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Hi All.
looking for information about CF I encountered on two different dates.
Length of CF, length between Albergues, length between town a different.
I used:
http://caminoteca.com/attachments/article/123/Albergues_Camino_Francés_2015.pdf
and
http://www.urcamino.com/camino-frances/route
For example, the first city after SJPP, Honto, on first link is 5,6 km and in second 4,9 km.
Caminoteca say it is approximately 790km, and Urcamino giving precisely 818.2 km. It is almost 30km differences, day or two more on the Camino, more money, more time ...........
Which information is correct?
Which information is correct?
Hi, according to the pilgrims office in Santiago the distance from SJPdP to Santiago is 775 km. Take your pick.Hi All.
looking for information about CF I encountered on two different dates.
Length of CF, length between Albergues, length between town a different.
I used:
http://caminoteca.com/attachments/article/123/Albergues_Camino_Francés_2015.pdf
and
http://www.urcamino.com/camino-frances/route
For example, the first city after SJPP, Honto, on first link is 5,6 km and in second 4,9 km.
Caminoteca say it is approximately 790km, and Urcamino giving precisely 818.2 km. It is almost 30km differences, day or two more on the Camino, more money, more time ...........
Which information is correct?
Hi jsalt,I am positive that the new detour through Villalbilla (after Burgos) adds at least one extra kilometre to the day. There are many alternative routes along the camino, so it depends which one you take, for example, will you walk via Villadangos, or will you walk via Villar de Mazarife? Do you include the fabulous path through the forests to Samos, or take the shorter route via San Xil? Jill
Hi, according to the pilgrims office in Santiago the distance from SJPdP to Santiago is 775 km. Take your pick.
Wish you well and a Buen Camino, Peter.
For me personal, it doesn't matter how many km. it is. We begin at one point and we finish at an other.Hi Peter,
well, we have 818,2, then approximately 790km, and now 775km. More less and less
when someone have 65+ he looks a little differentI know exactly how long
answer:-twice the distance from the center to one end
I think there are some folks walking that have an app that tracks the distance they walk using either a GPs or there phone can't remember which, another good example how distances would be different for each person. I may walk to more beer dispensing establishments than say mountaingoat1999 who simply drinks tea, but you get the idea. But your strait line theory is worth a discussion over a pint.I'd go with 800 km ... a nice round number.
I get 596.39 using straight line on google earth. So thats the minimum distance; you can't get shorter than a straight line. (I'm not sure if Google earth gives great circle distance or if its based on flat earth assumptions)
There is no way to figure it out exactly. If you use map coordinates you fail to account for slope. Some measures may account for slope according to point to point elevation difference and disregarding the effect of up and down in between. etc.
Add to that the effect of continents shifting and grass growing ... so its not possible to replicate one measurement even using the same standard assumptions.
Hi All.
looking for information about CF I encountered on two different dates.
Length of CF, length between Albergues, length between town a different.
I used:
http://caminoteca.com/attachments/article/123/Albergues_Camino_Francés_2015.pdf
and
http://www.urcamino.com/camino-frances/route
For example, the first city after SJPP, Honto, on first link is 5,6 km and in second 4,9 km.
Caminoteca say it is approximately 790km, and Urcamino giving precisely 818.2 km. It is almost 30km differences, day or two more on the Camino, more money, more time ...........
Which information is correct?
If 500 meters a day, here and there, is going to make a difference I would think about the Camino twice I'm afraid.when someone have 65+ he looks a little different
That is SOOOOO true!Regardless of actual distance - last 3k of each day takes 5times longer than first 3k of the day!
Wokabaut_Meri, thank you for your good wishes'How long is a piece of string?' comes to mind.
Seriously though, the only way to know the distance which you walked is to have used some type of GPS tracking for the entire route. Understand your frustration but the Camino is an inexact science in many ways so would recommend that you allow +/- an extra few days costings. Always pays to allow for unforeseen events or detours.
Work out your costings on the greater distance i.e. ~800kms to Santiago just to be sure.
Good luck with your planning and Buen Camino!
Do not be afraid Anemone del Camino,If 500 meters a day, here and there, is going to make a difference I would think about the Camino twice I'm afraid.
On the CF you have some 410 albergues to pick from according to Eroski, and 775km, so the total distance being plus or minus 0.5% really won't make a difference. And there are so many other factors that will affect the distance you are able to walk in a day: how agile you are on slippery rock, rain, cold, heat exhaustion, tendinitis, a cold you may catch, people you walk with, the number of coffees you will want to drink on this particular morning.
I'm afraid you will be disapointed if you expect to fit the Camino is precise little boxes.
We started to walk September 20 in SJPP and keep looking different signs about the distances to Santiago. After a while, we learned not to care about them and just keep walking and enjoying what the Camino brings. Everyday we are getting close to Santiago and that is very excited!Hi All.
looking for information about CF I encountered on two different dates.
Length of CF, length between Albergues, length between town a different.
I used:
http://caminoteca.com/attachments/article/123/Albergues_Camino_Francés_2015.pdf
and
http://www.urcamino.com/camino-frances/route
For example, the first city after SJPP, Honto, on first link is 5,6 km and in second 4,9 km.
Caminoteca say it is approximately 790km, and Urcamino giving precisely 818.2 km. It is almost 30km differences, day or two more on the Camino, more money, more time ...........
Which information is correct?
I agree that Brierley has most "correct" distances compared to my Endomondo GPS track recordings. I'm sure that's because his distances are measured from "Albergue" to "Iglesia" etc. and not from Burgos to Hontanas. On some Caminos I got even 25% longer mileage than those in sources and I wondered why a lot. Then I tried to remember distances from end-of-the-village sign to the entrance into next village and there you go... exactly the discrepancy between my GPS track and stated mileage. Some villages (not to mention bigger towns) can be up to 3kms long but we're not Supermen to fly those 3kms, we walk themIf it worries you so much, you should treat yourself to a copy of the John Brierley guide or maps - he gives a true distance of 798km from SJPP to SdC and each of the suggested daily segments is then broken down into typically six or eight smaller distances - and from my experience of walking the Camino Frances Ieven these smaller distances correlated well with the time it took me to walker tgere intermediates distances
He also adjusts the daily distances to allow for any climbing involved as well as splitting the distances into paths, quiet roads and main roads - anyone who has gone to this much trouble deseordingsrves to be trusted in my opinion
I did the Camino in 2011 with my partner and we've just finished it again a few days ago, with a group. Some in the group used GPS / iPhones etc and commented that the daily measurements provided by guides were quite often less than the iPhone. And then sometimes accomodation is around the block from the Camino. I agree that if an extra 500 metres or 2 kms is going to influence your Camino, then you need to plan for that, but in our recent Camino, my partner did it as a charity fundraiser for Younger Onset Dementia as he was diagnosed with it in his 50's and in that case, some people donated money according to the kilometres that he walked. So we rounded it.I agree that Brierley has most "correct" distances compared to my Endomondo GPS track recordings. I'm sure that's because his distances are measured from "Albergue" to "Iglesia" etc. and not from Burgos to Hontanas. On some Caminos I got even 25% longer mileage than those in sources and I wondered why a lot. Then I tried to remember distances from end-of-the-village sign to the entrance into next village and there you go... exactly the discrepancy between my GPS track and stated mileage. Some villages (not to mention bigger towns) can be up to 3kms long but we're not Supermen to fly those 3kms, we walk themAnd on a Camino which is 800kms or more in lenght there you can have A LOT of those villages and towns.
Nevertheless, I don't care very much about that it's just that on some less walked, less populated and therefore quite solitary Caminos you could have problems with planning and especially with water shortage in higher temperatures... Because of this I found incorrect mileage very irresponsible to publish anywhere, either on the web or in published guidebook.
All these different figures make me wonder about the correctness of the famous "Santiago de Compostela 790kms" sign as you leave Ronscevalles. All too complicated for me I'm afraid and I certainly don't understand why the Pilgrim's Office in SJPDP would be quoting 775kms to SDC if in fact the Ronscevalles sign (790km) is correct. But does it really matter? I think I'll go along quite happily with the "about 800km" calculation. Put simply it's a long way whichever calculation you use.
That's not what is concernant the OP, it's the daily planning to make it to Santiago in perfect timing.Does it really matter? SJPP is where it is. SdC is where it is. Don't think of it as walking 800km or whatever just think of that day's walk and enjoy it the uttermost
"Caminoteca say it is approximately 790km, and Urcamino giving precisely 818.2 km. It is almost 30km differences, day or two more on the Camino, more money, more time ...........
Which information is correct?"
Just saying . . .
I don't know but it's like daylight savings fading the furniture; the track is definitely longer after a vino with lunch.
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