I just got a "like" from Falcon

JohnnieWalker · Oct 9, 2013

How times change...isn't progress wonderful:

http://www.caminodesantiago.me/comm...-to-live-up-to-expectations.14105/#post-95887

In May 2012: Ivar wrote: I see that I need to add a "Like" button to the forum

On May 31 2012 Falcon said:

"Please don't!!!!! This is one of the last refuges from Facebook! "Like" is passionless; pap for the teen who has not learned to Love and Hate, or even complete a sentence without putting the qualifying "like" somewhere in it so he makes no commitment to the sentence's content. It would take a nuanced Scale-of-One-to-Ten to give everyone a gradient from which to choose. "Like" gives you the choice between saying nothing and a "5." It is beige; oatmeal without a topping; tepid water; non-alcoholic beer; decaf coffee. Please, please, please save us from Zuckerberg!"

falcon269, May 31, 2012

Go on Falcon...keep hitting that Like button!

jirit · Oct 10, 2013

I thought your post was great, so I decided to "like" it. I hope falcon269 approves.

You never know where this might end

BrianForbesColgate · Oct 10, 2013

After that, how could I NOT go back and Like Falcon269’s original post as well?

Unfortunately, I then read all of that topic ... so sad in so many ways.

Wanderer64 · Oct 10, 2013

I'll be damned, Hell freezes over after all!

vicrev · Oct 10, 2013

Give the bloke a break,he might have an ancient computer,one button,ON/OFF.....................Vicrev

grayland · Oct 10, 2013

JohnnieWalker said:
How times change...isn't progress wonderful:

http://www.caminodesantiago.me/comm...-to-live-up-to-expectations.14105/#post-95887

In May 2012: Ivar wrote: I see that I need to add a "Like" button to the forum

On May 31 2012 Falcon said:

"Please don't!!!!! This is one of the last refuges from Facebook! "Like" is passionless; pap for the teen who has not learned to Love and Hate, or even complete a sentence without putting the qualifying "like" somewhere in it so he makes no commitment to the sentence's content. It would take a nuanced Scale-of-One-to-Ten to give everyone a gradient from which to choose. "Like" gives you the choice between saying nothing and a "5." It is beige; oatmeal without a topping; tepid water; non-alcoholic beer; decaf coffee. Please, please, please save us from Zuckerberg!"

falcon269, May 31, 2012

Go on Falcon...keep hitting that Like button!

grayland · Oct 10, 2013

Thanks John...you made my day!
(Still in Spain .....serving as Hospitaleros in Carrion now)

dalston999 · Oct 10, 2013

JohnnieWalker said:
How times change...isn't progress wonderful:

I am confused!
Is this the thread about how the camino has changed this year? Recommendations for Spa retreats, requests for locations of golf courses along the camino, meeting an Austrian Tourigrino group on a busalbergue walking a few kms each day, growing use of transport services, reserving beds ahead....... .and now a 'like' from Falcon? Indeed, not just the camino changing but the pilgrims too?

Carol06 · Oct 10, 2013

Is there an "I love it" button?

Deleted member 3000 · Oct 10, 2013

But is Zuckerberg collecting the "likes" on the Forum? I think Ivar's button may be different...

vicrev · Oct 10, 2013

Who is this Zuckerberg? Another good old talk show host? Sausage maker?.....................Vicrev

Deleted member 3000 · Oct 11, 2013

While there is nothing wrong with liking things, using "Like" on the internet lets Facebook track everything you Like, and use it for marketing purposes. It is ironic that we object when the NSA tracks personal information on the internet, but voluntarily give most of the same data to Zuckerberg. Caveat emptor.

Facebook is binning a feature that lets people retain their anonymity on the social network.

The retirement of the "Who can look up your Timeline by name?" privacy setting was announced by the company on Thursday. It means anyone can find the profile of someone else through the search bar.

People used to be able to make themselves disappear from the search functions built into the site, and hide their presence on the network to strangers by modifying the setting.

Facebook had removed the feature for everyone that hadn't turned it on late last year, and now is erasing it for those who opted in as well.

If users are affected by this, Facebook suggests they retain a sense of privacy by carefully choosing "the audience of the individual things you share", according to a blog post by Mark Zuckerberg-led biz.

Being careful about what you slap on the site doesn't get rid of the problem that you can now be found on Facebook, mind, whereas before stalkers admirers could look up your name fruitlessly. Now, undesirables can find you and try to friend you, though the information they see on your profile will depend on how much you have shared.

As Facebook is a for-profit ad-backed company whose revenue growth depends on its users sharing as much data as possible with one another, the company's main motivation is to eradicate user privacy over time. The removal of this search setting goes hand-in-hand with the global roll out of Graph Search, which makes it more complicated than ever before for a user to keep their interactions on the network hidden from the Eye-of-Sauron-gaze of Zuckerberg & Co.

Toward the bottom of its blog post, the social network recommends that privacy-conscious users "share each post with the people you want to be able to see it," and that they use a feature named "Activity Log" to alter the privacy settings on things that have already been shared.

It's also possible to plead with "friends and others to remove anything they may have shared about you that you don't want on the site," the company notes – though if they rarely use Facebook we find it hard to see how this could work in a timely manner.

jirit · Oct 11, 2013

Privacy in this day and age is illusionary...

Between the NSA and Facebook, Twitter, Google and others, there is very little that can be called private.

JohnMcM · Oct 11, 2013

JohnnieWalker said:
How times change...isn't progress wonderful:

http://www.caminodesantiago.me/comm...-to-live-up-to-expectations.14105/#post-95887

In May 2012: Ivar wrote: I see that I need to add a "Like" button to the forum

On May 31 2012 Falcon said:

"Please don't!!!!! This is one of the last refuges from Facebook! "Like" is passionless; pap for the teen who has not learned to Love and Hate, or even complete a sentence without putting the qualifying "like" somewhere in it so he makes no commitment to the sentence's content. It would take a nuanced Scale-of-One-to-Ten to give everyone a gradient from which to choose. "Like" gives you the choice between saying nothing and a "5." It is beige; oatmeal without a topping; tepid water; non-alcoholic beer; decaf coffee. Please, please, please save us from Zuckerberg!"

falcon269, May 31, 2012

Go on Falcon...keep hitting that Like button!

I want a like from Falcon too.
Go on!
Can I have one,,,,,,,,,,,,,can I,,,,,,,,,,,,,can I have a like from Falcon?
Oh! Go on, pleeeeeeeeease can I have one.
Can I?
Can I?
I won't ask again.
I'll be good, I promise.
Can I have one?
Can I?
Can I?

vicrev · Oct 12, 2013

Crikey JohnMcM,thats the most pathetic example of grovelling I have ever seen,hope the Moderaters press the delete button !!!...........Vicrev

Kiwi-family · Oct 12, 2013

Falcon's post was the first one I have ever printed off this forum and shared with the family. My hubby thought it was very funny, the teens not so much;-) They can't believe there is someone else in the world other than their mother who objects to people using "like" in every sentence when they are not discussing how they feel about something! Thanks Falcon!

JohnnieWalker · Oct 12, 2013

Kiwi-family said:
Falcon's post was the first one I have ever printed off this forum and shared with the family. My hubby thought it was very funny, the teens not so much;-) They can't believe there is someone else in the world other than their mother who objects to people using "like" in every sentence when they are not discussing how they feel about something! Thanks Falcon!

Don't encourage him please!

vicrev · Oct 12, 2013

I am getting a vision of this...." Falcon"....as someone mysterious,awe inspiring,somewhat a sage,something like the Phantom in comic books of old,but,I have an imagination that sometimes runs riot,so please ignore this post............no malice,disrespect,applied or intended.......go Falc!!..................Vicrev

Deleted member 3000 · Oct 12, 2013

I am down to a very relaxed shuffle in life and on the camino. I keep count, and I have passed only eight pilgrims who were walking, and that is over thousands of kilometers on lots of routes. I suppose I cannot claim to be the slowest pilgrim out there if there are eight who are slower, but you won't catch me being Batman, though you probably will catch me (unless you are one of the eight). Having low expectations of myself has been the best lesson I brought back from my pilgrimages. I think it is part of forgiving oneself.

vicrev · Oct 12, 2013

All said in jest Falc..I now know better..............Vicrev

SYates · Oct 12, 2013

jirit said:
Privacy in this day and age is illusionary...

Between the NSA and Facebook, Twitter, Google and others, there is very little that can be called private.

Sadly too true, the best rule I ever heard of regarding internet privacy was:

If you don't everybody to know / see this >>> don't post it online!

SY

Deleted member 3000 · Oct 12, 2013

If you don't everybody to know / see this >>> don't post it online!

When you click "Like" on any internet site, Facebook collects the data, and adds it to its database. At the moment, it seems to be just for targeted advertising and marketing, but they can/do capture computer IP address, location, and perhaps cookie information from your computer, which will include all the sites that are still in your history.

So you give up a lot of privacy to Like something.

jirit · Oct 12, 2013

falcon269 said:
When you click "Like" on any internet site, Facebook collects the data, and adds it to its database. At the moment, it seems to be just for targeted advertising and marketing, but they can/do capture computer IP address, location, and perhaps cookie information from your computer, which will include all the sites that are still in your history.

So you give up a lot of privacy to Like something.

I routinely go on to Facebook and cherry pick and delete old posts. I even go and "unlike" previous likes.

Love to screw up their algos - I am sure Mark is a little pissed off with me.

And I am sure the NSA has me marked as a social media terr****t!

Kiwi-family · Oct 13, 2013

falcon269 said:
When you click "Like" on any internet site, Facebook collects the data, and adds it to its database. At the moment, it seems to be just for targeted advertising and marketing, but they can/do capture computer IP address, location, and perhaps cookie information from your computer, which will include all the sites that are still in your history.

So you give up a lot of privacy to Like something.

So maybe, just maybe, liking is more than beige or sugarless oatmeal;-)

Deleted member 3000 · Oct 13, 2013

Another thread jokingly asks if Likes can be traded for trips to Disneyland or free McDonalds burgers. Well, yes, sort of. Click Like on sites tied to those things, and you will start getting ads on your browser to sell related items to you. You could very well get an offer for a discounted purchase of a Mickey Mouse hat (or some such). Zuckerberg misses no opportunity to profit from your clicks!

vicrev · Oct 13, 2013

Noooooo...............

......Zuckerberg again,I'm not going to ask,who, or what, he or she is..............Vicrev

Wanderer64 · Oct 13, 2013

Vicrev, there's this really useful Internet search engine, I believe it's called Google. Apparently, if you enter a keyword, such as "Zuckerberg," you get lots of results. Just a thought.

vicrev · Oct 13, 2013

Thanks Wanderer,wonderful isn't it, this google thing , I put in Zuckerberg & he isn't a sausage maker,he is a computer whizz (bet you didn't know that,otherwise you would have said, wouldn't you ? ) I am now going to put my name in & see what it comes up with ..mmmmmm... maybe not..............once again thanks for the tip.........Vicrev.......

vicrev · Oct 13, 2013

Tried it Falc, no Mickey hat , I think someones having you on.................Vicrev

SYates · Oct 14, 2013

Wanderer64 said:
Vicrev, there's this really useful Internet search engine, I believe it's called Google. Apparently, if you enter a keyword, such as "Zuckerberg," you get lots of results. Just a thought.

Or you can use LMGTFY ;-) SY

Deleted member 3000 · Oct 14, 2013

Now Facebook, NSA, and the Mossad can all mine the data you leave behind! I love how they will be "using data more efficiently." My bet is that Wall Street reads that as "making big bucks."

Facebook takes first step into Israel with Onavo purchase
Facebook acquires a Tel Aviv startup specialising in data compression and mobile analytics – and gets first Isreali office

Facebook has acquired Onavo, a 40-person strong Israeli startup focused on mobile application intelligence, data and compression.

Facebook will acquire the Tel Aviv-based company’s technology, personnel and office, which will give Facebook its first Israeli headquarters.

Founded in 2010, Onavo developed apps and services in a number of mobile-centric areas, including mobile app analytics and security.

Onavo specialises in mobile data compression with applications that attempt to extend limited mobile data allowances on mobile phone and broadband contracts.

The company complements the goals of the Mark Zuckerberg-led Internet.org – an effort to bring connectivity to the billions of people across the globe who currently do not have access to the internet.

“We’ve built world-class products and a remarkably talented team which has pioneered important breakthroughs in data compression technology and mobile analytics,” said Guy Rosen, Onavo’s co-founder and chief executive in a blog post. "[We] hope to play a critical role in reaching one of internet.org’s most significant goals – using data more efficiently, so that more people around the world can connect and share.”

Wanderer64 · Oct 14, 2013

George Orwell is shaking his head in his grave, muttering, "I told ya so."

vicrev · Oct 14, 2013

Would have thought George would be nodding his head & yelling, "Go for it".................

jirit · Oct 14, 2013

SYates said:
Or you can use LMGTFY ;-) SY

That is cool and a bit scary

stevenjarvis · Oct 14, 2013

SYates said:
Or you can use LMGTFY ;-) SY

oh wow .... hooked ! playing right into their hands too.

Deleted member 3000 · Oct 15, 2013

Both Zuckerberg and the NSA like your Likes!

The Washington Post reported late Monday that the spy agency intercepts hundreds of thousands of email address books every day from private accounts on Yahoo, Gmail, Facebook and Hotmail that move though global data links. The NSA also collects about a half million buddy lists from live chat services and email accounts.

Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/nsa-gat...ging-accounts-reports-1.1497112#ixzz2hmldh5kx

vicrev · Oct 15, 2013

Crikey Falc,I'm not worried...I don't think they would be very interested in what Iv'e got to say,nobody else is.......would I make a good politician ?...........be nice.......Vicrev

Deleted member 3000 · Oct 17, 2013

Facebook has changed its users' privacy settings yet again, and if you have teenage children who use the social network, it might be time to sit them down for a little chat. Beginning on Wednesday, Facebook users aged 13 to 17 have the option to set the audience of their posts to "Public," meaning anyone can see them.

Remind them that everything they post is permanent, it is collected by Facebook, it is intercepted by the NSA, and employers now extensively mine data on prospective employees. What they do at thirteen will still be there when they graduate from college.

Deleted member 3000 · Oct 21, 2013

By Jessica Guynn
October 20, 2013, 5:00 a.m.

SAN FRANCISCO — Candice Kilpatrick couldn't help but laugh when she came across a novelty item on Amazon.com: a latex horse's head with a bushy mane.

Knowing her friends would get a kick out of the mask too, she shared the link on Facebook.

Soon her friends began seeing an update from Kilpatrick on their Facebook pages that appeared as if Kilpatrick was encouraging them to buy the mask: "Good news everyone. These are 40% off today."

But Kilpatrick had not posted it. Facebook had turned the link into a personal endorsement called a "sponsored story" paid for by Amazon.

"I was at the top of all of my 900-plus friends' Facebook feeds for several weeks promoting this horse mask," said Kilpatrick, a digital strategist from New York. "I am not comfortable with it."

Like it or not, Kilpatrick and her friends will have to get used to it.

Any time someone "likes" or links to a product on Facebook, there's a chance Facebook will put that person's name and face in an ad endorsing the product.

More of these ads are flooding the Web as companies look to exploit what has long been so effective in the offline world: a personal recommendation from a friend.

Already when users click Google's "+1" button, that endorsement can appear in an ad.

Google has announced that it also plans to expand the program next month and turn reviews, ratings and comments from users ages 18 and older into endorsements.

So if a user gives a Maroon 5 song five stars in the Google Play store or comments on the crunchy crust at that new pizza joint on Google+, the glowing review may find its way into an ad that the user's friends see across the Web.

It's part of the uneasy deal that consumers strike with social networks. In return for a free service, Facebook, Google and other companies collect reams of data from users for targeted advertising.

Social endorsement ads are one way these companies are boosting sales.

"What companies like Facebook and Google recognize is that the power of the personal recommendation is really huge," EMarketer analyst Debra Aho Williamson said.

Web companies say the ads are more relevant and less annoying than some other more traditional forms of online advertising such as banner ads.

A survey conducted earlier this year by Nielsen found that 84% of Internet users around the world trust recommendations from people they know.

After seeing a friend "like" a product on social media, 29% of U.S. Internet users check out the product, 14% visit the product's website, 11% visit the product's social media page and 5% "like" the product, according to research from Adobe Systems.

But many advertisers aren't completely sold on these endorsement ads — and with good reason, says Woodrow Hartzog, a professor at Samford University's Cumberland School of Law in Birmingham, Ala.

Too often a "like" or a "+1" is taken out of context. People "like" or "+1" products for different reasons. Many people do so to enter contests or get a coupon or other goodies.

"That action doesn't necessarily mean 'I approve this product,'" Hartzog said. "It can mean a lot of different things."

jirit · Oct 21, 2013

Forget about Facebook or even the NSA.

Zuckerberg be damned - I have discovered something even better than Facebook.

A like from falcon269 is a like no other - something to hold on and cherish!

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