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Any lodging would be fine. I just don't want to have to walk 35k in some rough weather.Do you require an albergue, or will any lodging do?
I did this camino last September. I may be wrong, but I don't think you will find a bed every 15-20 k. It seems to me there will be 7-10 stages which would need to be longer, or you would need transportation.
I'm considering walking from Lisbon to Santiago around April 15th. I am a 15 to 20 K per day pilgrim. Is it possible to do this walk without getting off the Camino and have a bed each night?
Also considering Madrid to Santiago?
Thanks
You could skip the nasty part before Vila Franca de Xira by taking the train to Azambuja and take the bus out of Tomar for about 10 kms. Between Tomar and Alvaizére is nothing to stay.I plan to walk from Lisbon Sept/Oct 2017 and here is my break down. There is one segment from Tomar to Alvaiázere that I am unsure where I can stop somewhere in between. Hopefully someone who have walked the route could suggest a stop in between.
Lisbon – Alpriate 21
Alpriate – Vila Franca de Xira 16
Vila Franca – Azambuja 19
Azambuja - Porto de Mugo 12
Porto de Mugo - Santarem 16
Santarém – Azinhaga 24
Azinhaga - Atalaia 16
Atalaia - Tomar 21
Tomar – Alvaiázere 31
Alvaiázere - Ansiao 15
Ansiao - Rabacal 17
Rabaçal – Conímbriga/Condexia-a-Nova 11
Conimbriga/Condexia-a-Nova – Coimbra 20
Coimbra – Mealhada 23
Mealhada – Águeda 26
Águeda – Albergaria-a-Velha 17
Albergaria-a-Velha - Oliveira de Azemeis 16
Oliveira de Azemei - Lourosa 21
Loursoa - Porto 24
Thank youAny lodging would be fine. I just don't want to have to walk 35k in some rough weather.
Do you require an albergue, or will any lodging do?
I did this camino last September. I may be wrong, but I don't think you will find a bed every 15-20 k. It seems to me there will be 7-10 stages which would need to be longer, or you would need transportation.
Thanks for the kind offer. Not sure if I want to wait four days in Lisbon but I will let you know.Hello. I arrive in Lisbon on 19 April and set off the next day if you would like to be accompanied at the start. The weather could be mixed but there are far fewer walkers on this section. The new edition of John Brierleys guide has just been published by the way and there us the 2 part CSJ downliadable guide from Laurie Reynolds and Johnnie Walker.
Thanks for the update on Alpriate and the additional resources.Have you seen the forum resource entitled ¨Short Stages from Lisbon?¨ It was written a few years ago, but has some good suggestions. https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/resources/short-stages-from-lisbon-to-porto.133/. And as filly notes, we have two guides in the resources section, one from Lisbon'Porto and the other from Porto-Santiago.
The one thing that the short stages document doesn´t mention is the recent opening of the Alpriate albergue, about 20 from the Lisbon cathedral. YOu can find out more information by searching here on the forum using just the word Alpriate as the search term.
Good luck with this and if you have any specific questions on a particular stage, just let us know. There's a very devoted group of forum members who have walked from Lisbon and are happy to help. Bom caminho, Laurie
Wonderful info Lydia. Thank you. It's looking more appealing with the shorter distances. On the Frances, I enjoyed walking alone during the day and socializing in the evenings. I'm mindful that there will be much less pilgrims and I am hoping for some fellowship.I plan to walk from Lisbon Sept/Oct 2017 and here is my break down. There is one segment from Tomar to Alvaiázere that I am unsure where I can stop somewhere in between. Hopefully someone who have walked the route could suggest a stop in between.
Lisbon – Alpriate 21
Alpriate – Vila Franca de Xira 16
Vila Franca – Azambuja 19
Azambuja - Porto de Mugo 12
Porto de Mugo - Santarem 16
Santarém – Azinhaga 24
Azinhaga - Atalaia 16
Atalaia - Tomar 21
Tomar – Alvaiázere 31
Alvaiázere - Ansiao 15
Ansiao - Rabacal 17
Rabaçal – Conímbriga/Condexia-a-Nova 11
Conimbriga/Condexia-a-Nova – Coimbra 20
Coimbra – Mealhada 23
Mealhada – Águeda 26
Águeda – Albergaria-a-Velha 17
Albergaria-a-Velha - Oliveira de Azemeis 16
Oliveira de Azemei - Lourosa 21
Loursoa - Porto 24
Great. Thanks Albertino.You could skip the nasty part before Vila Franca de Xira by taking the train to Azambuja and take the bus out of Tomar for about 10 kms. Between Tomar and Alvaizére is nothing to stay.
After Oliveira de Azemeís is an opportunity to sleep in São João da Madeira which makes your next stage to Porto shorter by staying in Grijo in the albergue
Hi, Lydia,I plan to walk from Lisbon Sept/Oct 2017 and here is my break down. There is one segment from Tomar to Alvaiázere that I am unsure where I can stop somewhere in between. Hopefully someone who have walked the route could suggest a stop in between.
Lisbon – Alpriate 21
Alpriate – Vila Franca de Xira 16
Vila Franca – Azambuja 19
Azambuja - Porto de Mugo 12
Porto de Mugo - Santarem 16
Santarém – Azinhaga 24
Azinhaga - Atalaia 16
Atalaia - Tomar 21
Tomar – Alvaiázere 31
Alvaiázere - Ansiao 15
Ansiao - Rabacal 17
Rabaçal – Conímbriga/Condexia-a-Nova 11
Conimbriga/Condexia-a-Nova – Coimbra 20
Coimbra – Mealhada 23
Mealhada – Águeda 26
Águeda – Albergaria-a-Velha 17
Albergaria-a-Velha - Oliveira de Azemeis 16
Oliveira de Azemei - Lourosa 21
Loursoa - Porto 24
Thanks Laurie.Have you seen the forum resource entitled ¨Short Stages from Lisbon?¨ It was written a few years ago, but has some good suggestions. https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/resources/short-stages-from-lisbon-to-porto.133/. And as filly notes, we have two guides in the resources section, one from Lisbon'Porto and the other from Porto-Santiago.
The one thing that the short stages document doesn´t mention is the recent opening of the Alpriate albergue, about 20 from the Lisbon cathedral. YOu can find out more information by searching here on the forum using just the word Alpriate as the search term.
Good luck with this and if you have any specific questions on a particular stage, just let us know. There's a very devoted group of forum members who have walked from Lisbon and are happy to help. Bom caminho, Laurie
There is one segment from Tomar to Alvaiázere that I am unsure where I can stop somewhere in between. Hopefully someone who have walked the route could suggest a stop in between.
Hi LydiaI plan to walk from Lisbon Sept/Oct 2017 and here is my break down. There is one segment from Tomar to Alvaiázere that I am unsure where I can stop somewhere in between. Hopefully someone who have walked the route could suggest a stop in between.
Lisbon – Alpriate 21
Alpriate – Vila Franca de Xira 16
Vila Franca – Azambuja 19
Azambuja - Porto de Mugo 12
Porto de Mugo - Santarem 16
Santarém – Azinhaga 24
Azinhaga - Atalaia 16
Atalaia - Tomar 21
Tomar – Alvaiázere 31
Alvaiázere - Ansiao 15
Ansiao - Rabacal 17
Rabaçal – Conímbriga/Condexia-a-Nova 11
Conimbriga/Condexia-a-Nova – Coimbra 20
Coimbra – Mealhada 23
Mealhada – Águeda 26
Águeda – Albergaria-a-Velha 17
Albergaria-a-Velha - Oliveira de Azemeis 16
Oliveira de Azemei - Lourosa 21
Loursoa - Porto 24
As I recall, the only options in Oliveira are the big hotel Dighton
I am sorry to say but again this entire post is in the wrong subforum.You could skip the nasty part before Vila Franca de Xira by taking the train to Azambuja and take the bus out of Tomar for about 10 kms. Between Tomar and Alvaizére is nothing to stay.
After Oliveira de Azemeís is an opportunity to sleep in São João da Madeira which makes your next stage to Porto shorter by staying in Grijo in the albergue
ayyyy Albertinho, I usually catch this but missed it this time. Ivar has moved the CPI subforum further down the list, and that has helped a fair amount, but it still happens. One alternative would be to have a special sub-forum for "central route" but I think that would then cause confusion too. Thanks for paying more attention than I did.I am sorry to say but again this entire post is in the wrong subforum.
Again as quoted many times before this INTERIOR route is at the east side of Portugal, very remote -few pilgrims walk the INTERIOR. IT never starts in Lisbon nor in Porto but close by Coimbra in the center of Portugal and leads via Viseu ,Lamego and Chaves to Ourense at t he Via da Plate route.
This post is about the CENTRAL ROUTE . I do not know how to prevent this. Any moderator an idea ?
It happened to me too Laurieayyyy Albertinho, I usually catch this but missed it this time. Ivar has moved the CPI subforum further down the list, and that has helped a fair amount, but it still happens. One alternative would be to have a special sub-forum for "central route" but I think that would then cause confusion too. Thanks for paying more attention than I did.
I walked this in September 2016 and also planned for shorter days and specifically a stop in Valada or Port de Muge. However I did not make a reservation and as the villages are small, a local festival had all beds booked. I, and several other pilgrims found a bed with Paula Castro 939997657, directly adjacent the camino near Valada. She is a generous woman and made three trips down the camino to fetch us and then provide rooms and meals. Even so, her home filled to the brim. I suggest reservations. There aren't many pilgrims but there aren't many beds either. Helen at CR Casa de Azzancha (Brierly 2016) also provided service, fetching us next day as well. Her CR was lovely. We were all delighted with these generous offers of a lift and accommodation. We were fresh on the road and the heat and walking surfaces were challenging.I'm considering walking from Lisbon to Santiago around April 15th. I am a 15 to 20 K per day pilgrim. Is it possible to do this walk without getting off the Camino and have a bed each night?
Also considering Madrid to Santiago?
Thanks
Great info. Thank you Magpye.I walked this in September 2016 and also planned for shorter days and specifically a stop in Valada or Port de Muge. However I did not make a reservation and as the villages are small, a local festival had all beds booked. I, and several other pilgrims found a bed with Paula Castro 939997657, directly adjacent the camino near Valada. She is a generous woman and made three trips down the camino to fetch us and then provide rooms and meals. Even so, her home filled to the brim. I suggest reservations. There aren't many pilgrims but there aren't many beds either. Helen at CR Casa de Azzancha (Brierly 2016) also provided service, fetching us next day as well. Her CR was lovely. We were all delighted with these generous offers of a lift and accommodation. We were fresh on the road and the heat and walking surfaces were challenging.
Buen camino!
Hi filly. I just received my 8th Edition as well from Ivar. I live in Florida and received it within a week. Thanks for sharing the useful information.Hurrah! Just received the newly published, revised 8th edition, A Pilgrims Guide to the Camino Portugues by John Brierley (bought on wordery.com - free worldwide shipping!)
The maps show the different caminos clearly. Fatima does NOT figure as a camino but does appear on the map.
Interestingly whilst hiking in Tasmania two weeks ago, I met someone living in Estoril, and he recommended a coastal variant from there to Coimbra: not the Camino but tempting...,
Thank you Magpie!!! Hope you are having a good Camino and hope to welcome you back in our small Casa de Azzancha one day again in the future! All the best!I walked this in September 2016 and also planned for shorter days and specifically a stop in Valada or Port de Muge. However I did not make a reservation and as the villages are small, a local festival had all beds booked. I, and several other pilgrims found a bed with Paula Castro 939997657, directly adjacent the camino near Valada. She is a generous woman and made three trips down the camino to fetch us and then provide rooms and meals. Even so, her home filled to the brim. I suggest reservations. There aren't many pilgrims but there aren't many beds either. Helen at CR Casa de Azzancha (Brierly 2016) also provided service, fetching us next day as well. Her CR was lovely. We were all delighted with these generous offers of a lift and accommodation. We were fresh on the road and the heat and walking surfaces were challenging.
Buen camino!
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