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Hi, Castilian, Thanks a million! This format was easy to transfer to my computer. LaurieI think tracks are available too at:
www.caminodesantiagoennavarra.es/index.php?m=84&t=18
P.S.: I'm sorry I can't help you with your question about transfering tracks.
This looks like it has the same track information as the earlier link, but in one file. I have not checked all the tracks, but the first couple appear to be identical in both places.I think tracks are available too at:
www.caminodesantiagoennavarra.es/index.php?m=84&t=18
P.S.: I'm sorry I can't help you with your question about transfering tracks.
Hi Laurie
When are you planning on walking?
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Laurie, I have translated the KMZ files into gpx and put them into the resource area here. The file contains all 17 tracks from the site. If you download the file, it can be opened in:
From Basecamp, you should be able to then transfer the tracks to a connected GPS unit.
- Garmin Basecamp or Garmin Mapsource, which I have tested, and
- any mapping program that can use the gpx file standard (I haven't tested this!).
Do you need detailed instructions on a sequence of steps for this?
I don't know that it really matters if you have the space. When I was testing this worked with the tracks I had translated, I put them into the User Data folder on the memory card.Thank you a million, Doug. I have the files on my computer now. I do have a question about transferring them to the Garmin. What is the difference between transferring them to the device or transferring them to the memory card? I assume it makes more sense to put them on the memory card, which has a lot more space, but I know that my tech assumptions are frequently wrong.
I don't know that it really matters if you have the space. When I was testing this worked with the tracks I had translated, I put them into the User Data folder on the memory card.
Whatever you do, once you have transferred the tracks, disconnect your GPS, restart it and make sure that you can find the tracks in the Track Manager.
Have a super time, Laurie. I enjoyed it very much in May - but it IS a lonely camino. I stayed in four albergues, and was totally alone in three of them!
Links to my Ebro camino and associated photographs are on my web site.
The storks are amazing ... they are everywhere, and I took too many pictures of them!
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Oh, wait a minute. This is what my screen shows.
I assumed that meant that because the tracks were all listed under the "archived tracks" button, that they were actually stored in that part of the machine. But when I click on archived tracks, it tells me there are no archived tracks. And when I click on current track they tell me there are no current tracks. So this long list of tracks is neither archived nor current, right? That just means they are there for me to use when I need them?
So, I have just checked on my machine, and indeed, when I click on any particular stage, it pulls up the map of that stage. This suggests to me that I will be able to use them. But I wonder if you have any ideas about what may have happened to me this year.Laurie, I think you are correct, that is that these tracks are going to be available to use. The etrex30 has a similar approach, although a slightly smaller display. If you scroll down to the track you want and select/open it you should get a screen that includes an option to 'View Map'. Scroll to and select that option. The track should come up on screen with any mapping you have loaded, with a single option bar 'Go'. To navigate the track, select that 'Go' option, otherwise use the 'Back' button to go to the previous page.
@peregrina2000 - Laurie, I have found another source of tracks for all the major routes in Spain on the Centro de Descargas run by the Centro Nacional de Información Geográfica (CNIG). It provides KML files as downloads, which can be imported directly into Basecamp once they have been saved.
I have checked a couple of the early tracks, and the CNIG tracks appear to be the basic route, ie they do not have extensions into towns for accommodation, etc. I also checked a couple of the alignments in Google Earth where there were a couple of legs that appeared unusually straight, and it appears that in at least one place the track goes straight across a ridge line well away from the road network. It appears that at that point, the track provided is not a particularly accurate representation of where you might need to walk. At this point, the tracks that I downloaded the other day are even further away from where you might actually walk. Whichever you use, do so with caution!
Thanks, Doug, I have read that there are several long stretches through tunnels. Seems that they have no lighting, and are very long and dark, so it looks like I'll have to bring a good headlamp this year instead of the one I use in albergues. And I'm comparing Alan's tracks from his current walk to the ones I've downloaded and it looks like they are ok. LaurieNot all of the 'track' actually follows a track on the ground. If one were to try and follow the GPS track, you would be scrub-bashing and crossing a couple of pretty steep ridgelines.
If you look at the track from Xerta to Gandesa, it follows the river for about six km, before heading north west along a stream. Rather than following the bend of the river to its junction with the stream, the GPS track seems to cross straight across the ridge line. It might be that what is intended is to use the tunnel through the ridgeline just before where the track is marked, or the track network just after it. There appear to be other parts of the route that go through tunnels as well. The photographs linked on Google Earth show that while they once might have been used for vehicular traffic, they are now bike and walking paths.
I can only assume that the Via Verde is well enough marked so that you are not likely to be tempted to follow the GPS track religiously at these places.
Thanks, Doug, I have read that there are several long stretches through tunnels. Seems that they have no lighting, and are very long and dark,
Laurie, until I made a small adjustment to the memory card holder, it would sometimes slide open and the card contacts would not be meeting up with those in the GPS unit itself. This will mean that any information stored on the memory card is inaccessible - maps, tracks, the works. If you have found this happening, eg when replacing batteries, it is possible to tighten the small claws on each side of the metal holder so they the holder is less likely to slip open accidentally. If you want to do this yourself, you will need a small pair of needle-nosed or similar pliers, and be careful! When I did it, I was concerned not to go too far and break the holder.
If this had occurred and you reloaded the track, it might have been that you then had copies of the tracks in both the devices memory and on the memory card, which would have explained the duplicates you later found.
Let me address the last question first - it really doesn't matter so far as I can tell unless you want to use an archived track. Both ways will get you to a point where you have the option to use the current saved tracks. Where it does make a difference is if you have used the archive option to remove a track from the 'active' list. The only way to see these, as far as I can tell, is using the Track Manager. They don't appear when starting from the Where To function.Doug, a belated thanks for this note. I am virtually certain that's what messed me up last year -- that sometimes when I changed the batteries, the memory card was moved out of contact.
I have successfully downloaded all the GPS tracks you have converted, but have a couple more questions.
First, my memory card has 16 gb, is that a lot or a little? Just wondering whether I have to worry about putting too much on there.
And second, maybe more important, it turns out that I now have, for a lot of the route anyway, two sets of similar tracks. I have alansykes' tracks and the ones you converted. I wonder if this is going to mess me up when I go to find a track. Will I see both of them at the same time or will there be a way to see which one I'm using?
And third, a question about starting out in the morning. I think I have been going to "track manager" to find the track I want to have running, but someone told me I should be using the "where to" button. Is there a difference between these two?
Thanks for your patience, Laurie
While having a lot of mapping information might seem like a good idea, I find that there are performance issues, and my GPS slows down as it works through all the data that is active, particularly if you use map that have a routing layer included. If this is a issue for you, it might be worthwhile disabling the maps sets you don't want to use.
Some map sets contain the information about how road and track networks are joined up as well as some other characteristics like how many lanes and which side of the road is used, etc. This information can then be used to plot paths from one place to another. It is at the heart of in-car GPS units, but can be used by a variety of handheld GPS units with the functionality to use that information. Typically this might increase the size of the map data file by 50-100% over a file that doesn't have this information included. So its just so much more data to store and process. Some sources give you the option of including routing information when you download mapping information, other don't.Doug, can you explain what it means to use a map that has a "routing layer"? And will it still be slowed down if I choose one particular set of tracks over another when I go to "where to?"
Thanks, Laurie
and a big thanks for all the other info
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