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Started out from Ponferrada today in nice but a bit chilly weather. Seeing that it was hotter at home in the north of Norway,was a bit surprising.
The markings were good along the way.
In Toral de Merayo the only bar open at 9.30 was the Bar Nogal.
The only place I wondered about the way today was out of TdM. Reading the guide I was waiting for a sharp climb shortly thereafter, but it took some time and the climb was not sharp.
Out of Villalibre when you cross the N536 beforePrisranza, at the Centro Social, I guess, was a sign at the camino, saying Albergue the Villalibre, and a number to call
In Priaranza del Bierzo the camino took off from the N-536 and went down through town. No open bar. The camino joined the highway again just before the Mirador de Santallo. Since there was a pavement all along the road, I guess that would have been shorter and easier, at least in muddy weather.
InSantalla I took the hihgway looking for a bar. Saw nothing before friendly bar Ronda. When leaving the bar senora showed me where to go to get to the camino. The camino out of town was on a dustroad and later on path to the point where you crossed the highway to start the climb to Villavieja. Before the Camino went up on a narrow path
to the road, there were arrows to Albergue the Villavieja. Here as well I guess it would have been easier and vleaner stay on the pavement on the side of the mainroad.
Anyway I decided to take the camino up to Villavieja. Guess if I had not, I might have regretted that. I would like to say: Do not in bad weather.
The weather today was dry and not very hot, so I was not exhausted.
In Villavieja I did not see the albergue along the camino, perhaps it was higher up and I missed the sign. I wouldn’t have stayed ther anyway and was more concerned about the villagr dogs. Heard some nasty barking and passed a big dog which did not bother about me, so I was a bit disappointed having bought from US and carried a dog dazzler too scare the dogs away.
Happy to reach the castillo before it closed at 2pm. Free for peregrinos, even got a small souvenir. The girl in charge told me there had been 3 peregrinos ahead of me and I even met one of them leaving when I arrived.
Then the toad down too Borrenes staying in the Casa Rural Cornatel, clean but a bit overprised. Evening meal reminded me about how fed up of caminomeals you might be after some weeks on the camino, but this was my first day. Even the tinto was not good. Anyway I am glad I did not have to take the next climb to day.
Tomorrow a short day Puente Domingo Florez.
Hola ranthrThere are a lot of wrong spelling here, I’m not good at writing a lot on the phone.
Laurie, the markings were very good, freshpainted arrows and new stones with shells. I think it is the alternativ described in your guide. I think the wisepilgrim route was not this one. Tried to check where I was on the map, but I was not on the red line.Thanks, Ranthr, that is a major change. It sounds like the bracketed discussion in our guide that talks about an alternative "bypass" has become the main route. It's on pps. 15-16 in our guide but I can't figure out how to paste it in here.
So I am assuming that anyone who spends the night in Barco just has to get down to the river walk to carry on? The former "main route" is now just for those who are going up to the albergue at Xagoaza?
Did you find that it was clearly marked all the way to Arcos?
It sounds like you may be heading back to A Rúa for the night and then get the train tomorrow to walk Montefurado to A Quiroga?
Sorry to bombard you with questions! Buen camino, Laurie
So I did! But was stopped.Great to read your posts, ranthr. Laurie (peregrina2000), whom I had the pleasure of meeting for the first time in Salamanca last Monday, described me in her blog as a 'fan of the Invierno'! It's not the only Camino I've walked, but I certainly love it.
I honestly don't see what the problem with walking out of O Barco is. Wherever you've stayed in town (Pensión do Lar, Mayo or La Gran Tortuga) you just need to walk west on the Avenida Conde de Fenosa, which then becomes the Avenida Galicia, until you reach the roundabout at the end. It's then signposted very clearly.
Stopped? who stopped you??????So I did! But was stopped.
I told peregrina2000 about this a couple of years ago. Been there twice. Nice!Nice recreation area along the riverside near poliodeportivo a 5 minutes walk from Renfe ARúa-Petin.
Sunday and Pulpo outside several bars.
Great to read your posts, ranthr. Laurie (peregrina2000), whom I had the pleasure of meeting for the first time in Salamanca last Monday, described me in her blog as a 'fan of the Invierno'! It's not the only Camino I've walked, but I certainly love it.
I honestly don't see what the problem with walking out of O Barco is. Wherever you've stayed in town (Pensión do Lar, Mayo or La Gran Tortuga) you just need to walk west on the Avenida Conde de Fenosa, which then becomes the Avenida Galicia, until you reach the roundabout at the end. It's then signposted very clearly.
Nice recreation area along the riverside near poliodeportivo a 5 minutes walk from Renfe ARúa-Petin.
Sunday and Pulpo outside several bars.
I told peregrina2000 about this a couple of years ago. Been there twice. Nice!
After having walked the LU 933 for a couple of km I put away my poles and prepared for a nice slowly walk downhill on the quiet road to Bendilló.
Then suddenly the camino took off from the road and added a climb up, then down through the wood on a narrow overgrowed path, over an arroyo on stones, up the hill again and then down to the road again at the sideway to Bendilló. I could most of the time see the road down there somewhere.
I do not know if this direction is new since
@peregrina2000 went there?
What we are talking about in A Rua is a nice park along the Sil near the Poliodeportivo, nice place to spend some free time in the afternoon to relax. It is not along the camino. I stayed at H Niza and found this when I walked a bit around. You have to walk past Renfe on a street following RR and cross under track a bit ahead.Well, I certainly have messed up because I have no idea what you two are talking about. Can you describe this in more detail? A riverside walk in A Rua? I am pretty sure this didn-t make it into last year's version, did it charrito?
Yes, its up, but first the road goes slightly down before the takeoff up to Bendilló. while the marked camino comes to the takeoff after a couple of climbs up and down higher than the road. I only met one car along the road so traffic is not dangerous. In rainy weather I would take the road.I haven't been on the Invierno for three years now, so my memory is fading. This is another area where I am going to need help when I go to edit the guide. Is Bendillo the little town with the small hermita on the right as you walk up into town? I'm thinking that can't be right since ranthr is talking about walking down into Bendillo. I admit I am confused, but we will figure this out, we've figured out more confusing things for past editions!
Please give Ian and Irene my best. I love that place, and oh the views! Glad to hear you are back on the road. Seems like northern Spain is getting even more rain -- peregrinos on the Primitivo are drenched!Day 7: Monforte de Lemos- San-Esteban
Hard to start again after a break and the weather was not promising, rain and thunder like it was yesterday.
I therefore decided to follow the road, paths surely very wet and muddy after heavy rain.
So I do not have much information to give. There were some yellow arrows here and there on the roads too, even if the camino took off.
Easy going on these roads, I did not meet many cars either. There were a lot of barking but no dogs attacked me, so I do not think dogs is a bigger problem here than in your own neighbourhood.
On the hill down to Diomondi a peregrino stopped his bike to have a chat.
When I had coffee in a panaderia in MdL I saw 2
peregrinos walking past, so there are a few of us.
Myself I am more of a tourist than a peregrina, today I was picked up by Ian at Diomondi church and is staying in their charming hotel.
For those who walk the Invierno to get a Compostela two stamps a day is really a problem. There is nowhere to get a stamp. Even the museum in the cloister in Monforte had not a stamp.
I usually no longer queue up for a compostela anymore, but I perhaps do this time to tell the pilgrimoffice that this is a problem,at least if you go short stages.
I will.Please give Ian and Irene my best. I love that place, and oh the views! Glad to hear you are back on the road. Seems like northern Spain is getting even more rain -- peregrinos on the Primitivo are drenched!
Thanks, only an iphone. When I try to attach photos I often get the message that some of them are too big often the most colorful. I really don’t know anything about this field.Hi Ranthr, lovely high quality photos.
What are you taking them with please?
Met the 4 Spanish men at breakfast at 7 today in Carpinteiras. Asked them if they had walked up the ermita, but they said they did not because of the fog, made me rise a bit, angry with myself for not doing it. But they walked the monte way.Hi there @ranthr
Lovely looking at your pics. I see you also encountered the foggy/misty walk up to Monte de Faro. It’s strange to realise that I’m wishing myself back when reading your walk along the trail!!
I think the other 4 peregrinas possibly turned right at the intersection (just after the coffee stop) instead of walking ‘up’ to Monte de Faro. I think it would have been an alternative way.
Buen Camino
Annie
I guess it was closed because it was Sunday. They were sorry to cancel my booking, guess they didn’t check the weekday when they confirmed my booking."Perhaps they show up dinnertime at Carpinteiras since the O Guerra is closed " Is O'guerra closed??? Is it closed every day, or just on Sundays? I have a booking there for the day after Santo Estevo, bummer!
I walked from Alicante last year on the Sureste and the Invierno. Excluding the short section of the Frances that I had to walk, I only saw about 7 other peregrinos!Never seen so much peregrinos in a queue to get a compostela or to get into the cathedral.
All of those pilgrims must have come as a shock.Never seen so much peregrinos in a queue to get a compostela or to get into the cathedral.
I have 3 composteli (sp?) and have never had 2 stamps a day at any time!All of those pilgrims must have come as a shock.
Pleasure to have met you. When you came across the boar, hope you remembered Irene's advice never get between the parent and youngsters.
Glad you you made it, did you queue up and get a Compostela? Just wondered if the two a day stamp rule applies to this route.
Thanks for my stay in your home!All of those pilgrims must have come as a shock.
Pleasure to have met you. When you came across the boar, hope you remembered Irene's advice never get between the parent and youngsters.
Glad you you made it, did you queue up and get a Compostela? Just wondered if the two a day stamp rule applies to this route.
Guess it depends on who you meet at the pilgrimsoffice, on my longer caminos nobody asked for two stamps, but I was denied the compostela when I walked from Porto because I had taken a bus a strech from the coast route to the ordinary camino in Portugal.I have 3 composteli (sp?) and have never had 2 stamps a day at any time!
Hey, charrito, I had tried to post our selfie on my blog, but the program wouldn't let me. I tried it again when I got home and it is now there. It was great meeting you!
It sounds to me like @ranthr found that the roundabout way has been "demoted" and the river walk "promoted" as the official way out of Barco. The guide talks about the river walk exit from town but it was all kind of unclear to me. But it sounds like we need to straighten things out, because I agree that the roundabout way is not the most direct way to Arcos. At least that's what I think if my memory is correct.
That was my impression in 2014 but after the little wooden bridge the arrows and scallop shells were no longer there...So I am assuming that anyone who spends the night in Barco just has to get down to the river walk to carry on? The former "main route" is now just for those who are going up to the albergue at Xagoaza?
Bendillo is like the highest point of zje day I think. Camino goes (went in 2014) through the village and there is an old lavadora at the end of it. After lavadora and sweet water you have to retrace like 10 meters back to the Camino and then you are descending.I haven't been on the Invierno for three years now, so my memory is fading. This is another area where I am going to need help when I go to edit the guide. Is Bendillo the little town with the small hermita on the right as you walk up into town? I'm thinking that can't be right since ranthr is talking about walking down into Bendillo. I admit I am confused, but we will figure this out, we've figured out more confusing things for past editions!
Hi, @ranthr ,...
For those who walk the Invierno to get a Compostela two stamps a day is really a problem. There is nowhere to get a stamp. Even the museum in the cloister in Monforte had not a stamp.
I usually no longer queue up for a compostela anymore, but I perhaps do this time to tell the pilgrimoffice that this is a problem,at least if you go short stages.
Well, I knew it. @LTfit was in Madrid on the same day as was I and you were leaving. Told you...
After som rainy days in Santiago I am now in Madrid heading home from frio in Spain to calor in Norway.
Now there were lots of arrows after the little bridge at the end of riverpromenade. You passed what to me seemed to be some sort of camplivingarea, then walked along the river up to Arcos.That was my impression in 2014 but after the little wooden bridge the arrows and scallop shells were no longer there...
Anyway, there was some confusion about the Camino after O Barco as I remember. I did find my way but I'm almost sure it wasn't all on the "true" Camino
If I ever get as far as the Invierno this year, I promise I will go for a stroll in O Barco to check it out! :OD
I had problems with leaving O Barco too, last time.
/BP
Probably not important but anyway... The O Guerra was closed on June 29 for descanso familiar, "family vacation". The note on the door said that there was no given date that they could tell they would open again, but that they would "let us know" when that happens. Good for business in Carpinteiro hostal, I guess, where 9 pilgrims lodged when I was there a few weeks ago... Although, according to the Invierno Forum Guide, the polideportivo is also available."Perhaps they show up dinnertime at Carpinteiras since the O Guerra is closed " Is O'guerra closed??? Is it closed every day, or just on Sundays? I have a booking there for the day after Santo Estevo, bummer!
Started out from Ponferrada today in nice but a bit chilly weather. Seeing that it was hotter at home in the north of Norway,was a bit surprising.
The markings were good along the way.
In Toral de Merayo the only bar open at 9.30 was the Bar Nogal.
The only place I wondered about the way today was out of TdM. Reading the guide I was waiting for a sharp climb shortly thereafter, but it took some time and the climb was not sharp.
Out of Villalibre when you cross the N536 beforePrisranza, at the Centro Social, I guess, was a sign at the camino, saying Albergue the Villalibre, and a number to call
In Priaranza del Bierzo the camino took off from the N-536 and went down through town. No open bar. The camino joined the highway again just before the Mirador de Santallo. Since there was a pavement all along the road, I guess that would have been shorter and easier, at least in muddy weather.
InSantalla I took the hihgway looking for a bar. Saw nothing before friendly bar Ronda. When leaving the bar senora showed me where to go to get to the camino. The camino out of town was on a dustroad and later on path to the point where you crossed the highway to start the climb to Villavieja. Before the Camino went up on a narrow path
to the road, there were arrows to Albergue the Villavieja. Here as well I guess it would have been easier and vleaner stay on the pavement on the side of the mainroad.
Anyway I decided to take the camino up to Villavieja. Guess if I had not, I might have regretted that. I would like to say: Do not in bad weather.
The weather today was dry and not very hot, so I was not exhausted.
In Villavieja I did not see the albergue along the camino, perhaps it was higher up and I missed the sign. I wouldn’t have stayed ther anyway and was more concerned about the villagr dogs. Heard some nasty barking and passed a big dog which did not bother about me, so I was a bit disappointed having bought from US and carried a dog dazzler too scare the dogs away.
Happy to reach the castillo before it closed at 2pm. Free for peregrinos, even got a small souvenir. The girl in charge told me there had been 3 peregrinos ahead of me and I even met one of them leaving when I arrived.
Then the toad down too Borrenes staying in the Casa Rural Cornatel, clean but a bit overprised. Evening meal reminded me about how fed up of caminomeals you might be after some weeks on the camino, but this was my first day. Even the tinto was not good. Anyway I am glad I did not have to take the next climb to day.
Tomorrow a short day Puente Domingo Florez.
Wait a minute BP, you can’t leave us hanging. We are still waiting for the rest of the Mozárabe. I am especially interested to hear about your adventure with the river vs. bridge crossing after Yelbes.Thank you for these reports! I have just completed the Invierno, late July, and I am about to start a thread about it, focusing on the Invierno Forum Guide! Now I see you have already covered some of the things I was going to comment about, so it will be easier than I thought.
Thanks for lovely pictures as well. But I cannot post any of mine, they are always too large to upload??? Anyway thanks for telling your journey!!
God tur!
BP
Wait a minute BP, you can’t leave us hanging. We are still waiting for the rest of the Mozárabe. I am especially interested to hear about your adventure with the river vs. bridge crossing after Yelbes.
But your Invierno comments will be very much appreciated for next year’s revisions.
Oh right, Yelbes... You won't believe it...!! :OD
Ha haI am starting to go through this year's Invierno comments to gather info for the guide revision. @Bad Pilgrim, I see you were going to post some comments, that would be great! Of course, the world is still waiting to hear about Yelbes on the Mozarabe.
Will definitely keep a diary when we walk itI'm also going through Oz Annie's report, which may also be helpful
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/start-invierno-6-april-18.53774/
Annette,
If you are in the mood, any notes from the field would be extremely welcome. I will be getting started on the 2019 version as soon as I cull through all of the posts on this forum from 2018, and there are a lot more this year than last year!!!
I am starting to go through this year's Invierno comments to gather info for the guide revision. @Bad Pilgrim, I see you were going to post some comments, that would be great! Of course, the world is still waiting to hear about Yelbes on the Mozarabe.
Hi, @ranthr, trying to piece things together, I am comparing what you wrote with what Bad Pilgrim wrote, and think that I understand this part of the route.In Priaranza del Bierzo the camino took off from the N-536 and went down through town. No open bar. The camino joined the highway again just before the Mirador de Santallo. Since there was a pavement all along the road, I guess that would have been shorter and easier, at least in muddy weather.
I'll tell you all about this once I get round to my latest revisions. Soon, I promise.Hi, @ranthr, trying to piece things together, I am comparing what you wrote with what Bad Pilgrim wrote, and think that I understand this part of the route.
Is it correct to say the following:
In Priaranza del Bierzo, the camino leaves the N-536 and goes through town. Leaving town, there is a turn-off that may be hard to see (one 2018 pilgrim said that a mojón may be hidden behind bushes). The path rejoins the highway before the Mirador de Santallo, a well known scenic overlook.
Thanks!
No rush, Charrito, I know you are out of commission for a while. I am just posting all my questions as I go through the year’s comments. With both you and Kinky offline for a while, things are pretty quiet! Wishing you a speedy recovery.I'll tell you all about this once I get round to my latest revisions. Soon, I promise.
Back to the ophthalmologist at the hospital tomorrow; hopefully, I'll be given the visto bueno (¡nunca mejor dicho!) to get back to normal.No rush, Charrito, I know you are out of commission for a while. I am just posting all my questions as I go through the year’s comments. With both you and Kinky offline for a while, things are pretty quiet! Wishing you a speedy recovery.
Yes Yes Yes,Hi, @ranthr, trying to piece things together, I am comparing what you wrote with what Bad Pilgrim wrote, and think that I understand this part of the route.
Is it correct to say the following:
In Priaranza del Bierzo, the camino leaves the N-536 and goes through town. Leaving town, there is a turn-off that may be hard to see (one 2018 pilgrim said that a mojón may be hidden behind bushes). The path rejoins the highway before the Mirador de Santallo, a well known scenic overlook.
Thanks!
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