and i's thinking is - now is the time - there may not be another.
Yes I agree definetly a danger and we must watch out for that for sure. My thinking is - I can walk 7 miles ( which is just over 11 km) in 2 hours on the flat - so the lose plan is - rise and shine early walk a couple of hours - nice little break, walk 2 more hours - lunch and siesta or maybe swimming or looking a pretty things and walk a couple more hourse into the evening as it gets coolerOh I think you'll be able to do it ... its just whether or not you will enjoy it or if it simply becomes a forced march on a schedule as seems to happen to a lot of people due to time pressure.
Yes we've got some but not used them yet - to be done in the next 3 weeksand may I suggest you become proficient with trekking poles before beginning. They really help with balance and stress on the knees on long downhills.
People do that? Walk up, then walk or taxi back down, and then taxi back up again?And if you can't get into Orisson, simply book a second night in SJPP.
You can either walk up to Orisson, then walk back down or take a taxi.
Next morning, share a taxi back up to Orisson and begin walking.
There will be plenty of others doing the same.
Are you being facetious? Despite thePeople do that? Walk up, then walk or taxi back down, and then taxi back up again?
People do that? Walk up, then walk or taxi back down, and then taxi back up again?
thank you - i am very pleased that this is now a option and we won't be tempted to do to much right at the beginningI recommend you do it in 2 parts…..stopping at Orisson. Don't push or hurt yourself because you will have a long road ahead of you……so take it easy and enjoy this incredible experience.
Hi again Butterfly, dont think I will catch you both up as I will be taking it slow till Pamplona, as I will be wanting to see the Bull run,but I wont be running with any wild Bulls this time round.hi freespirit, just thought i say - i've got 5 kids and kid number 2 which is son number 1 (my oldest is a girl) also calls himself freespirit and though i think it would be rather nice to chat i sure hope you don't catch us up hehe
It just seems counterproductive.Yes, every dayIt's much easier coming back down than going up, and if there's no lodging at Orisson it is a good option.
Hi butterfly, you have to make your own decision on this at the end of the day. I' have been a hill walker for some time in Ireland. I left St Jean yesterday at 06.50 with my daughter Emma.It was raining heavy and I found it a little tough. I carried Emma s pack as well as my own for a while as I could see she was under pressure. When we got to Orrison I knew it was time to stop or else today would have been a disaster. We got a taxi from there to Roncesvalles. I am glad I did this as it made today all the more enjoyable even when it rained heavy for the first couple of hours. The most important thing here is to know your limits. Don't mind what other people say but use their experiences as a guide line.To all you seasoned camino pilgrims out theremy question is - how long did it take you to do the 25 km and how hard is the decline . We are arriving on the 27 June early afternoon and are a little short of time to make it all the way to Santiago - which we really really want to do - so to get going would be brilliant. I am trying to book into orrison (waiting on reply) but wondering what our options are if we don't get in. We are keen fell walkers and determined hehe but don't want to take silly risks - so any experience would be very helpful
Wow so much rain in June and I totally agree - I'm afraid we are aiming to walk every step of the way and I don't think we'd want to go back on ourselves either - however I think it's probably a bit like a birth plan - a bit idealistic and then having to make the best choice possible when facing the obsticals for everyone involved , as you obviously haveHi butterfly, you have to make your own decision on this at the end of the day. I' have been a hill walker for some time in Ireland. I left St Jean yesterday at 06.50 with my daughter Emma.It was raining heavy and I found it a little tough. I carried Emma s pack as well as my own for a while as I could see she was under pressure. When we got to Orrison I knew it was time to stop or else today would have been a disaster. We got a taxi from there to Roncesvalles. I am glad I did this as it made today all the more enjoyable even when it rained heavy for the first couple of hours. The most important thing here is to know your limits. Don't mind what other people say but use their experiences as a guide line.
Mark, I am a bona fide member of the supporters of the Refuge Orisson crowd. I love the view from the terrace and find that it is great place to make the seque into finding yourself and a Camino family, if that is what you are looking for, on the first day out of SJPdP. I drive down there from time to time on a clear day to sip a glass of wine and absorb the spirit of the Pyrenees.It took me about 8 hours or so.
It's not that difficult a walk. Honestly I don't have any recollections of any really difficult stretches. It's like I started walking, and then later in the day I was in Roncesvalles (which I bypassed and stayed in Burguete that night). The overwhelming majority of pilgrims that walk out of SJPdP walk all the way to Roncesvalles the first day. If you are in a bit of a time-frame to complete the Camino, walk all the way to Roncesvalles yourselves. Skip that whole stopping in Orisson bit (yes stockholders in albergue Orisson, I said that).
Mark, I am a bona fide member of the supporters of the Refuge Orisson crowd. I love the view from the terrace and find that it is great place to make the seque into finding yourself and a Camino family, if that is what you are looking for, on the first day out of SJPdP. I drive down there from time to time on a clear day to sip a glass of wine and absorb the spirit of the Pyrenees.
Look for me at Refuge San Anton about 2 weeks after you leave Orisson.might see you there on the 27th as we now have our beds confirmed - though I must say the temptation to walk the whole way and into the night was definitely there and I think we could have made it but with all that was said - I think it might have been a bit to much and not sure that we might not have struggled for the next few days and as we need to keep up our momentum - I'm glad we got booked in
- wooooooo this time in 2 weeks we'll be on our merry way
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