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You fill in the details from your own Covid cert into the Spanish Covid cert application referenced above, you then present that at point of entry in Spain.Can I just clarify what you mean! There is the ‘entry pass’ which had been referenced here that gets you into Spain! Then you need a ‘proof of vax’ pass to enter some places within Spain, which is the QR code that was issued in your own country post 2nd vax.
My last experience was November 21. Whilst I carried multiple copies of my home country QR code with me physically and electronically, as well as several copies of the Spanish QR code; I was asked for neither once I entered the country. There were, and still are, only those two documents for someone not resident in Spain.Can I just clarify what you mean! There is the ‘entry pass’ which had been referenced here that gets you into Spain! Then you need a ‘proof of vax’ pass to enter some places within Spain, which is the QR code that was issued in your own country post 2nd vax.
There's a map of the Spanish regions in this article. Move mouse or finger to a region to see under which circumstances a pasaporte Covid is currently required in this region. Covid-19 related requirements change all the time and they are never the same everywhere. It's January 2022 now, folks.
New Zealand is on the list of countries with EU compatible QR codes ... that maybe useful to know for potential pilgrims. It means that their vaccination QR code can be scanned and recognised by the scanning apps that restaurants, museums, shops, hotels use in individual EU countries - i.e. in those countries that use checking apps, for example in France and quite a few others. I am not sure whether they scan in Spain or just check visually.tell you that your home countries QR is valid. Or not.
Thank you l! Yes understand that! What I was getting at was was the same point that @Kathar1na made. Once is Spain you can pretty much use the QR code from your own country anywhere in my experience (subject to @Kathar1na note). But please check for South Africa. Some places just do a visual check and some scan. So I have my QR from UK. I have downloaded the apps from Italy (Green Pass), Germany (Luca) France (PS) and the EU Covid passport and scanned my QR code into their apps for ease but you don’t need to as UK version is sufficient! I haven’t seen a dedicated Spain version. I think they just use EU version but my other versions all work in Spain. I have used my UK or EU version across at least 10 other countries too in last three months such as Bulgaria and Romania and also non EU countries such as Bosnia. I guess to a scanning machine a QR is just a QR code irrespective of where issued?You fill in the details from your own Covid cert into the Spanish Covid cert application referenced above, you then present that at point of entry in Spain.
Thanks, yes, I was referring to the pasaporte Covid, which may be required to enter restaurants, etc.It's not clear what @jsalt's question refers to. If the question refers to the pasaporte Covid
You have been getting around quite a bit, @ Chef66. You must be by far the forum member with the widest experience in presenting your vaccination QR code in various countries. For the time being, it looks like this is going to stay. Perhaps it’s useful to explain it a bit further because the terminology is confusing?I have downloaded the apps from Italy (Green Pass), Germany (Luca) France (PS) and the EU Covid passport and scanned my QR code into their apps for ease but you don’t need to as UK version is sufficient!
Thank you @Kathar1na ! Yes I spend most of my time in Spain but am just at the end of a 3 month Interrail pass and would have been more countries if a few trains hadn’t been cancelled! I did plan to do the VdLP in October but decided to do the train trip!You have been getting around quite a bit, @ Chef66. You must be by far the forum member with the widest experience in presenting your vaccination QR code in various countries. For the time being, it looks like this is going to stay. Perhaps it’s useful to explain it a bit further because the terminology is confusing?
There is the QR vaccination code. It is a technical standard in all EU countries, and there are a number of non-EU countries, among them the UK and New Zealand, who issue a vaccination QR that corresponds to the same technical standards as the EU standard. This means that everyone who got vaccinated in an EU country or countries like the UK or New Zealand are “good to go” and don’t need to do anything, except carrying their QR on paper or on their mobile phones with them in case they need to show it.
Numerous EU countries have developed a national app where people can download, store and display their vaccination QR. These apps have different names: Pass Sanitaire or Tous Anti Covid in France, Covid Safe Ticket in Belgium, Pasaporte Verde in Italy, Luca App or Impfpass in Germany, and so on. When a restaurant or hotel is obliged by law to check the vaccination status of their customer, the staff often say that they want to see this app but all they need to see is the QR code. I don’t know whether Spain has such an app that can be used to display one’s vaccination QR.
Numerous EU countries have developed another national app which restaurant or hotel staff use to scan the customer’s vaccination QR code to verify that it is valid and to see the customer’s name. As far as I can tell, Spain has not developed such a national scanning app. I was a bit amused to see that one Spanish region advises to use the scanning app developed and used in Luxembourg and another region advises to use the Swiss scanning app.
As @Chef66 has observed, it’s a mixed bag overall. Although it may be the law that say restaurant staff have to check your vaccination status, they may not do so at all; or only ask you whether you have the code and you confirm; or want you to show the code to them on your mobile phone; or scan it and verify that the app says “OK”; or scan it and also check your ID.
Spain does not seem to have embraced this system as fervently as other EU countries have done. Some Spanish regions like Castilla y Leon don‘t check vaccination status at all for access to restaurants, hotels and albergues. That means no hassle of this kind during a big chunk of the Camino Francés.
i know that in France and also in Germany, people can obtain a digital QR code if they present their ID and their vaccination card in a pharmacy. France offered this possibility also online to foreign visitors but this option is currently not available. I don’t know whether pharmacies in a Spanish region would be able to do the same for pilgrims from countries like South Africa or the USA or Canada for example. Anecdotal evidence indicates that, at least in the past and when required, they just had to show their foreign vaccination cards for access to restaurants, hotels and albergues.
Apologies for the length of this post! And Buen Camino to @jsalt.
You probably were. It is not necessary to pay for this type of document. I think you can accept and move on from that. I just got my new Irish certificate, and glad to have it, although it may be quite some time before I waste any time or energy trying to use it to get out of the country!I have my QR code for the French Pass Sanitaire which took months to obtain and when I applied for the same thing in Spain I was told not to apply until several days before my travel. Meanwhile, I paid some government entity $60USD for the application in Spain and several people have responded that I was probably scammed by some bogus site.
However, in Spain, these requirements are not as strict and as common as in some other countries.
Sorry I don’t understand! I scanned my UK NHS pass QR into the EU version and added to Apple Wallet. If that fails can’t you just l, say, download the Italy Green Pass (for example) and scan into that and will be usable in Spain! Maybe I am missing something but as long as you had a QR code from a ‘valid’ country you are good tomgo. It all’s feel very smooth and easy? Maybe it’s more tricky for non Europeans buf would be interested to see if someone could scan their non Europe QR code into, say, Italy Green Pass!?Thanks for the great information on all of this. And yes, let's clarify the terms, between the SpTH QR code needed just for entry into Spain and the EU Digital Covid Passport, which has your vaccine information but which is hard to obtain for foreigners.
Spain is becoming more strict with asking for the EU Digital Covid Passport. Recently we went to a movie and they required it. Some of us only had CDC paper cards, and they said they'd admit that just this one time. They were really looking for the EU Digital Covid Passport with the flags on it, signifying it was good for all of the EU.
And the other day a McDonald's in the mall also required the EU pass IF you were dining in. If you were carrying out, you didn't have to show it.
The problem is how to obtain a digital EU pass QR code, acceptable and able to be scanned in Europe, if you're a foreigner. I still haven't seen an answer to that in Spain, but they need to figure it out soon because tourism is going to start picking up again. I know in the summer and fall restaurants and albergues did accept the CDC card and other non-digital versions (if they asked for something at all). But now with the govt requiring restaurants to ask for the EU Digital Covid Passport QR code all day long, restaurants may be reluctant to accept diners who don't have it.
What a great reason to eat and drink in as many different establishments as you possibly can!I am in Madrid today, followed by Malaga (Andalusia) tomorrow, followed by Barcelona (Catalonia) for 3 days after that so will report back any observations! Obviously anecdotal and subject to change!
Sorry I don’t understand! I scanned my UK NHS pass QR into the EU version and added to Apple Wallet. If that fails can’t you just l, say, download the Italy Green Pass (for example) and scan into that and will be usable in Spain! Maybe I am missing something but as long as you had a QR code from a ‘valid’ country you are good tomgo. It all’s feel very smooth and easy? Maybe it’s more tricky for non Europeans buf would be interested to see if someone could scan their non Europe QR code into, say, Italy Green Pass!?
Ha ha yes. Maybe I can apply for sponsorship funding as in best interests of all us good folk!What a great reason to eat and drink in as many different establishments as you possibly can!
Ah ok! Am surprised you cannot scan a paper copy onto a digital app irrespective of geography. I just assumed a QR code was a QR code with no geographical properties! You certainly can in Europe but don’t doubt your knowledge! Hope not being rude but have you tried scanning to say Italy green pass useable in Spain.Good question!
Some citizens, for example Americans, only have a paper certificate of vaccination, not a digital one, so they can't scan any QR codes into any EU apps!I think your solution might be workable if Americans got a QR code from America to begin with, but they don't .
I think I can explain this: The American CDC cards do not contain a barcode or a square QR code. They contain only text that is printed and/or hand written. That is why the checking apps used in the EU cannot scan CDC cards and cannot check them, and why you cannot scan them into the vaccination passport apps.Am surprised you cannot scan a paper copy onto a digital app irrespective of geography. I just assumed a QR code was a QR code with no geographical properties!
Thank you! That’s very clear! And clearly the reason!! Sorry was not doubting anyone was just a littleI think I can explain this: The American CDC cards do not contain a barcode or a square QR code. They contain only text that is printed and/or hand written. That is why the checking apps used in the EU cannot scan CDC cards and cannot check them, and why you cannot scan them into the vaccination passport apps.
In contrast, the NHS provides a QR code and that code is now compatible with the EU system. It wasn't the case earlier last year.
A bit like you, I have - or rather had as I've zapped most of them - a formidable collection of scanning apps from various EU countries and I have scanned the NHS code of my English visitors and English family members with them to see whether and how it works. And I can confirm that it works just fine now as you know yourself ... And as you said you can scan any vaccination QR that has been issued by an EU country or by a country on the 'compatible' list from a paper printout into any of the vaccination passport apps of the various EU countries but it is not necessary.
Sorry was not doubting anyone was just a little
Mystified!
Indeed and thank you! Probably worth adding that there is a huge sense of self compliance in Spain with the Covid rules! Whilst checks may not be as high as other countries am led to believe that vaxxed take up is very high >90%. Maybe this explains lesser checks! The rule of outdoor mask wearing (which probably is the most debatable) is hugely complied with! A quick look just now and it was everybody in the centre of Madrid!No worries at all. This is only ONE aspect of why this whole concept raises questions and confusion!
The problem is how to obtain a digital EU Digital Passport, acceptable and able to be scanned in Europe, if you're a foreigner with only a paper vaccination certificate.
This is the boat I'm in, from a SE Asian country.The American CDC cards do not contain a barcode or a square QR code. They contain only text that is printed and/or hand written.
I have my covid19 with booster from ireland so do I need to get a Spanish one? I think EU and freedom of movement applies? I am heading in April.As referenced above it’s straightforward, providing you’re fully vaccinated. Currently that’s two vaccinations (but that may change to three).
Equipped with the QR code which you are sent having completed the online form, you’ll pass through passport control as normal and then find serried ranks of staff from the Spanish health service who will check your documentation.
Your airline will probably check your health pass at check-in as, if denied entry, you’re partially their problem.
I’ve been to Spain several times under this regimen and it’s always been efficient and good-natured.
First of all, April is a long way off. Assuming that nothing changes between early January 2022 and April 2022 - unlikely, everybody expects things to be better by then -, you will have to apply for the Spanish Travel Health QR code (online or app). Everyone who flies to Spain has to do this.I have my covid19 with booster from ireland so do I need to get a Spanish one? I think EU and freedom of movement applies? I am heading in April.
Some states (one of which is my state of residence) maintain a database and offer a QR code verifying vaccination within that state. I have paper CDC card, and an electronic card and QR code issued by the state. Is that sufficient to get/work the EU apps?Good question!
Some citizens, for example Americans, only have a paper certificate of vaccination, not a digital one, so they can't scan any QR codes into any EU apps!I think your solution might be workable if Americans got a QR code from America to begin with, but they don't .
No - we have that. It doesn’t work anywhere and no one likes it.Some states (one of which is my state of residence) maintain a database and offer a QR code verifying vaccination within that state. I have paper CDC card, and an electronic card and QR code issued by the state. Is that sufficient to get/work the EU apps?
Thanks. I didn't think showing a QR code from a state in the US in most places would be sufficient. More so, asking if the QR code from the US can be scanned into the various EU apps to generate an acceptable EU QR code.No - we have that. It doesn’t work anywhere and no one likes it.
Several places tried to scan ours without success.Thanks. I didn't think showing a QR code from a state in the US in most places would be sufficient. More so, asking if the QR code from the US can be scanned into the various EU apps to generate an acceptable EU QR code.
Just to clarify again: The various EU vaccination apps don't generate codes or convert non-EU codes. You don't even need to have such an app. All that is needed for scanning and automatic verification is an EU issued or an EU recognised vaccination QR code - just the black and white square on paper or on screen.Thanks. I didn't think showing a QR code from a state in the US in most places would be sufficient. More so, asking if the QR code from the US can be scanned into the various EU apps to generate an acceptable EU QR code.
Thank you.@Phoenix, if you are curious and you want to scan and check your QR code yourself to see whether it would work or not, you can download a scan+verification app from the app stores. You can use any of these (and there are more): TAC Verif (French government - Tous Anti Covid Verification), CovidScanBE (Belgian government), Covid Check (Swiss Government), CovidCheck.lu (national app for Luxembourg), Passe Covid (official Portuguese validation app) and also Verificacovid (web based app, online at https://verificacovid.gencat.cat, Spanish/Catalonia government).
I recently discovered that the "portal" that my health care provider uses now has a QR code with my vaccination status.Good question!
Some citizens, for example Americans, only have a paper certificate of vaccination, not a digital one, so they can't scan any QR codes into any EU apps!I think your solution might be workable if Americans got a QR code from America to begin with, but they don't .
I have been trying this on and off for a while. Up until last week, at least, the QR codes issued in NA by various state/provincial authorities do NOT scan with the EU system, they are based upon different technical standards and the access system into the various state run data bases doesn't work with the EU scanner. Thats fair enough, the Canadian scanners won't read an EU QR code either. Government working groups swear that this will all be remedied, perhaps by 2043 when the grand unified scanner gets released at the Global IT plenary session in Geneva. Just kidding of course, but the interoperability of the four different QR code standards used around the world is still, for the moment, an annoying work in progress. Not really an issue in Spain at the moment, but very much an issue in France where enforcement is rigorous. For pilgrims planning to do anything in France in the near term, plan a trip to a pharmacy the day you arrive to get your passe sanitaire which IS a QR code usable all over Europe.I recently discovered that the "portal" that my health care provider uses now has a QR code with my vaccination status.
I will try @Kathar1na's method to see if the QR code is the correct format.
Not surprisingly, my QR code wasn't compatible.I recently discovered that the "portal" that my health care provider uses now has a QR code with my vaccination status.
I will try @Kathar1na's method to see if the QR code is the correct format.
Not surprisingly, my QR code wasn't compatible.
When I go I will bring the original.Question for those of you from the US: Did you carry your original CDC card or a photocopy? We all know how valuable that little card has become and what a pain it is to replace it.
Thanks for sharing your very recent experience. I'm assuming that as more US visitors arrive this spring, more locals at hotels, restaurants, museums, etc. will become familiar with our CDC card.In Spain the last 3 weeks, my husband and I carried the original CDC card protected in a clear plastic envelope. We also had a scan of it on our phones and numerous photocopies! There was no issue with showing our CDC card in place of an EU qr code anywhere we went. Requests to produce proof of vaccination were variable in restaurants but always necessary in museums.
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