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I have just begun to research the Le Puy route to St Jean and am gaining a vague understanding of the main towns along the way. As I have plenty of time and will be stopping overnight very frequently I wonder what the distances are between places to stay. [My walk to Santiago/Finisterre/Muxia took 62 walking days] I will buy the MiamMiamDoDo guide in Le Puy, May 2016, meanwhile appreciate any information regarding this question.
Thanks for your prompt reply. The advice to buy the guide now is welcome, and something I have considered prior to this. I love staying in smaller places and often stay 2 nights. CheersI think the longest you can expect is 20km.
The accommodation is wonderful ,very restful with great food.
You will have a beautiful walk and the villages are worth a stay.
Take the Cele' variant.
I would buy an old MMDD Avenelite this year and play with the distances.
Bon Chemin next year.
Thanks for your reply and for the link too. I really want to be able to walk short distances some days, but hadn't come across any resource that reassured me that there is accommodation available in the smaller places. 'Godesalco' gives very good information but does not cover where to find accommodation that allows me to cover a short distance most days. Or perhaps I just didn't find it. By short, I mean 12kms or so. I will get a copy of Miam Miam Dodo sooner than planned as advised by 'Thornley' above.You can look at the basics here:
http://www.godesalco.com/plan/podense
When walking, the Miam Miam Dodo has more specifics and phone numbers. Everyone else makes reservations a day or two ahead, so you will want to as well!
Godesalco is accurate about accommodations on the route. One advantage of MMD is that it shows off-route accommodations as well. When Godesalco shows a long day, there is a long day!!'Godesalco' gives very good information but does not cover where to find accommodation that allows me to cover a short distance most days. Or perhaps I just didn't find it. By short, I mean 12kms or so. I will get a copy of Miam Miam Dodo sooner than planned as advised by 'Thornley' above.
That site seems to have the locations that have a web site and email. MMD would add places that still just operate with telephone (the normal French way of making reservations).
Do you need to speak French on this route?Thanks for your prompt reply. The advice to buy the guide now is welcome, and something I have considered prior to this. I love staying in smaller places and often stay 2 nights. Cheers
No. A smile and hand gestures work. Fewer of your fellow pilgrims will speak English. You can get your host to call ahead for the next night's accommodations.Do you need to speak French on this route?
Do you need to speak French on this route?
Thanks for your reply and for the link too. I really want to be able to walk short distances some days, but hadn't come across any resource that reassured me that there is accommodation available in the smaller places. 'Godesalco' gives very good information but does not cover where to find accommodation that allows me to cover a short distance most days. Or perhaps I just didn't find it. By short, I mean 12kms or so. I will get a copy of Miam Miam Dodo sooner than planned as advised by 'Thornley' above.
Hi there Thornley. Thanks so much for doing that for me (and for others planning a very slow journey!), much appreciated. I have the luxury of time so will take as many days as it takes to reach St Jean, taking detours and the extra night here and there. I realize that it is more difficult for those with restricted time and finances and I met so many on the Camino Frances who were amazed as my answers to the usual questions of: "When/where did you start the camino?" and "Where did you start from today?" By the way my shortest walk was 7 km, the longest 26km, but I much prefer to keep around 15k maximum if I can.Hi Avenelite,
Had a look @ MMDD and there is no problems with your 12km stretch.
Only 2 spots should make you plan;
After Conques you have two places Prayssac or Noalihac @ 10 km to divide the 20km into Decazeville.
You might have to walk 15km after Aire Sur l'Adour but it is very easy.
Wish i had the time to do the short stages , there are great places available.
Thanks so much for your reply and for the link. Thanks, too, to everyone on this Thread who has given such prompt advice and information regarding resources. Fortunately I have plenty of time to research the options regarding routes and accommodation. I found the information on this Forum so helpful whilst planning for the Camino Frances and attribute much of what I was able to glean from the past experiences of others to the fantastic time I had walking from St Jean to Muxia.Snippets of the MMD can be seen here:
http://www.chemindecompostelle.com/Selection/CarteFrance.html
Unfortunately, it is not the full MMD!
Hi there Thornley. Thanks so much for doing that for me (and for others planning a very slow journey!), much appreciated. I have the luxury of time so will take as many days as it takes to reach St Jean, taking detours and the extra night here and there. I realize that it is more difficult for those with restricted time and finances and I met so many on the Camino Frances who were amazed as my answers to the usual questions of: "When/where did you start the camino?" and "Where did you start from today?" By the way my shortest walk was 7 km, the longest 26km, but I much prefer to keep around 15k maximum if I can.
As I never booked accommodation whilst on the Camino Frances (exception- return visit to Santiago from Muxia), I am slowly coming to terms with the need to book ahead from Le Puy onwards. When asking a host, or at the tourist office, to phone for me is it usual for them to use their phone (I prefer not to carry one) and, if so, do I pay for the call? (Naturally, am happy to do so.) So far I haven't read anything about the protocol regarding these calls other than to avoid evening meal time preparation.
And finally...I wonder what time, generally, the various forms of accommodation open for guests. I assume closing time in the mornings is 8am.
You need to be able to demonstrate that you are a serious, polite person who is making a genuine effort. So if you get a firm grasp on the basic phrases and use them with humility, people will be glad to help you out. The basics would include: Hello, Goodbye, please, thank you, I"m sorry, Please excuse me, I would like to order ... , and Check please. You have time, so working with an online site or smartphone app such as Babbel or Michel Thomas (my favorite) will really pay off. The Rick Steves phrase book is invaluable. Younger people and Canadians are great resources, as well as the Tourist Offices. MMDD indicates which gites have English-speaking hosts.Do you need to speak French on this route?
Thanks for the excellent advice. Realising how helpful even a little Spanish was last year and how much my ability to communicate improved as the camino progressed, I started to learn French via paid lessons, audio and internet a few months back. I truly accept that a little effort now is so worthwhile and that local people will appreciate the end results, even though they be basic! Interestingly I was wondering what would constitute the main phrases to learn, so you have helped out there as well. I'll extrapolate from the Spanish experience and, if at a loss, especially with my broad Aussie accent, could perhaps resort to asking for a written reply! It sounds as if a copy of MMDD is invaluable.You need to be able to demonstrate that you are a serious, polite person who is making a genuine effort. So if you get a firm grasp on the basic phrases and use them with humility, people will be glad to help you out. The basics would include: Hello, Goodbye, please, thank you, I"m sorry, Please excuse me, I would like to order ... , and Check please. You have time, so working with an online site or smartphone app such as Babbel or Michel Thomas (my favorite) will really pay off. The Rick Steves phrase book is invaluable. Younger people and Canadians are great resources, as well as the Tourist Offices. MMDD indicates which gites have English-speaking hosts.
But you have to make the effort. The first year I walked in France, I knew no French at all. By the following year, I had a firm grasp of basic phrases and my experience was much, much less frustrating.
Ah! Love the idea of the good lunch/wine: makes waiting a pleasure and the perfect excuse to practise some of my fledging French. Thanks for the info re opening times. I should have realised that MMDD would cover that.2pm to 4.30pm arrival in the b&b and gites however you are told they will be out shopping etc until ???
MMDD also indicates when the places open.
ON arrival in a town we just had a good lunch with good wine around 1.30 and normally all was open after..
The phone calls will not cost you a cent
Hi edandjoan. Yes, we are very fortunate to reap the benefit of the experiences of others and the fact that they share so willingly. Very best wishes for a wonderful journey from leaving home to returning to your doorstep! You are obviously moving at a different pace to the one I plan, however via this forum I would appreciate hearing about your days on the Le Puy route. Take care, enjoy every day.This has been a very good thread for us. We are very close to purchasing our plane tickets, leaving Aug 24 and starting by Aug. 27 or 28.. Think we will fly to Paris then on to Lyon by train and hopefully meet up with a friend we made on the Primitivo last year then on to Le Puy and have 32-34 day to walk to Roncevalles. Then get to Barcelona to see another friend from the Primitivo. We are working on our French language and looking at the path and would like to take the Cele path. We have the Miam Miam Dodo book and Cicerone book. Keep the info coming!
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