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Al,After a few caminos I thought I had the packing cracked. However while walking in beautiful sunshine the other day (yes even in England it happens) I started thinking how nice it was not to have a pack on my back. I then started to think how I could manage without one. Eventually I realised it was not practical. I was going into Birmingham for a reunion with some old workmates the next day (yesterday), near to where there is a Cotswold Outdoor store. So I bought a lightweight day pack. Packed and ready to go I find myself with only 3.3K! So it looks like I'm going light this time.
The bag in the picture is fully packed ready for my next Camino. It contains all I need for a Camino of any duration. Though I must say I don't do winter walking. It contains a change of clothes, sandals, soft shell coat, waterproof coat, hat, bag liner, towel and toiletries, first aid, spare phone batteries and charger.
I wish! It works out at 3.5% because I am not exactly a slim thing.3.3 kilos..... wow. Now employing the 10% rule that makes you only 33 kilos. Just a mere slip of a thing.
LOLAl, I'm impressed. But why no mention of the deodorant, lipstick and hair gel?
I wish! It works out at 3.5% because I am not exactly a slim thing.
Like I said above - a change of clothes, sandals, soft shell coat, waterproof coat, hat, bag liner, towel and toiletries, first aid, spare phone batteries and charger.Ok Al......any chance of you posting your packing list?
Very impressive!! And thought provoking. Obviously my packing skills need improvement.The bag in the picture is fully packed ready for my next Camino. It contains all I need for a Camino of any duration. Though I must say I don't do winter walking. It contains a change of clothes, sandals, soft shell coat, waterproof coat, hat, bag liner, towel and toiletries, first aid, spare phone batteries and charger.
After a few caminos I thought I had the packing cracked. However while walking in beautiful sunshine the other day (yes even in England it happens) I started thinking how nice it was not to have a pack on my back. I then started to think how I could manage without one. Eventually I realised it was not practical. I was going into Birmingham for a reunion with some old workmates the next day (yesterday), near to where there is a Cotswold Outdoor store. So I bought a lightweight day pack. Packed and ready to go I find myself with only 3.3K! So it looks like I'm going light this time.
Al, what type of pack is it? What is the weight of the pack only?. only 3.3K!
There are two Brierley books. One with additional information and one with only the maps. The second one logically is lighter. I preferred the book with additional info better than a phone app.I'm another who would like to know whether a guidebook is really needed for a first timer, or would a phone app be sufficient? The Brierley book is so heavy, and frankly I'd rather have the deodorant or lipstick!
I'm another who would like to know whether a guidebook is really needed for a first timer, or would a phone app be sufficient? The Brierley book is so heavy, and frankly I'd rather have the deodorant or lipstick!
Crumbs! The Forum badge sure will increase that 3.3 kgms!Hi Al - top pic : all you need now is your Forum badge! Cheers!
Absolutely, absolutely. Everyone either scolded or laughed at me for carrying so much. I always said it was my sins, and that when I finally took the pack off my back in Santiago each time there was a tremendous shedding of guilt and consequent lightness of spirit. I'm too catholic for my own good sometimes.Easier to toss your pack in a taxi. Can not understand why anyone is concerned with weight when a large per centage of walkers don't carry anything and use taxis to carry packs. As the Wise young woman told me on the Camino, " You don't get an extra Compostella for your pack". I enjoyed carrying a 12 kilo pack--feels weird to not carry it anymore and I have been off the Camino for 4 weeks now.
I'm another who would like to know whether a guidebook is really needed for a first timer, or would a phone app be sufficient? The Brierley book is so heavy, and frankly I'd rather have the deodorant or lipstick!
Hi Al -Jenny - I'm fed up of transferring them and my others every time I downsize
Yes I was going to pack 3 pairs and find a washer every few days but the minimalis bug bit me this week Stephen.
I don't carry guide books, I have scanned them into my phone, but you don't really need one as has already been explained.
The bag is a sea to summit day pack that folds into itself so small it fits in the palm of my hand!
I downloaded the Wise Pilgrim on my android and everytime I try to look at a map, it crashesAs I'm a repeater I don't need anything but out f interest (and nostalgia) I downloaded the WisePilgrim app and can't imagine you would need anything else. It looks a very comprehensive practical guide.
For deeper understanding of what you are seeing along the way, download the Kindle version of "The Pilgrim Road to Santiago: The Complete Cultural Handbook" by Gitlitz and Davidson. It in no way provides practical information but a wealth of art, architecture, history, flora, fauna, stories, myths and legends.
I downloaded the Wise Pilgrim on my android and everytime I try to look at a map, it crashesI am not a happy camper!!!!!!!
I do agree with you a backpack on my person makes me feel like I have a purpose. I always travel with one small but yet with one and I walk around town also with one. One never knows when a backpack comes in handy. I also have a theory as to why you English explored the world. Someday I will explain it to you when we meet along the way.After a few caminos I thought I had the packing cracked. However while walking in beautiful sunshine the other day (yes even in England it happens) I started thinking how nice it was not to have a pack on my back. I then started to think how I could manage without one. Eventually I realised it was not practical. I was going into Birmingham for a reunion with some old workmates the next day (yesterday), near to where there is a Cotswold Outdoor store. So I bought a lightweight day pack. Packed and ready to go I find myself with only 3.3K! So it looks like I'm going light this time.
As they say - you either love it or hate it and personally I'm one of the later.Hi Al -
Your pack looks fabulous and now that you've told us that it folds down to almost nothing, I think sea to summit might see a spike in sales from Forum members! One question though - will there be room for the vegemite?
Cheers!
Jenny
Absolutely, absolutely. Everyone either scolded or laughed at me for carrying so much. I always said it was my sins, and that when I finally took the pack off my back in Santiago each time there was a tremendous shedding of guilt and consequent lightness of spirit. I'm too catholic for my own good sometimes.
When I answered your question as to what pack was it I did so while walking the other day. So I could only say SeaToSummit. Just to complete the info now I have it to hand (literally). It is their UltraSil DayPack. It weighs 68 grams (2.4 oz) and holds 20 Litres.Al, what type of pack is it? What is the weight of the pack only?
When I answered your question as to what pack was it I did so while walking the other day. So I could only say SeaToSummit. Just to complete the info now I have it to hand (literally). It is their UltraSil DayPack. It weighs 68 grams (2.4 oz) and holds 20 Litres.
Also try a Rick Steves trick and cut up the guide book to the most necessary parts while traveling, maps, etc. They even sell inexpensive light weight plastic covers to reconstruct your book with the necessities only. http://travelstore.ricksteves.com/catalog/index.cfm?fuseaction=product&theParentId=126&id=528The way is well marked and you can bring all info on albergues on your phone, they are available here on the forum and updated regularly. Somone suggested taking photos of your guide book with your phone and using that. I tried it with a few pages and it works fine.
Oh my goodness, I've had this same pack for about 5 months - using it as my everyday carryall. Why have I been looking at an ultralight at 650 gm when I already have the ultralightest there is??? Thanks Al!!When I answered your question as to what pack was it I did so while walking the other day. So I could only say SeaToSummit. Just to complete the info now I have it to hand (literally). It is their UltraSil DayPack. It weighs 68 grams (2.4 oz) and holds 20 Litres.
Like I said above - a change of clothes, sandals, soft shell coat, waterproof coat, hat, bag liner, towel and toiletries, first aid, spare phone batteries and charger.
LOL. They can think what they want. I don't care what people think about it. They can think me a Touringo, an idle so and so, or whatever. I've evolved and pray they do the same.No one will be envious of that light pack - everyone will assume Al sent his wheelie suitcase with a baggage transfer service!!
I forgot to mention "other stuff" which includes some gaffer tape etc.I like your list Al, I like it very much indeed. Don't forget the sewing kit and tiny tube of superglue!
Hey Annie - do you reckon we could convert Al re the vegemite? As we both well know, if you eat enough of it the mozzies won't attack you ... I wonder if it would work on the Camino as a good bed bug 'preventative'! So many people hate it, maybe the bed bugs would too!I'm sure you'll be a happy little vegemite ! Just winging your way to Santiago with a load that's light and a smile that's bright.
Buen Camino Al.
Should be good meeting Saturday. So many of the 'mob' have been away , so there will be many tales to be told. The hospitalero times, caminos, Kat!, SDC, Ivar, holidays and vegemite !Hey Annie - do you reckon we could convert Al re the vegemite? As we both well know, if you eat enough of it the mozzies won't attack you ... I wonder if it would work on the Camino as a good bed bug 'preventative'! So many people hate it, maybe the bed bugs would too!
See you at the Rissole on Saturday!
Hat, buff and very light gloves included in "other stuff". I have been hanging a water bottle on a carabiner from the grab handle. Boots are Meindl but cannot remember model name. However after some test walks I am not sure this is the way to go as it is tight packing, not quite practical enough and leaves some things to be desired. So the actual pack to use is a work in progress. I am happy with the pre-pack weight, so now I have a little weight available for comfort/practicality issues.What about a hat to protect you from the sun Al and how far are you walking?I'm also worried about where you are going to keep your water does it have side pockets.
On a serious note I think you have sorted the lightweight walking gear well, and those boots what make are they?
Enjoy your casinos. I am envious.
Mmmm Macabi skirt! Way to go!Now there's a challenge ... Well done! In fact you could just as well have got a Macabi skirt and put everything in the pockets
I am going to go the whole have-pack-carried hog next time. Have ten days, going via walking tour company in Italy, self-guided, to walk on a bit of the St Francis trail near Assisi. My pack will have room for extra souvenirs I might buy along the way and I won't even have to carry them. I might even buy a bigger packLOL. They can think what they want. I don't care what people think about it. They can think me a Touringo, an idle so and so, or whatever. I've evolved and pray they do the same.Seriously though I am quite excited at the prospect of going lighter.
Hi Nidarosa and Camino Ellie -
I just couldn't resist posting this - the mens' Macabi skirt!
This of course excludes any scots, who are sadly a lost cause.
Don't call me digger cobber.Watch it, digger.
I'm a clan descendant of the Black Douglas who died fighting the Moors at Teba in 1330!
Don't call me digger cobber.
I'm a Kiwi (I just live in Brissy).
I figure a one man haka would scare you off.
Male skirt wearers.
Pleased be advised that if I ever come across you dressed in a skirt, and looking as stupid as the person in the above photos, I feel I will be unable to refrain from giving you a sound slapping.
This of course excludes any scots, who are sadly a lost cause.
Regds
Gerard
Male skirt wearers.
Pleased be advised that if I ever come across you dressed in a skirt, and looking as stupid as the person in the above photos, I feel I will be unable to refrain from giving you a sound slapping.
This of course excludes any scots, who are sadly a lost cause.
Regds
Gerard
Gave in to temptation at the local GoOutdoors store and rather than messing about to reach a less than ideal and unsightly compromise I have bought a Berghaus Remote 25L. It fits inside even RyanDares cabin sizes and everything goes inside for the flight. I always hang my sandals outside when walking, leaving some internal food room. Maximum total weight carrying everything except the one set of clothes (shirt, zip-off trousers, boxers, socks) 5K. What is included? Two 500ml aluminium water bottles (kept in side pockets), change of clothes, sandals, soft shell coat, waterproof coat, hat, buff, light gloves, bag liner, towel and toiletries (dental floss doubles as a repair aid), first aid (including plasters and compeed), maintenance stuff (needles, thread, gaffer tape, scissors, tweezers, nail cutters, nail file), spare phone batteries and chargers (I have two cheap battery chargers and batteries so I can charge without worrying about my phone or about doing it every night). Yes I know it is more than the 3.3k, but at 5% of my body weight it really is nothing for me and the added comfort/convenience/practicality is worth it I think.You can cut a webbing utility belt in half and sew it on to make a waist/hip belt!
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